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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ecampbell Click here to enlarge
    This is just plain wrong. When trump pulled out of TPP he lost the ability to directly influence Asia trade policies with the US. People a lot smarter than us (Gorman, Cohn, Dimon) just to name a few understand the impact of what Trump is doing better us. Before Cohn resigned he would have spoken to Trump about this. Trump either said it was a negotiating tactic in which case Cohn would have stayed on OR Trump said no this is what I am doing which caused Cohn to leave.

    I do agree the tariffs announced in isolation do nothing but this is not a NAFTA issue it is the potential trade war with other countries that is going to do the damage.

    I am open minded but still have yet to find a creditable business leader who thinks starting a trade war is a good thing.
    TPP is a joke. These trade deals are all about the countries with cheap labor and a crappy qualify of life trying to steal capital from richer countries like the USA. We influence Asian trade policies the same way we always have, with our military presence. Because Canada and Mexico joined it will complicate NAFTA renewal as we don't want TPP products (otherwise known as Chinese products) to flow through Canada and Mexico and get dumped here.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 654 Click here to enlarge
    Good example. 10% tariff means you will suffer. 30% tariff means you will suffer more since you will change the provider and pay 25% more and keep up unsustainable business of which resources should be better allocated elsewhere. I'm a strong believer in market economy and against political interventions such as subsidies or protecting unprofitable business in any way. Any political interventions will harm the invisible hand of the market that drives to the optimal allocation of resources.

    As the jobs gained in steel and aluminum will be 35 000, but the jobs lost in the industries later in the value chain will be 170 000. So, for "having work for people here for them feeling attached to our society" is not achieved by any forms of taxes that will skew the law of comparative advantage.
    Some jobs may be lost if they are cannibalizing off the low tariff situation. For example one CA company is buying cheap steel from Mexico (who probably got it from China), rolling it in to sheets, and reselling it to other CA businesses since it's a little cheaper than bringing USA steel by rail to CA.

    Longer term though the price variances due to the tariff only effects companies importing those materials. The money raised can go towards our national debt. And many companies will choose to use USA based companies instead since it won't cost much more. The risk is other countries tax our products more heavily than they already do but frankly it's time for us to throw our economic weight around more than we do. The USA does not need "dollar stores" on every corner. But China needs our currency for their economy to survive.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    While waiting in line to pickup dinner the place had CNN on, muted. I saw the headline flash across the bottom and then the closed captioning had someone saying "but they didn't consult with any democrats" or some such garbage. I laughed and didn't bother looking back at the TV. They only interviewed 77 witnesses.... #78 would have gotten him.

    I thought the SNL cold open skit was kinda funny too, in case you didn't see it.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    I thought the SNL cold open skit was kinda funny too, in case you didn't see it.

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    Another day, another firing.

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    Hmm, just a coincidence...I think not.

    Same oppo research firm and same law firm used to launder the payments.


    The Barack Obama presidential campaign hired Fusion GPS in 2012 to dig up dirt on Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, according to a book released on Tuesday.

    The Obama campaign hid its payments to Fusion GPS through its law firm, Perkins Coie. The arrangement is similar to the one that the Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee used to pay Fusion for its investigation of then-candidate Donald Trump in 2016.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BlackJetE90OC Click here to enlarge
    Hmm, just a coincidence...I think not.

    Same oppo research firm and same law firm used to launder the payments.
    Are we ever going to them have to pay for it?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BlackJetE90OC Click here to enlarge
    Hmm, just a coincidence...I think not.

    Same oppo research firm and same law firm used to launder the payments.
    Launder payments - I missed this. When did they get charged and convicted?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ecampbell Click here to enlarge
    Launder payments - I missed this. When did they get charged and convicted?
    CLC filed a formal complaint to the FEC that Clinton campaign and DNC violated campaign finance laws by not fully disclosing campaign money was spent on Steele dossier. The money was routed through Perkins Coie law firm and only described as legal services in FEC reports.

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    MSM and FBI scrambling before Horowitz report comes out.

    FBI now recommends firing McCabe before his retirement. McCabe is set to retire Sunday with full benefits.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/14/u...e=sectionfront

    We probably have met the fall guy for the botched Hillary investigation.

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    FBI recommending one of their own not get his benefits? I guess they're pinning it all on him.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    FBI recommending one of their own not get his benefits? I guess they're pinning it all on him.
    Not just some guy either, # 2 at FBI under Comey.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BlackJetE90OC Click here to enlarge
    Not just some guy either, # 2 at FBI under Comey.
    So Comey gets his when?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    So Comey gets his when?
    Hopefully sooner than later. The storms a brewin.

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    Nobody else is concerned about Trump appointing CIA people to key positions?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky2 Click here to enlarge
    Nobody else is concerned about Trump appointing CIA people to key positions?
    Pompeo isn't exactly CIA, he was in the House prior. Member of the Tea Party. His ideals a line basically identical to Trump. T-Rex was for the keeping Iran deal, Pompeo has been opposed to the deal since day 1. I think this is the crux of the situation, Trump wants to move on the Iran deal. Gina Haspel, first women to lead CIA. All you need to know about her is John McCain hates her. Consider that a positive.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BlackJetE90OC Click here to enlarge
    CLC filed a formal complaint to the FEC that Clinton campaign and DNC violated campaign finance laws by not fully disclosing campaign money was spent on Steele dossier. The money was routed through Perkins Coie law firm and only described as legal services in FEC reports.
    So they have gone to court then and been proven guilty or at this point just a complaint.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ecampbell Click here to enlarge
    So they have gone to court then and been proven guilty or at this point just a complaint.
    by that logic trump, putin, etc are innocent of all complaints too since they havent been brought to court and proven guilty/convicted so we should just forget about it Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky2 Click here to enlarge
    Nobody else is concerned about Trump appointing CIA people to key positions?
    this is no different than when obama appointed Leon Panetta(DEM) as Secretary of defense as he was previously CIA director.

    its not really a partisan thing either as bush did it with robert gates (rep) promoting him from CIA director to Secretary of defense

    its pretty standard

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    These guys on both sides all do the same political tricks. Finding dirty ways to manipulate the sheep in to voting for them. Democrats are just mad some 300 pound Russian living in his mothers basement found a way to do it better than they did last go around. And that Trump is immune to their usual dirty tricks.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by gaspam Click here to enlarge
    by that logic trump, putin, etc are innocent of all complaints too since they havent been brought to court and proven guilty/convicted so we should just forget about it Click here to enlarge
    Well yes. international issues are different but I fully agree trump is innocent of the sexual predator charges as he has not gone to court.

    In this country everyone is entitled to their day in court and you are innocent until your proven guilty.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ecampbell Click here to enlarge
    I am talking domestic issues not international as you have to go to the world courts for the later.

    I thought in this country everyone is entitled to their day in court and you are innocent until your proven guilty.
    that's why i put Trump Collusion with russia example in there as well, for the domestic aspect....

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by gaspam Click here to enlarge
    by that logic trump, putin, etc are innocent of all complaints too since they havent been brought to court and proven guilty/convicted so we should just forget about it Click here to enlarge
    Now I do believe trump lies and there is a lot of evidence of that - you just have to look at today where he was 'making up facts' as he didn't know if canada had a surplus or deficit with the US. Trudeau corrected him and said the US has a trade surplus with canada. It is a bit ironic that when the US was running an overall global trade surplus, that coincides with the 08 financial crisis.

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