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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DarkPhantom Click here to enlarge
    So...does that mean it will crawl forward when you let off the brake?
    Yes.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Interesting, but will upgrading those parts pose a problem with the tranny software?
    It's very likely and the software is also going to be different, but no more easily accessible.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MHP LLC Click here to enlarge
    It's very likely and the software is also going to be different, but no more easily accessible.
    Then this changes nothing but perhaps the software will have higher torque limits?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Then this changes nothing but perhaps the software will have higher torque limits?
    Perhaps but with what happened to earlier MCT I highly doubt it. We shall see.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
    they needed to catch up. porche has it, bmw has it, even VW with their GTI have dual clutches for the fast shifts one of the first too.

    and theyre smart with the clutch discs, they're making it fail safe pretty much.
    AMG already has the double clutch gearbox (DCT , not MCT) but it seems they are keeping in only for the SLS. I really don't know why since you can get something similiar in a 10.000$ VW POLO

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bogdan_mb Click here to enlarge
    AMG already has the double clutch gearbox (DCT , not MCT) but it seems they are keeping in only for the SLS. I really don't know why since you can get something similiar in a 10.000$ VW POLO
    Doesn't make any sense to me why they would use an MCT over a DCT if they have one.

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    I had a C63 after that W212 E63..MCT is garbage. It would slip and jerk..not even close to DCT or PDK.
    IMO the C63 might not be as fast but is a lot smoother. I hated MCT so much i traded in for PTT..lost $20k in 1 year!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Fly970TT Click here to enlarge
    I had a C63 after that W212 E63..MCT is garbage. It would slip and jerk..not even close to DCT or PDK.
    IMO the C63 might not be as fast but is a lot smoother. I hated MCT so much i traded in for PTT..lost $20k in 1 year!
    Sir i recomend you to try SMG , if you get used to it all other transmissions seem smooth

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by HeroSina Click here to enlarge
    Sir i recomend you to try SMG , if you get used to it all other transmissions seem smooth
    Yes i did..i had an 08 M5..love it at first but not good in LA traffic. SMG by far is the worst!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Fly970TT Click here to enlarge
    Yes i did..i had an 08 M5..love it at first but not good in LA traffic. SMG by far is the worst!

    http://i474.photobucket.com/albums/r...i/IMG_2004.jpg
    Beautiful car
    in high speeds it is not that bad , but in traffic it's really jerky

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by HeroSina Click here to enlarge
    Beautiful car
    in high speeds it is not that bad , but in traffic it's really jerky
    I hear that. Worst auto function ever and w/out L.C. horrible off the line. Gotta love WOT shifts especially after a tune. Still my favorite DD to this day.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Doesn't make any sense to me why they would use an MCT over a DCT if they have one.
    Look what I've just found :

    An A22 AMG is also in the pipeline, using a 270bhp unit. The A-Class will become the second Mercedes model to feature a seven-speed DSG gearbox as standard, after the SLS AMG.
    Source : Autoexpress uk, I don't know if they are trust worthy.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bogdan_mb Click here to enlarge
    Look what I've just found :

    An A22 AMG is also in the pipeline, using a 270bhp unit. The A-Class will become the second Mercedes model to feature a seven-speed DSG gearbox as standard, after the SLS AMG.

    Source : Autoexpress uk, I don't know if they are trust worthy.
    I don't trust AutoExpress
    If you want to make sure about one thing , go for AutoCar UK ,%99.99 of what they say make it to real world

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MHP LLC Click here to enlarge
    I hear that. Worst auto function ever and w/out L.C. horrible off the line. Gotta love WOT shifts especially after a tune. Still my favorite DD to this day.
    Trying to treat it like an auto is the mistake people make. Treat it like an automated manual and drive it as such and SMG is excellent. The only bad thing about it is auto mode.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bogdan_mb Click here to enlarge
    Look what I've just found :

    An A22 AMG is also in the pipeline, using a 270bhp unit. The A-Class will become the second Mercedes model to feature a seven-speed DSG gearbox as standard, after the SLS AMG.
    Source : Autoexpress uk, I don't know if they are trust worthy.
    Interesting but I just don't understand why they don't give the C63 AMG the SLS DCT.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Fly970TT Click here to enlarge
    I had a C63 after that W212 E63..MCT is garbage. It would slip and jerk..not even close to DCT or PDK.
    IMO the C63 might not be as fast but is a lot smoother. I hated MCT so much i traded in for PTT..lost $20k in 1 year!
    If it doesn't improve the driving experience then why even change to the MCT? They might as well have left it alone.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Trying to treat it like an auto is the mistake people make. Treat it like an automated manual and drive it as such and SMG is excellent. The only bad thing about it is auto mode.
    I always drove mine in M mode, S6, etc. Couldn't take it any other way, and it was magnificent in this mode as you stated.

