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    New Titanium Stud Conversion

    Got this stud conversion from "Ryan Hammond" and these are such great quality that I figured I would take a few pics. Want to save these to put on my new rims...current rim has somehow gotten bent and do not want to put new studs on it.

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    Price?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    Price?
    $250.00 shipped
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    hmmm $62.5 a wheel $12.5 a stud...

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Torgus Click here to enlarge
    hmmm $62.5 a wheel $12.5 a stud...
    Compared to other sets doesn't seem too bad.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Compared to other sets doesn't seem too bad.
    I agree, and they will never corrode or rust.
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    I just priced wheel studs from BMP. With studs and nuts you are at $192 before shipping. These are not priced crazy, they are not cheap, but you get what you pay for.

    Can you give me the order info? I think I am going to get a set for the shop car.

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    no kidding- lemme know.

    I wonder about galling coming off/on and/or issues with corrosion of hub/wheel
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alex@ABRhouston Click here to enlarge
    no kidding- lemme know.

    I wonder about galling coming off/on and/or issues with corrosion of hub/wheel
    These will not corrode, he has sold a lot of sets and not one instance yet. I broke steel ones....I have no idea why LOL!! So I got these.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    I just priced wheel studs from BMP. With studs and nuts you are at $192 before shipping. These are not priced crazy, they are not cheap, but you get what you pay for.

    Can you give me the order info? I think I am going to get a set for the shop car.
    Here ya go Tony, He also makes flywheel bolts and a host of other things. I think these would go nicely on a stage 3 car Click here to enlarge

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    Here is some other stuff he does as well as the stud conversions.

    http://www.mye28.com/viewtopic.php?t...d714919276e8ea
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by robc1976 Click here to enlarge
    These will not corrode, he has sold a lot of sets and not one instance yet. I broke steel ones....I have no idea why LOL!! So I got these.


    Im not talking about the actual Ti corroding, I was talking about the Ti galling or having issues with threads/nuts from the material being so unforgiving.
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    Just talked to Ryan, he actually was very hesitant to sell me a set as he said at the power levels a stage 2 or 3 car can produce he is not confident these will not fail. That was enough to turn me back to steel. Sucks those look awesome and are light as S#*^

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alex@ABRhouston Click here to enlarge
    Im not talking about the actual Ti corroding, I was talking about the Ti galling or having issues with threads/nuts from the material being so unforgiving.
    Oh, never thought of that.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    Just talked to Ryan, he actually was very hesitant to sell me a set as he said at the power levels a stage 2 or 3 car can produce he is not confident these will not fail. That was enough to turn me back to steel. Sucks those look awesome and are light as S#*^
    Most of the steel Vendors said the same to me, I only have 500Hp and they all said they couldn't be confident they wouldn't break or guarantee it. It is a way to cover there butts LOL!!
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    When my steel studs failed I beliew it was the lugs, aluminium lugs or possible studs didn't have "sheer strength.

    Steel studs:

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    Here is what Ryan said to me:

    Even Titanium has it's limits though it's some tough stuff - from my
    initial analysis and testing, these studs/nuts could potentially fail
    just before the best steels would. It is a rarety for proper steel studs
    to break however- unless you have a really powerful car (yours is) or
    do a standing burnout perhaps. Nearly any aftermarket performance part
    maker typically wont guarantee their product precisely because they
    can't know how you will use it or how powerful your car is.

    Having said that, I've sold dozens of sets of these so far over the last few years, and haven't heard of any issues.
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    and on another note- a wheel lug bolt (steel) stretches, which is how bolts create torque and hold on the wheel.


    when they get over torqued/head stripped off from the monkeys @ discount tire or whatever.... I literally drill a hole down the middle of them. I then just drill into the base of the taper until it kisses the face of the rim. they come right out (as long as the threads arent wasted causing additional issues lol)

    It would seem to me, that when you put a titanium bolt on something-STRICT attention to cleanliness of the mounting surface, and torque would have to be maintained....

