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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    You can't really compare cars like that. You are running in different conditions. What was the DA when you were running? How much fuel? You run 93 octane, he runs 91.

    See what I mean? You can't use a single run as an example of what the car will do everytime. Yes, your 60-130 is very slightly faster but most of your runs were not that quick so you know yourself there will be variations even run to run.

    Best way to compare is always heads up.
    True. But the times are on the list. Also looking at the graph I have a advantage.So we go by that.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 930chas Click here to enlarge
    Seriously is this guy for real? I assume you all have met him since some of you have raced your cars while he has raced his mouth, but honestly he comes off as a 10 year old girl. This is unbelievable. Can anything be done to get him to shut the $#@! up?????
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JonsC63AMG Click here to enlarge
    True. But the times are on the list. Also looking at the graph I have a advantage.So we go by that.
    Well no, we go by reason and are capable of understanding the factors involved.

    The time is an example of what your car was capable of at a certain period in a certain area. Would you beat that P31 in a heads up race based on it? Not necessarily. Considering I looked over files from multiple runs from both of you, I would say it would be close and could go either way depending on factors like fuel, weight, weather, etc.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Well no, we go by reason and are capable of understanding the factors involved.

    The time is an example of what your car was capable of at a certain period in a certain area. Would you beat that P31 in a heads up race based on it? Not necessarily. Considering I looked over files from multiple runs from both of you, I would say it would be close and could go either way depending on factors like fuel, weight, weather, etc.
    Got it!Click here to enlarge Well unfortunately the west coast will never have records as the east coast guys. Because of the excellent DA.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JonsC63AMG Click here to enlarge
    Got it!Click here to enlarge Well unfortunately the west coast will never have records as the east coast guys. Because of the excellent DA.
    I agree.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    You can't really compare cars like that. You are running in different conditions. What was the DA when you were running? How much fuel? You run 93 octane, he runs 91.

    See what I mean? You can't use a single run as an example of what the car will do everytime. Yes, your 60-130 is very slightly faster but most of your runs were not that quick so you know yourself there will be variations even run to run.

    Best way to compare is always heads up.
    If he ran the day I think he did it was most likely -2000 DA. About 28 degrees. The next day he said he was going to try it again it was even better. 18 degrees at 9am.

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    Easy to find out the da sticker what is the time and day stamp
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Dodger63 Click here to enlarge
    Easy to find out the da sticker what is the time and day stamp
    Are you guys seriously trying to find out his DA for his 60-130 run? lolz

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by propain Click here to enlarge
    If he ran the day I think he did it was most likely -2000 DA. About 28 degrees. The next day he said he was going to try it again it was even better. 18 degrees at 9am.
    Just keep on hating and digging LMAO! I ran when it was 45F on a sat afternoon.
    Im sure Sticky could confirm that on the file.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by I am Jeff Click here to enlarge
    Are you guys seriously trying to find out his DA for his 60-130 run? lolz
    Haters!

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    Click here to enlargethis is so ghey

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by propain Click here to enlarge
    If he ran the day I think he did it was most likely -2000 DA. About 28 degrees. The next day he said he was going to try it again it was even better. 18 degrees at 9am.
    Let me put it this way, the winter weather in Hollywood is nowhere near this good for runs so comparing these runs to P31 runs in the Los Angeles area as absolutes just does not make sense.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by I am Jeff Click here to enlarge
    Are you guys seriously trying to find out his DA for his 60-130 run? lolz
    No, just pointing out weather is a large factor so saying one car is faster than another with cross country 60-130 runs in completely different conditions when they are within tenths of each other is kind of absurd.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JonsC63AMG Click here to enlarge
    Just keep on hating and digging LMAO! I ran when it was 45F on a sat afternoon.
    Im sure Sticky could confirm that on the file.
    Look, it's all good, the point is different conditions produce different results.

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    How this thread is 6 pages going on 7 I have no clue.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    No, just pointing out weather is a large factor so saying one car is faster than another with cross country 60-130 runs in completely different conditions when they are within tenths of each other is kind of absurd.
    Yes the DA is a factor. Also the graph-incline vs decline doesnt count?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JonsC63AMG Click here to enlarge
    Yes the DA is a factor. Also the graph-incline vs decline doesnt count?
    These are all variables, that is the point.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    No, just pointing out weather is a large factor so saying one car is faster than another with cross country 60-130 runs in completely different conditions when they are within tenths of each other is kind of absurd.
    Hundredths....

    Ok, enough of a post count on this one. Lets send it into oblivion where it belongs.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by propain Click here to enlarge
    Hundredths....

    Ok, enough of a post count on this one. Lets send it into oblivion where it belongs.
    Yes, hundredths, even better.

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    I think everyone should stop giving Jon more variables where we can use as an excuse for his "Factory Freak" wasn't the fastest.

    Jon - STOP mouthing off and just do some runs at ATCO! Your first unverified run of 9.5, you stated that Mexico had NO inclines. Now that your 9.7 run has been verified, you make it sound like you were going up Mt. Everest. Which is it? If you're faster than Jim, you should be able to get 9.4! Go get that and you can be the fastest "Tune Only" C63.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    How this thread is 6 pages going on 7 I have no clue.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by I am Jeff Click here to enlarge
    I think everyone should stop giving Jon more variables where we can use as an excuse for his "Factory Freak" wasn't the fastest.

    Jon - STOP mouthing off and just do some runs at ATCO! Your first unverified run of 9.5, you stated that Mexico had NO inclines. Now that your 9.7 run has been verified, you make it sound like you were going up Mt. Everest. Which is it? If you're faster than Jim, you should be able to get 9.4! Go get that and you can be the fastest "Tune Only" C63.
    Another guy who likes to dig.Click here to enlargeClick here to enlarge Yes I have the TUNE ONLY RECORD 60-130.Click here to enlarge This is my thread so I could back up my claims. Not about the 1/4 or whatever. Like the title says. Never mind.Click here to enlarge

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