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    Guys chill the $#@! out.... If either of you actually thinks one party is better than another than you're both seriously lost. Neither party represents the people anymore. They both represent the interests of corporations, religious wackos, and liberal morons. Honestly both parties pander to get votes, they don't care about the average person. Regardless of who wins this November we're gonna be in debt up to our eyeballs with no end in sight.

    FR305... LostMarine is doing our country a service. He's fighting so we don't have to. We should be thankful for that not wishing him harm or death. I for one am thankful for your service and hope you return safely with all your commrades. Now guys please chill out and lets get back to making fun of PencilDick and his fail of a car!
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    I do whati do becuase i like what i do, im good at it, and few can do it better. but thats OT.

    I agree neither party is ours anymore, but 1 is far worse than the other. IF you follow the other thread, you can see the man i want, and his beliefs, are not a "party's" anymore . I cant help it if ALL of the opposing party is Commy

    Ron Paul speaks the truth. I challeng anyone to find something he is wrong on.. whether it be Iraq, our polices, the N debt. Federal Reserve, IRS.. the dumb, deaf, and blind follow the Dems. its that simple.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    I do whati do becuase i like what i do, im good at it, and few can do it better. but thats OT.

    I agree neither party is ours anymore, but 1 is far worse than the other. IF you follow the other thread, you can see the man i want, and his beliefs, are not a "party's" anymore . I cant help it if ALL of the opposing party is Commy

    Ron Paul speaks the truth. I challeng anyone to find something he is wrong on.. whether it be Iraq, our polices, the N debt. Federal Reserve, IRS.. the dumb, deaf, and blind follow the Dems. its that simple.
    I respectfully disagree Ron Paul is a lunatic. He advocates an isolationist foreign policy, one which set us back to pre WWI era and would be extremely dangerous considering Al Qaeda, Iran, and North Korea are all viable threats. Iraq was a mistake. I agree with him on that, but some of the other $#@! he says like getting of rid of the Federal Reserve the IRS and not to mention the Department of Education is lunacy. If Ron Paul advocated logical solutions he would have mass support not just the fringes of the conservative movement.

    People are angry because they're out of work, they're losing their homes, and up to their eyeballs in debt. The middle class has virtually disappeared. Families cannot afford health care for their kids. Our education system is a $#@!ing joke! Our borders are wide open for anyone to walk right through! Yet the politicians keep bickering and do nothing. Instead of finger pointing they need to offer solutions, until they do that we're $#@!ed!

    BTW using phrases like ALL of them are commies is very simple minded and a relic from the McCarthy Era. Communism involves full state control. No one is advocating that. Also its conservatives who wish to control peoples' personal lives, by forcing their values down our throats.. i.e. gay marriage abortion and other retarded $#@! that could really mean less when people are struggling.

    Neither party is about the people anymore. Believe what you wanna believe, that's your choice, but don't be foolish to think a political candidate or party care about you, the average person.
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    BTW isn't Christine O'Donnell "the darling of the Tea Party" the same woman who advocated that masturbation is wrong and looking at pornography is akin to adultery??? Yeah sounds just like the woman I want helping to run this country. Dear G-d just bring on the apocalypse and get it over with...
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Monster135 Click here to enlarge
    BTW isn't Christine O'Donnell "the darling of the Tea Party" the same woman who advocated that masturbation is wrong and looking at pornography is akin to adultery??? Yeah sounds just like the woman I want helping to run this country. Dear G-d just bring on the apocalypse and get it over with...
    well thats because she has a vagina, and they dont belong in control of anything. so I cant argue with you on that.

    AS for doing away with eall those.. thats the only way to bring about change, problem is that its sSO radical people are afraid to support it. but his point s are still true.

    Non-intervention is exactly what we need to do, in my opinion. we dont want anyone telling us what we should do, why should we force ourselves upon others. Those mentiona re threats because we are in their land, its simple, we know, they have told us..

    Think about it.. did we hate Iraq ot "muslims" (generalizing of course) until they came over here to our land? nope.. its when you come to my house i get angry. do what you want in your own, dont bring the $#@! to my yard..

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Monster135 Click here to enlarge
    The middle class has virtually disappeared.
    I have to live in some kind of isolated bubble as I don't see this. Everytime I go anywhere there are tons of people spending money like it is going out of style, Dodger game, Costco, supermarket, bar, restaurant, mall, etc.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    well thats because she has a vagina, and they dont belong in control of anything.
    What about their own vaginas?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    What about their own vaginas?
    they cant even control what comes out of that, let alone their mouths, so that should say something.. plus who takes someone seriosuly when you know they just had a dick in their mouth, and other places, the night before..

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    F305- I don't get down to the e-debate thing but wow, at least have the decency to delete that
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    no, he said it, let it stay.

