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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Even Money Click here to enlarge
    I'll take the MHP NA loudness any day over that annoying supercharger whine.
    I hardly heard a white on this car, 6psi won't make much of a whine...
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TaZaM3 Click here to enlarge
    I hardly heard a white on this car, 6psi won't make much of a whine...
    If you know the guy who has the car can you put me in contact with him?
    Stage 2 or 2.5 E9X M3 S65 V8 supercharger kit for sale: http://www.boostaddict.com/showthrea...r-kit-for-sale

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    If you know the guy who has the car can you put me in contact with him?
    I can try. I don't know him too well but If i see him I will let him know.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TaZaM3 Click here to enlarge
    I can try. I don't know him too well but If i see him I will let him know.
    There is no try, do.

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    i think Taza is right , why be so negative? give those a guys a chance to see what they can bring on.Time will clear many things.
    If you want to tell your opinion , tell it but gently , don't disrespect others.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sorena Click here to enlarge
    i think Taza is right , why be so negative? give those a guys a chance to see what they can bring on.Time will clear many things.
    If you want to tell your opinion , tell it but gently , don't disrespect others.
    It's all good, we can all get along and let's just move on.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Even Money Click here to enlarge
    I'll take the MHP NA loudness any day over that annoying supercharger whine.
    I get that, but for some as a daily driver it might be too much. I prefer n/a engines as well. But I actuactually love the whine of a roots blower. Never bad to have options
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD Click here to enlarge
    I get that, but for some as a daily driver it might be too much. I prefer n/a engines as well. But I actuactually love the whine of a roots blower. Never bad to have options
    Same here, fan of both.
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    Noticed they added some more information on MBW.

    Dyno and drive by.




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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TaZaM3 Click here to enlarge
    Noticed they added some more information on MBW.

    http://www.bimmerboost.com/images/im...nostage1-1.jpg

    Nice find, now we have numbers. The SC is running good. Lets see how things develop.
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    I found more info about price and what the kit includes on their site. A stage 2 seems to be in the works.

    http://www.weistec.com/products.html


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    The above mentioned $27,999 is the price of the SC package for the SLS

    "Pricing for our Stage 2 system is not on the website as of this time, but we don't expect a huge jump in cost. More information will be available shortly. "

    Weistec
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    I wonder what they are using to tune that.

    Sounds tits though!!
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    Other people eat shit and die.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MHP LLC Click here to enlarge
    A 30 second vid and everyone thinks the impossible is possible. LOL. Let's go over a couple reasons why this blower will never work or sell.

    Cost: If you think this blower is coming in under the $15K mark lol, well, I don't know what to tell you. That nixes 99% of the potential market, as customers already complain about the cost of significantly less expensive yet highly effective parts. We'll see how many "I'm in"s we'll get once the price is announced.

    Overall Output: This will be capped by the trans and fuel management, even if they are using a piggyback unless they replaced the entire fuel system ($$$) the max you're going to see this combo put out is ~500rwhp. Which is what we get from headers, mids, tuning, and airboxes N/A. If you spent the $ to replace the fuel system you still have cast pistons and 11.3:1 static CR with PFI to deal with. Meaning you are not only electronically and driveline limited (trans) you are also mechanically limited by the shortblock.

    Blower Size: I can see that they were targeting stock or near stock cars with this kit as the inlet issue and wrong size supercharger were used for this application. If they had higher outputs in mind (aka going in and rebuilding the shortblock) they would've used a 2.8L or larger blower.

    Trans: Unless they cracked the Holy Grail and I don't see that being the case, this car will $#@! a trans in the first week. It should be making an easy 525-550rwtq with that 500rwhp, BTDT with that kind of torque and the results weren't pretty. Now add to the load that PD blowers make peak boost just off idle (especially in a low boost app like this) and you have a serious recipie for disaster.

    Converter: LOL, just LOL for now.

