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    The Truth About Obamacare

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    It's a all a disaster, whatever.
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    yup

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    How the $#@! has he not been impeached? I feel like as much as information as we hear, what's really happening must be 100% worse, god knows what he is doing to keep himself in office at this point and the things he has covered up. I just don't $#@!ing get it. Clinton is impeached for getting blowjob and this idiot allows americans to be killed, supports terrorists groups, and now is trying to destroy our healthcare and he's still allowed to stand in front of a camera and smile? I'm absolutely heated right now.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mjmarovi Click here to enlarge
    How the $#@! has he not been impeached? I feel like as much as information as we hear, what's really happening must be 100% worse, god knows what he is doing to keep himself in office at this point and the things he has covered up. I just don't $#@!ing get it. Clinton is impeached for getting blowjob and this idiot allows americans to be killed, supports terrorists groups, and now is trying to destroy our healthcare and he's still allowed to stand in front of a camera and smile? I'm absolutely heated right now.
    Even if he were removed would it change the NSA or Federal Reserve? We need real fundamental changes to the entire system.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Even if he were removed would it change the NSA or Federal Reserve? We need real fundamental changes to the entire system.
    It's a start, need a new committee that actually stands up for Americans and does the right thing...oh wait aren't we suppose to have that already? Called Congress? I just wonder how far things need to go or will go before major reform happens.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mjmarovi Click here to enlarge
    It's a start, need a new committee that actually stands up for Americans and does the right thing...oh wait aren't we suppose to have that already? Called Congress? I just wonder how far things need to go or will go before major reform happens.
    Things would change if people actually had a direct vote. WTF do I need a congressman for? I can vote myself thanks.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Things would change if people actually had a direct vote. WTF do I need a congressman for? I can vote myself thanks.
    With technology now, you'd think we could vote on each individual bill ourselves rather than have someone who wants to fill them all with nonsense for their own personal gain, but there still comes the need for a committee to take on the responsibility of checks and balances...not that they're checking or balancing anything...but...
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mjmarovi Click here to enlarge
    With technology now, you'd think we could vote on each individual bill ourselves rather than have someone who wants to fill them all with nonsense for their own personal gain, but there still comes the need for a committee to take on the responsibility of checks and balances...not that they're checking or balancing anything...but...
    That's exactly it I can vote myself and if someone doesn't want to vote themselves why don't they give their vote then to someone with their same stance (say a party representative) to vote for them?

    This would eliminate the ability for lobbyists to force a vote their way as they can't possibly get to every single person or bribe everyone.

    It's all been chipped away to the point that special interests get whatever they want and if they don't they come up with a scandal to remove dissenters. The people need the power back.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    That's exactly it I can vote myself and if someone doesn't want to vote themselves why don't they give their vote then to someone with their same stance (say a party representative) to vote for them?

    This would eliminate the ability for lobbyists to force a vote their way as they can't possibly get to every single person or bribe everyone.

    It's all been chipped away to the point that special interests get whatever they want and if they don't they come up with a scandal to remove dissenters. The people need the power back.
    You'd think we'd note California how your politics are basically a few years ahead of where the rest of the nation is heading...liberal and broke...LOL

    No matter how you look at it, you need voted representatives....otherwise it would be pretty difficult to write a bill. It could work though, we do have the supreme court and Senate, so I could see completely getting rid of congress, where there's a will there's a way...or a new country...that is after all how this nation started....people like ourselves were fed up with things happening like they are now and wanted freedom from being told what they were going to pay for and how much they were going to pay.
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    Here is the truth about Affordable Health Care- my brother has a heart condition that prevents him from getting health insurance. With "Obamacare" he can now get health insurance, and thus omit financial ruin if he gets sick. End of story.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mjmarovi Click here to enlarge
    No matter how you look at it, you need voted representatives....otherwise it would be pretty difficult to write a bill. It could work though, we do have the supreme court and Senate, so I could see completely getting rid of congress, where there's a will there's a way...or a new country...that is after all how this nation started....people like ourselves were fed up with things happening like they are now and wanted freedom from being told what they were going to pay for and how much they were going to pay.
    You would have voted representatives as senators would stay in place. Why not balance the house with the public which is what it is supposed to be right?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BigM62 Click here to enlarge
    Here is the truth about Affordable Health Care- my brother has a heart condition that prevents him from getting health insurance. With "Obamacare" he can now get health insurance, and thus omit financial ruin if he gets sick. End of story.



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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BigM62 Click here to enlarge
    Here is the truth about Affordable Health Care- my brother has a heart condition that prevents him from getting health insurance. With "Obamacare" he can now get health insurance, and thus omit financial ruin if he gets sick. End of story.
    The only good thing about it is that. For those who do not comply with the law. You face a 4,000 or so fine, and risk of a suspended license. Weeeeeeeeeeeeee
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Even if he were removed would it change the NSA or Federal Reserve? We need real fundamental changes to the entire system.

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    He's more intelligent than I thought.
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    He's more intelligent than I thought.
    Yeah...but still an idealist liberal...there are lots of "smart" people who lack logic
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mjmarovi Click here to enlarge
    Yeah...but still an idealist liberal...there are lots of "smart" people who lack logic

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mjmarovi Click here to enlarge
    Yeah...but still an idealist liberal...there are lots of "smart" people who lack logic
    Idealist for sure but definitely raises some good points. I'd rather have some bleeding heart idealist making policy who thinks he can make the world a better place than someone carting to big business/banks/corporations.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BMWJunkie Click here to enlarge
    moron. profit is good. lobbying is what $#@!s it up

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    Profit without thought led to Marie Antoinette's downfall, even if she never said, "Let them eat cake."

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    Here is a good read on how the website failed, and what the normal roll out is for all you under the hood tech types.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Even if he were removed would it change the NSA or Federal Reserve? We need real fundamental changes to the entire system.
    Amen. Try to remove the Koch brothers ( John Birch Society)

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    im not going to post the hundreds of infograms that show how it should have been built for 10% of the price.. but then they wouldnt be able to monitor collect and share your personal information with every US agency and nigerian princes running the helplines

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