    I guess i have a habit of getting people pissed off and emotional when i show how retarded their views are.. to bad on the other site, IM the one that got banned..

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    I guess it's just not real enough to some people, but it is very very real. It has a way of reaching out and touching you to remind you
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
    Do you really think they are communist. Calling me names wont change the fact that you don't know what you are talking about. I really could care less in what you believe. I hope you die while deployed.
    In OT, we are very hands off.

    However, this comment has gotten more reports and neg reps than any post we have ever had.

    It is fine to debate and get into and so forth, but wishing death upon someone serving the country is simply wrong. I would remove it, but I think it would be protecting you and you don't deserve it.

    Frank, it is simply absurd. I'm not going to force you to apologize or whatnot as you won't, but it is best to not debate this point any further for your own sake. I don't think there is any rational human being who when taking a step away would not be disgusted by your comment. That includes you. I think in a bit of time when you look at it you will ask yourself why you ever said anything so stupid.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    no, he said it, let it stay.

    I guess i have a habit of getting people pissed off and emotional when i show how retarded their views are.. to bad on the other site, IM the one that got banned..

    you are one stupid son of a $#@!. You are saying all democrats are Communist!!! Thats the most ignorant BS I have read in any political thread. That is just retarded.
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    Both parties are apart of Secret Societies. The elite look at normal everyday humans as slaves. Both parties work for the elite agenda. The Bilderberg, Trilateral Commission,and Council On Foreign Relations to name afew. Many past and present presidents are involved in said groups.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    In OT, we are very hands off.

    However, this comment has gotten more reports and neg reps than any post we have ever had.

    It is fine to debate and get into and so forth, but wishing death upon someone serving the country is simply wrong. I would remove it, but I think it would be protecting you and you don't deserve it.

    Frank, it is simply absurd. I'm not going to force you to apologize or whatnot as you won't, but it is best to not debate this point any further for your own sake. I don't think there is any rational human being who when taking a step away would not be disgusted by your comment. That includes you. I think in a bit of time when you look at it you will ask yourself why you ever said anything so stupid.
    It is off topic, and I hope Franklin didnt mean those words. They should take it to pm, and discuss it.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    well thats because she has a vagina, and they dont belong in control of anything. so I cant argue with you on that.

    AS for doing away with eall those.. thats the only way to bring about change, problem is that its sSO radical people are afraid to support it. but his point s are still true.

    Non-intervention is exactly what we need to do, in my opinion. we dont want anyone telling us what we should do, why should we force ourselves upon others. Those mentiona re threats because we are in their land, its simple, we know, they have told us..

    Think about it.. did we hate Iraq ot "muslims" (generalizing of course) until they came over here to our land? nope.. its when you come to my house i get angry. do what you want in your own, dont bring the $#@! to my yard..
    I agree with you, the United States should not be the world's policeman, but there are certain cases in which intervention is the only option i.e. Afghanistan. When we initially invaded Afghanistan it wasn't about forcing our beliefs onto them, it was about dismantling a terrorist organization and denying them a base of operations. Along the way we lost focus i.e. Iraq and now find ourselves in a mess. I don't think our mission should be nation building or setting up democracies all over the world. The people of those countries have to want it themselves and in Afghanistan's case I'm not really sure they want it... But isolationism is not the answer either.

    In regards to Mr. Paul's other views, lets says we did away with the IRS and the Department of Education what would we put in place to replace them? We still need to collect taxes like it or not, so who's going to do it? Now onto our fabulous education system, yes the system is broken a needs a complete overhaul, but completely doing away with the Department and leaving nothing in its place is a mistake. Yes Ron Paul advocates radical solutions, anyone can but they don't work and in the long run will cause more problems.

    When someone actually advocates real solutions and not partisan bull$#@! that only serves the interests of their base I will fully support them, Republican Democrat, Vags of America Party whatever, but for now all politicians are the same. Lots of talk, no real solutions.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
    you are one stupid son of a $#@!. You are saying all democrats are Communist!!! Thats the most ignorant BS I have read in any political thread. That is just retarded.
    True Democrat right here, wish death upon the one willing to stand and fight, call names because i dont agree and hurt your cause..stop trying to impose your Commie ways on me, it wont work.


    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Monster135 Click here to enlarge
    I agree with you, the United States should not be the world's policeman, but there are certain cases in which intervention is the only option i.e. Afghanistan. When we initially invaded Afghanistan it wasn't about forcing our beliefs onto them, it was about dismantling a terrorist organization and denying them a base of operations. Along the way we lost focus i.e. Iraq and now find ourselves in a mess. I don't think our mission should be nation building or setting up democracies all over the world. The people of those countries have to want it themselves and in Afghanistan's case I'm not really sure they want it... But isolationism is not the answer either.