    Inlets: The blower in question uses the stock inlet tubes which are restrictive on a N/A M156, PD blowers are especially effected

    I know there are quite a few M156 owners that want to believe this is a cost effective forced induction solution, however if you know the facts now you can already tell how limited (power production wise) and expensive this kit will be. Aside from that you can make the same power N/A with much greater reliability, no heatsoak, etc.

    In summation I feel this will be the most overanticipated and underdelivering mod yet for the M156, cost per $, and that is if they can not only get it to run, but to do so without grenading the driveline first. Like it or not nothing about the M156 (save cylinder count) is on par with the S65 in terms of being ready for forced induction.
    You bring up a lot of good points Andy....NOT!!!! LMAO when I read this post, he hit the nail on the head exactly ZERO times.
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    He wonders why he never sold a Weistec blower?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MHP LLC Click here to enlarge
    AFAIK, there are Four 722.9 TCU tools, 3 in Europe, 1 in NJ, all 4 belong to MB/AMG and no one in the aftermarket has access to them.

    On paper this project is still a disaster because zero driveline solutions have been presented. They figured out the easy part (getting it to run/idle) as others have in the past (Brabus), now getting it to work along with the rest of the driveline (shorterm or longterm) is a different story altogether.

    Fact is we can offer upgraded engine internals now. We can also offer upgraded trans internals now however they are useless unless the software can be changed to accomodate them and the application at hand. Aside from that how many people will spend $40K upgrading the engine/trans internals/fuel system only to find out they have a tiny 2.3L blower sitting on top of the engine that then becomes the limiting factor.

    Until I see hard data telling me otherwise (and that would be a first in this instance) there are just too many problems and stipulations on the table for this to make any sense. Best case scenario this is a quiet 480-500rw solution.
    Another bullseye by Andy ROFLMAO!!!

    Weistec is currently making 660 whp on at least two cars (mine and Earls), we are both running stock trans, converters and TCU's
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    He wonders why he never sold a Weistec blower?
    Sticky, you're either up real early or our real late. Are you in Vegas?
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    He should have posted that under his JBond account. You know...cause everything they ever posted was FACT...LOL.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LZH Click here to enlarge
    He should have posted that under his JBond account. You know...cause everything they ever posted was FACT...LOL.
    ...I personally like the following Andy quotes "even if they are using a piggyback unless they replaced the entire fuel system ($$$) the max you're going to see this combo put out is ~500rwhp"...Andy's posts in this thread alone are enough to completely discredit his knowledge of these motors and drivetrains.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
    Sticky, you're either up real early or our real late. Are you in Vegas?
    I am still up. This sentence was even hard to type.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
    ...I personally like the following Andy quotes "even if they are using a piggyback unless they replaced the entire fuel system ($$$) the max you're going to see this combo put out is ~500rwhp"...Andy's posts in this thread alone are enough to completely discredit his knowledge of these motors and drivetrains.
    Clearly they exceeded the supposed 500 whp limit by quite a bit. Those posts look very odd now.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Clearly they exceeded the supposed 500 whp limit by quite a bit. Those posts look very odd now.
    There will always be doubters. Without doubters we wouldn't have pioneers.

    Off topic but I think it applies.

    A buddy of mine just shoehorned a Cummings diesel(straight six) in his 1980 Camaro after everyone told him it can't be done. Turbo is not on yet.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by PetroC63 Click here to enlarge
    A buddy of mine just shoehorned a Cummings diesel(straight six) in his 1980 Camaro after everyone told him it can't be done.
    That is sick.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    That is sick.
    Love it...only in America!!!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    That is sick.
    He is sick but extremely smart and handy.

    This was his car before he took on the new project. He ran a best of 9.70 @ 150
    after the article was written.

    http://www.superchevy.com/features/c...8/viewall.html

    Sorry for being off topic.
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    Stage 3 Mods:
    - LSA ported/polished heads, 4.5" G-Force intake, Nick Williams 102mm T-body, 8.6 Lower Pulley

    12.18 @ 118.98 - STOCK
    10.87 @ 127.02 - STAGE 1
    10.53 @ 131.31 - STAGE 2
    10.47 @ 133.20 - STAGE 3

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