    IF not (since the Ti doesnt stretch) I could see the bolt loosing "torque" if the wheel shifts or settles.
    I mean I guess that works for every bolt used with Ti?
    Titanium material seems kick ass, but fasteners? I'm somewhat skeptical to use due to the material.

    Please dont think Im trying to pick the product apart, I love messing with people when I do a transmission or engine and its got a big box of aluminum bolts and they freak out from the weight of a E18x70 bolt Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alex@ABRhouston Click here to enlarge
    and on another note- a wheel lug bolt (steel) stretches, which is how bolts create torque and hold on the wheel.


    when they get over torqued/head stripped off from the monkeys @ discount tire or whatever.... I literally drill a hole down the middle of them. I then just drill into the base of the taper until it kisses the face of the rim. they come right out (as long as the threads arent wasted causing additional issues lol)

    It would seem to me, that when you put a titanium bolt on something-STRICT attention to cleanliness of the mounting surface, and torque would have to be maintained....

    IF not (since the Ti doesnt stretch) I could see the bolt loosing "torque" if the wheel shifts or settles.
    I mean I guess that works for every bolt used with Ti?
    Titanium material seems kick ass, but fasteners? I'm somewhat skeptical to use due to the material.

    Please dont think Im trying to pick the product apart, I love messing with people when I do a transmission or engine and its got a big box of aluminum bolts and they freak out from the weight of a E18x70 bolt Click here to enlarge
    More info the better man, if you think these are unsafe I will not use them....I got them to be safer......beginning to think stud conversions suck...never had a issue until I went with a stud conversion.
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    a stud conversion IS nice, and I like the idea for a race/track car to get the wheels on/off faster.... in fact all of our race cars we prep and mess with have them.... and a bunch of heavy street/track cars have them too....... but I think a steel stud would STILL be gauged on stretch yield (on how malleable the material is) and its ability to be cycled over and over like that.

    my issue (theory or concern or whatever you want to call it) is on such a critical fastener like a wheel lug that IS NOT IN DOUBLE SHEAR, if the lug stud/bolt/whatever doesn't have a stretch yield; and the material (rim or hub) shifts in any way, the torque could be compromised due to the Ti not being a very forgiving material.



    now, if it is in double shear..... I say game on. the nut is now just on there to keep the fastener on/together. the load is now in the shank of the bolt vs. using the threads to stretch the bolt.

    Thats how these aluminum bolts (for the most part) are surviving on these cars, even for transmission bolts. They have a torque yield that allows them to stretch (obviously more than a steel bolt) and hold very successfully and be incredibly light.

    sorry- rambling on again lol
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alex@ABRhouston Click here to enlarge
    a stud conversion IS nice, and I like the idea for a race/track car to get the wheels on/off faster.... in fact all of our race cars we prep and mess with have them.... and a bunch of heavy street/track cars have them too....... but I think a steel stud would STILL be gauged on stretch yield (on how malleable the material is) and its ability to be cycled over and over like that.

    my issue (theory or concern or whatever you want to call it) is on such a critical fastener like a wheel lug that IS NOT IN DOUBLE SHEAR, if the lug stud/bolt/whatever doesn't have a stretch yield; and the material (rim or hub) shifts in any way, the torque could be compromised due to the Ti not being a very forgiving material.



    now, if it is in double shear..... I say game on. the nut is now just on there to keep the fastener on/together. the load is now in the shank of the bolt vs. using the threads to stretch the bolt.

    Thats how these aluminum bolts (for the most part) are surviving on these cars, even for transmission bolts. They have a torque yield that allows them to stretch (obviously more than a steel bolt) and hold very successfully and be incredibly light.

    sorry- rambling on again lol
    VERY good info right here.

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    oh awesome. considering i just spent $125.95+$59 +post for a stud kit from ECS (H&R studs, ECS nuts), that's such a good price -_-
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    He does make some nice Ti stuff.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 0-60Motorsports Click here to enlarge
    He does make some nice Ti stuff.
    I have to agree!
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