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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by inlineS54B32 Click here to enlarge
    Good point, that's the problem - what can be done/who will do it/etc...

    It will take either a lot of people (majority of the country) to put their foot down and say enough, or one person with power to rewrite the books. I think we honestly are at the point where the majority is not happy with the way things are running behind the scenes, but the problem is actually doing something about it.

    I am not calling for a civil war or anything like this, but am honestly curious how things like this (coups) happened in the past. Click here to enlarge
    A coup/revolution happens when things get too bad for the masses to take any longer. Welfare is keeping them fed and entertainment is keeping them distracted. The government is also slowly disarming the population to make any serious change practically an impossibility as their superior firepower will put down any revolt very quickly.

    It sure is going to be interesting to see what happens.
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    Looks like the next move is to to declare the NSA rogue status.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...chiefs-testify

    It will be interesting to see who the (un) Intelligence committees of the congressional houses blame for their total lack of oversight!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by yage202 Click here to enlarge
    Looks like the next move is to to declare the NSA rogue status.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...chiefs-testify

    It will be interesting to see who the (un) Intelligence committees of the congressional houses blame for their total lack of oversight!
    Ah convenient. So Obama is saying, "Oh I had no idea what was going on" and now everyone is just covering their asses.
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    Obama, Congressional intelligence committees, the appointees to the agencies involved, unelected bureaucrats where performance doesn't really matter.........

    If you do ever have kids, watch how hot potato is played with this issue!

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    ^^ nice.
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    Exclamation NSA phone surveillance program likely unconstitutional, federal judge rules

    NSA phone surveillance program likely unconstitutional, federal judge rules


    A federal judge in Washington ruled on Monday that the bulk collection of Americans’ telephone records by the National Security Agency is likely to violate the US constitution, in the most significant legal setback for the agency since the publication of the first surveillance disclosures by the whistleblower Edward Snowden.

    Judge Richard Leon declared that the mass collection of metadata probably violates the fourth amendment, which prohibits unreasonable searches and seizures, and was "almost Orwellian" in its scope. In a judgment replete with literary swipes against the NSA, he said James Madison, the architect of the US constitution, would be "aghast" at the scope of the agency’s collection of Americans' communications data.

    The ruling, by the US district court for the District of Columbia, is a blow to the Obama administration, and sets up a legal battle that will drag on for months, almost certainly destined to end up in the supreme court. It was welcomed by campaigners pressing to rein in the NSA, and by Snowden, who issued a rare public statement saying it had vindicated his disclosures. It is also likely to influence other legal challenges to the NSA, currently working their way through federal courts.

    More here: http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...tutional-judge

    Nice to see that at least one judge is still ruling on the side of liberty.
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    Read about that but I really don't think the NSA gives a damn about the law.

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    Game over: http://news.yahoo.com/nsa-eyes-encry...225306575.html

    Washington (AFP) - The US National Security Agency is making strides toward building a "quantum computer" that could break nearly any kind of encryption, The Washington Post reported Thursday.

    The Post said leaked documents from fugitive ex-NSA contractor Edward Snowden indicate the computer would allow the secret intelligence agency to break encryption used to protect banking, medical, business and government records around the world.

    Quantum computing has been a goal among commercial firms such as IBM because it could harness the power of atoms and molecules, vastly increasing speed and security of computers and other devices.

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    Even the NSA can't ignore the laws of physics, and the laws of quantum mechanics aren't really understood yet. A stable quantum computer is at least 10 years away, and that's assuming one can even be created. By that time, we will be able to use 4,096 bit or higher encryption keys that would take even a quantum computer a large amount of time to decrypt.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by whoosh Click here to enlarge
    Even the NSA can't ignore the laws of physics, and the laws of quantum mechanics aren't really understood yet. A stable quantum computer is at least 10 years away, and that's assuming one can even be created. By that time, we will be able to use 4,096 bit or higher encryption keys that would take even a quantum computer a large amount of time to decrypt.
    Who knows what they have. I don't even understand how a quantum computer would work. I started looking into it and my brain melted.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    I don't even understand how a quantum computer would work. I started looking into it and my brain melted.
    Same here. With all the uncertainty principles and other goofy things, I don't see how they would ever get a QC to give a consistent result.
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