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    Here is a press release on the transmission released today:

    Affalterbach – The successful Mercedes-Benz C 63 AMG is now more attractive than ever: the modified design of the top-of-the-range C-Class model is
    complemented by numerous enhancements to its technology which deliver even more driving enjoyment while reducing fuel consumption significantly. The introduction of the AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT 7-speed sports transmission with the "Controlled Efficiency" mode as standard along with a new power steering pump helps to reduce the combined NEDC fuel consumption by about ten percent to 12.0 l/100 km (Estate: 12.3 l/100 km). The output of the AMG 6.3-litre V8 engine is unchanged at 336 kW (457 hp) and can be increased to a maximum of 358 kW (487 hp) with the optional AMG Performance package. Agility, grip and ride comfort have been enhanced as a result of numerous measures to optimise the AMG sports suspension. New assistance systems and a new generation of telematics with internet access increase both safety and comfort.

    The latest 2011 generation of the C 63 AMG is now more dynamic and athletic than ever. Thanks to its new radiator grille with a large Mercedes star and a wing-type transverse louvre, as well as a new AMG front apron with a lower cross member painted in high-gloss black, special AMG daytime running lights and side air outlets, the front section recalls the look of the SL 63 AMG high-performance roadster. The new bonnet with its modified powerdomes is now made of aluminium. New clear-lens headlamps emphasise the car's distinctive, self-confident presence, especially when the optional Intelligent Light System (ILS) is also specified. The wide front wings with the "6.3 AMG" legend and the new 5 twin-spoke AMG light-alloy wheels which are painted in titanium grey and have a high-sheen finish dominate the side view. Good contact with the road is provided by the wide 235/40 R 18 and 255/35 R 18 tyres at front and rear respectively.

    The rear view of the C 63 AMG also evokes the SL 63 AMG: the new AMG rear apron has a distinctive, black diffuser insert with three pronounced diffuser fins. The two chromed twin tailpipes of the AMG sports exhaust system are as pleasing to the ear as they are to the eye.

    AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT 7-speed sports transmission from the SL 63 AMG

    Under the skin, too, the top C-Class model boasts a wealth of new technology including the AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT 7-speed sports transmission - another advanced feature adopted from the SL 63 AMG. Rather than using a torque converter, this innovative transmission has a wet start-off clutch which allows it to deliver a much more efficient, agile and direct response. Fuel consumption and emissions have been reduced significantly thanks to the "Controlled Efficiency" mode and a new power steering pump: at 12.0 litres per 100 km (Estate: 12.3 l/100 km) the combined NEDC fuel consumption of the C 63 AMG is 1.4 litres (Estate: 1.3 litres) lower than that of the predecessor model; this represents a reduction in fuel consumption of some ten percent. The CO2 emissions figure is now 280 (Estate: 288) grams per kilometre. Both power variants have identical fuel consumption and emission figures.

    The AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT 7-speed sports transmission impresses with its exceptional flexibility: with four driving modes as well as double-declutching and RACE START functions it is as compatible with a relaxed, fuel-saving driving style as it is with high-speed laps on a closed racing circuit and extremely dynamic overtaking manoeuvres. The Controlled Efficiency "C" mode is programmed to provide early, comfortable upshifts while maintaining the lowest possible engine speed to help the driver keep fuel consumption down. The "S", "S+" and "M" modes deliver increased agility through fast, responsive gear changes and higher revs. Gear changes in the "S+" and "M" modes take just 100 milliseconds.

    The naturally aspirated eight-cylinder engine with its large displacement of 6208 cc develops 336 kW (457 hp) at 6800 rpm and attains a peak torque of 600 newton metres at 5000 rpm. A look at the performance figures confirms that the new C 63 AMG retains its predecessor's position as the top performing model in its segment: acceleration from standstill to 100 km/h takes just 4.5 seconds (Estate: 4.6 s) while the top speed is 250 km/h (electronically limited).
    Performance package: technology transfer from the SLS AMG

    Even more dynamic performance is available with the optional AMG Performance package: this offers 358 kW (487 hp) and allows a 0-100 km/h acceleration time of 4.4 seconds (Estate: 4.5 s). The Mercedes-AMG engine experts have achieved this increase in output thanks to a technology transfer from the SLS AMG: the forged pistons, connecting rods and the lightweight crankshaft all come from the gullwing model's engine. The reduced mass inertia of the components – which are three
    kilograms lighter than those of the standard version – allows the naturally aspirated eight-cylinder engine to rev up with even greater ease and agility. Models equipped with the performance package can be identified by the variable intake manifold painted in titanium grey under the bonnet, the AMG high-performance braking system with composite front discs and red painted brake calipers all round, the carbon-fibre spoiler lip on the boot lid (Saloon) and the AMG performance steering wheel in nappa leather with an Alcantara® grip area.