    In regards to Mr. Paul's other views, lets says we did away with the IRS and the Department of Education what would we put in place to replace them? We still need to collect taxes like it or not, so who's going to do it? Now onto our fabulous education system, yes the system is broken a needs a complete overhaul, but completely doing away with the Department and leaving nothing in its place is a mistake. Yes Ron Paul advocates radical solutions, anyone can but they don't work and in the long run will cause more problems.

    When someone actually advocates real solutions and not partisan bull$#@! that only serves the interests of their base I will fully support them, Republican Democrat, Vags of America Party whatever, but for now all politicians are the same. Lots of talk, no real solutions.
    See, Afghan is exactly what we are talking about.. go back before that.. WHY did they attack us? because we are continuosly in there LAND..if we had left completelyafter the gulf, and left them a lone, they wouldnt be so pissed, hence no Sept 11 acts

    Listen closer to RP though. WHY does he want to do away wih it? because its too big and just throws money away. something needs to be there. but if ts its broke. fix it.. Homeland security, same thing, too big, too many chiefs, noone talks because they want the reckognition for finding out so they get more $, so then no info is passed, so nothing is stopped..

    as for Fed reserve, the COnstitution doesnt reckognize it, it unlawful isnt it? IRS, honestly , i dont know much about that so its easy to out-rgue me on that. I do know that what we have isnt working, and we need a real change.

    The stringest point i can make is that constitutionally, ITS OUR RESPONSABILITY to get rid of the Government if we dont like what its doing.. Its getting to that point..

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge

    See, Afghan is exactly what we are talking about.. go back before that.. WHY did they attack us? because we are continuosly in there LAND..if we had left completelyafter the gulf, and left them a lone, they wouldnt be so pissed, hence no Sept 11 acts

    Listen closer to RP though. WHY does he want to do away wih it? because its too big and just throws money away. something needs to be there. but if ts its broke. fix it.. Homeland security, same thing, too big, too many chiefs, noone talks because they want the reckognition for finding out so they get more $, so then no info is passed, so nothing is stopped..

    as for Fed reserve, the COnstitution doesnt reckognize it, it unlawful isnt it? IRS, honestly , i dont know much about that so its easy to out-rgue me on that. I do know that what we have isnt working, and we need a real change.

    The stringest point i can make is that constitutionally, ITS OUR RESPONSABILITY to get rid of the Government if we dont like what its doing.. Its getting to that point..
    I agree with this. Yet you will call me a commie because I am a democrat.
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    Socialism is killing us all.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    See, Afghan is exactly what we are talking about.. go back before that.. WHY did they attack us? because we are continuosly in there LAND..if we had left completelyafter the gulf, and left them a lone, they wouldnt be so pissed, hence no Sept 11 acts

    Listen closer to RP though. WHY does he want to do away wih it? because its too big and just throws money away. something needs to be there. but if ts its broke. fix it.. Homeland security, same thing, too big, too many chiefs, noone talks because they want the reckognition for finding out so they get more $, so then no info is passed, so nothing is stopped..

    as for Fed reserve, the COnstitution doesnt reckognize it, it unlawful isnt it? IRS, honestly , i dont know much about that so its easy to out-rgue me on that. I do know that what we have isnt working, and we need a real change.

    The stringest point i can make is that constitutionally, ITS OUR RESPONSABILITY to get rid of the Government if we dont like what its doing.. Its getting to that point..
    True. Government should have very little say in our doings..they are using the stock market frauds, and pointing the finger at GWB saying its his fault we are here. Meanwhile Obama is still on his 'campaign' agenda...slandering peoples names and what not, but still not really doing anything...saying government needs to step in and 'help us'. So they control 90% of the banks, they control healthcare and trying to eliminate private sectors, and control the education system. I would say that looks kinda like communism if you ask me...making it difficult for smaller businesses to thrive....while they just keep passing all these bills and keep spending money like mad...and it hasnt done $#@!.


    Technically this whole $#@! would have never started if we never went to the first gulf war. The reason Bin Laden waged war on us was because we stepped into Saudi Arabia to protect them....and him and his followers got enraged saying that how could a muslim country ask for help from a country that supports Israel, instead of trying to fend for theirselves. THAT is the true start behind this whole mess and 9/11 and everything else.

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    Exactly. Federal gov should have little to no say in daily lives. the STATES should have the power. This is howour country was designed to be run. If you didnt like a certain states legislature, you can pickup and move to another one.. the ULTIMATE way to vote..FED. hs overstepped their boundries for years. All you need to do is listen to old Reagan speeches and see how right he was.

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    Reagan was the $#@! back in the day.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Matt@Camber-Toe Click here to enlarge
    Reagan was the $#@! back in the day.
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    FR305 your a complete scumbag for saying i hope you die when your deployed.. Dude served aree country he deserves the up most respect wether you agree or dont agree..

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