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    Xbox 360 or PS3 for race sims

    I am not much of a console gamer (at all actually) but I was recently introduced to Forza 3 and have been playing it quite a bit at my friends house. I want my own Xbox so I can play at home, with a steering console and shifter etc...

    But I hear that PS3 also has some really good race sims, isn't GT5 on PS3? How is it compared to forza? I really like the fact that I can upgrade my car with mods, test and tune it etc...

    I am also aware that the microsoft steering wheel is $#@!cake and that the GT27 Logitec is the sex, but it only works for PS3? I really want to use a wheel with forza, but if there are no options then I may have to end up getting a PS3 and GT5.

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    The automagazine which I am subscriberd to actually did a test a few weeks ago between Forza3 and GT5, and their conclusion was that Forza 3 was best.
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    Forza 3 campaign and tuning options are better than GT5. You have to check out Forza's upgrade shop to really appreciate it. The engine upgrades all will show you ft-lbs/hp loss or gain as well as your new engine dyno plot. They are all realistic, different exhaust will make your car sound different, headwork will improve top end breathing ability, cams/valve-springs will raise rev limit, bigger turbo will be laggier but more top-end torque, etc.

    All the cars in Forza 3 are new digitized models with cockpit views.

    Only 20% of the GT5 cars are new digitized models with cockpit views.

    I prefer the less floaty physics of Forza 3 over GT5. The tire modeling of Forza 3 is excellent for a console game.

    Also, Forza 4 is coming, and you can only imagine how awesome it will be.

    For xbox360 you can still get a BADASS force-feedback wheel. Check out Fanatec: http://www.fanatec.de/

    Or you can use a G27 with your xbox360 http://www.logitech.com/en-us/gaming...s/devices/5184 using this http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/2009/03...-fire-adapter/.
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    Thanks slicktop, yea i was looking at the adapter; i will probably just get the fanatec and not have to deal with the adapter. I really like forza 3 a lot, and i hear forza 4 is supposed to be the pimps wallet.
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    Also, Xbox360 has Race Pro, a VERY accurate racing simulation by the SimBin development team and their custom engine.

    http://videogames.atari.com/games/race_pro/xbox360

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    I've never heard of that game, that's SICK.

    Can you tune cars in this game?
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    GT5 on a 3D tv hands down will blast your mind away.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DBFIU Click here to enlarge
    I've never heard of that game, that's SICK.

    Can you tune cars in this game?
    You can tune suspension settings, but no it is not a "tuner" game like Forza 3, strictly racing and licensed race cars.

    It has very accurate tire, suspension and aerodynamic modeling.

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    Interesting show of Forza 3 tire physics. Haven't seen this in GT5.


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    That's crazy, I'm gonna have to check that out next time I play Forza 3.

    I did find a couple flaws in Forza 3. For instance, the algorithms by which the handling platform is based on is geared heavily towards road course and handling physics; what I am trying to say is although you can drag race in Forza 3 you definately CANNOT perform the same types of tunes on a car to aid in launch and front line stability as you would do in real life.

    For example:

    I bought a foxbody mustang and dropped a big block in it and supercharged it, it makes gobs of torque right? Great for a drag race which is what I built that car for.

    So I drop the tire pressure to 15 psi, stiffen up the rear springs, soften the front springs and shocks and get the stickiest tire compound.

    Even with light throttle the car cant get traction, it's not even like it breaks loose kinda, more like you need to idle off the line to start moving. I think that the track physics is fantastic, but if they are going to implement a drag race theme into the game as well; they need to get THAT portion of the physics right too.

    Maybe they can switch algorithms for drag race events where tire pressure and spring constants are more tuned for straight line performance? I dont know, but they need to work on that because I come from a drag racing community and I am used to setting these parameters up that should technically work in real life, but they are not working in the game.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DBFIU Click here to enlarge
    That's crazy, I'm gonna have to check that out next time I play Forza 3.

    I did find a couple flaws in Forza 3. For instance, the algorithms by which the handling platform is based on is geared heavily towards road course and handling physics; what I am trying to say is although you can drag race in Forza 3 you definately CANNOT perform the same types of tunes on a car to aid in launch and front line stability as you would do in real life.

    For example:

    I bought a foxbody mustang and dropped a big block in it and supercharged it, it makes gobs of torque right? Great for a drag race which is what I built that car for.

    So I drop the tire pressure to 15 psi, stiffen up the rear springs, soften the front springs and shocks and get the stickiest tire compound.

    Even with light throttle the car cant get traction, it's not even like it breaks loose kinda, more like you need to idle off the line to start moving. I think that the track physics is fantastic, but if they are going to implement a drag race theme into the game as well; they need to get THAT portion of the physics right too.

    Maybe they can switch algorithms for drag race events where tire pressure and spring constants are more tuned for straight line performance? I dont know, but they need to work on that because I come from a drag racing community and I am used to setting these parameters up that should technically work in real life, but they are not working in the game.
    I agree the drag racing is the worst part of the game, and also the newest, showing up only in Forza 3. They do NOT model drag slicks in the game, only R compounds, and 15psi is likely too low.

    There have been some successful wheel stands though, I suggest looking for a good setup online and then tweak off of that.

    This guy got a Datsun 510 to do 8.9 1/4 mile!

    Some of the rear-engined cars can be setup to wheelstand.

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    Xbox wins this battle, Forza 3 is the $#@!.
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    Ok those wheelies are pretty $#@!ing cool.

    There was no argument that Forza 3 wasnt the $#@!, it $#@!s all over GT5 IMO if you are like me and like to tune everything on your car.

    I was just worried there werent any steering wheel options for Xbox, but there are Fanatec that look good.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by e92 Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by e92 Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SlicktopTTZ Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DBFIU Click here to enlarge
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    LOL ok have fun dragging and dropping, that's about the only thing you can do.......

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SlicktopTTZ Click here to enlarge
    LOL ok have fun dragging and dropping, that's about the only thing you can do.......


    LOL RAGED SO HARD
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    In all honesty I only use my mac for music production (my hobby)..

    I do all of my engineering and analysis (real work) on an 8 core 64 bit PC...

    Macs have a purpose, its just not as important to the world as a PC lol
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DBFIU Click here to enlarge
    In all honesty I only use my mac for music production (my hobby)..
    Share your music.
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    GT5 on a 3D tv hands down will blast your mind away.
    even Super Mario in 3D will blast your mind

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