    Key data at a glance:

    C 63 AMG
    C 63 AMG Estate
    Displacement
    6208 cc
    6208 cc
    Bore x stroke
    102.2 x 94.6 mm
    102.2 x 94.6 mm
    Compression ratio
    11.3 : 1
    11.3 : 1
    Output
    336 kW (457 hp) at 6800 rpm
    358 kW (487 hp) at 6800 rpm*
    336 kW (457 hp) at 6800 rpm
    358 kW (487 hp) at 6800 rpm*
    Max. torque
    600 Nm at 5000 rpm
    600 Nm at 5000 rpm
    Engine weight (dry)
    196 kg
    196 kg
    Fuel consumption NEDC combined
    12.0 l/100 km
    12.3 l/100 km
    CO2 emissions
    280 g/km
    288 g/km

    Acceleration 0 - 100 km/h
    4.5 s 4.4 s*
    4.6 s 4.5 s*
    Top speed**
    250 km/h**
    250 km/h**
    * with AMG Performance package; ** electronically limited

    Optimised suspension, new steering system reduces fuel consumption

    The AMG sports suspension with a special front axle, reinforced rear axle and wider track all round has undergone thorough modification; the driver benefits from this in two ways as the C 63 AMG now offers greater driving enjoyment and ride comfort at all times. The new, stiffer elastokinematics, the revised axle kinematics with more negative camber all round and the new rear-axle anti-roll bar with a larger cross-section result in higher agility and greater lateral acceleration. But driving dynamics is not the only area in which progress has been made: new spring and damper rates have optimised both the responsiveness of the suspension as well as the road roar and tyre vibration characteristics.
    The AMG speed-sensitive sports steering with a direct ratio (13.5 : 1) has a newly developed power-steering pump which plays a decisive role in reducing the fuel consumption. This is because the power assistance for the steering only requires energy when the driver is actually making steering movements. Reliable deceleration at all times is ensured by the AMG high-performance braking system with internally ventilated and perforated discs all round.

    Interior: high quality and perceived value

    Even a quick glance at the interior of the C 63 AMG reveals the considerable progress which has been made: the completely new dashboard design with an integrated screen impresses with its particularly attractive appearance and the superior quality of the details which immediately bring the new CLS 63 AMG to mind. The quality look and feel meet the highest standards. The new, all-colour, three-dimensional TFT display in the middle of the redesigned speedometer welcomes the driver by showing the AMG logo. The new three-spoke AMG performance steering wheel - another feature adopted from the CLS 63 AMG – which is trimmed in nappa leather and features a metallic trim element has flattened top and bottom sections as well as grip areas which are specially shaped and trimmed in perforated leather for perfect steering control. Aluminium shift paddles allow manual gear selection.

    Fine trim elements in brushed dark aluminium are to be found on the dashboard and doors. Situated in the centre console, which is enhanced with high-gloss black piano lacquer trim elements, is the new rotary control for selecting the transmission modes C, S, S+, M and RACE START. The special AMG sports seats with integral head restraints and adaptive backrests are available from launch with combined ARTICO/DINAMICA black upholstery. DINAMICA is a new type of breathable man-made fibre which is pleasant to the touch and is characterised by low emissions and a high degree of lightfastness. The side bolsters of the AMG sports seats are covered in ARTICO while the centre panels of the seat cushions are also upholstered with DINAMICA.

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    Sticky i read somewhere that Coupe gets a 5.5 naturally aspirated engine , is it right?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by HeroSina Click here to enlarge
    Sticky i read somewhere that Coupe gets a 5.5 naturally aspirated engine , is it right?
    http://www.benzboost.com/content.php...r-than-C63-AMG

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    I like the car. When's the coupe coming out?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Barfly Click here to enlarge
    I like the car. When's the coupe coming out?
    I would assume in the next few months?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Fly970TT Click here to enlarge
    I had a C63 after that W212 E63..MCT is garbage. It would slip and jerk..not even close to DCT or PDK.
    IMO the C63 might not be as fast but is a lot smoother. I hated MCT so much i traded in for PTT..lost $20k in 1 year!
    My god, I am just about to order a MCT C63. Glad I am looking at this right now. I really hate the 7G on my C63. Is the MCT C63 going to have the exact the same tranny in your old W212? I really like F1, PDK, MDCT, S tronic, etc. I guess I will be very disappointed? 7G in M mode I find it slow. It's a good automatic box but this is not what I want.

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