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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by GT2 Click here to enlarge
    Read my first post and you will see my view.
    They are charging as being MBZ driver not for the part cost.
    Nobody takes into account the engineering. I'm sure Weistec can explain why their downpipe solution is different than the others on the market. All downpipes aren't created equal.

    If the pricing is a problem for you... it isn't for you.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by nawlinstornado Click here to enlarge
    Kleemann released their pipes a year ago, and they cost $1295. They are just stainless, but they are a direct bolt-on. No cutting, welding, etc. And since RENNtech has posted that the stock up-pipe/test-pipe (whatever you want to call the one that bolts to the turbo outlet) flows just fine based on their testing, no need to reach up into the engine bay and replace those. Are the Kleemann pipes as attractive as the Weistec? No, not even close. Is the quality there? I have no reason to believe otherwise. Performance? Looks to be about the same.
    So in the end, youre paying for appearance. If style and finish are worth $3400 to you, great! If all you care about is performance, then it just looks like a waste of money. Different points-of-view, and I carry the latter.[/FONT]
    You're wrong.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Nobody takes into account the engineering. I'm sure Weistec can explain why their downpipe solution is different than the others on the market. All downpipes aren't created equal.

    If the pricing is a problem for you... it isn't for you.
    Ok, i'll set back and realax in the Yacht waiting for the poor guys to be released.
    It is too funny to get bad rep. for just saying your opinion.
    Full of $#@!.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by GT2 Click here to enlarge
    Ok, i'll set back and realax in the Yacht waiting for the poor guys to be released.
    It is too funny to get bad rep. for just saying your opinion.
    Full of $#@!.

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    But please tell me what is full of what?

    Nice yacht though, not often I get jealous.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    You're wrong.
    Care to comment as to why?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by nawlinstornado Click here to enlarge
    Care to comment as to why?
    Yes, regarding the design and the quality. I really wish @Weistec would just explain why their pipes differ.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Yes, regarding the design and the quality. I really wish @Weistec would just explain why their pipes differ.
    Yes, @Weistec, please tell us more. Beyond the absolutely gorgeous fit and finish, what more is offered by your downpipe/midpipe than Kleemann's or other competitors?

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    Any 1/4 mile runs?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by GhanemMBN Click here to enlarge
    Any 1/4 mile runs?
    Not yet, someone will have to get out to the track but it's getting warm here in California.

    Stage 2 or 2.5 E9X M3 S65 V8 supercharger kit for sale
    : http://www.boostaddict.com/showthrea...r-kit-for-sale

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    looks like boost logic has copied these now and selling them for more than 1/2 price Click here to enlarge

    boostlogic.com/product/mercedes-m157-stainless-downpipes-and-midpipes/

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by gaspam Click here to enlarge
    looks like boost logic has copied these now and selling them for more than 1/2 price Click here to enlarge

    boostlogic.com/product/mercedes-m157-stainless-downpipes-and-midpipes/
    Is Boostlogic known for copying or undercutting?

    I mean, definitely, it looks similar but there will be a similarity among M157 downpipes won't there?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Is Boostlogic known for copying or undercutting?

    I mean, definitely, it looks similar but there will be a similarity among M157 downpipes won't there?
    not sure as i never new them to be in the benz market but they do have a couple of stupid fast GTRs

    but it does look like a direct copy

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by gaspam Click here to enlarge
    but it does look like a direct copy
    You are not the only one who thinks so.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    You are not the only one who thinks so.
    i emailed them to see if they fit awd and they said they have not tried them on awd yet, so that's probably a "no", without getting some low profile motor mounts or cutting the pipe ...

    also asked them in follow up email if they had and before and after dynos and waiting to hear back (to see if they actually work as well as weistecs)

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    My opinion.....
    Weistec themselves have not had any real world dynos that show anything remotely near their in house dyno numbers. Even their tune only numbers are more along 540-580rwhp real world. Which is NOT bad, just saying the gains are not as high their in house dyno shows.
    I have yet to see a single M157 with any kind of bolt on (turbos not included) hit above 640rwhp

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    Also I think Weistec's price point is actually not terrible for the product, however its grossly inflated for the RWD models considering the competition out there. They are the only ones who make a product for the AWD crowd that does not involve cutting and splicing anything, just remove and replace parts. However on the RWD W212, the motor mounts etc etc is not an issue so its being replaced....well for replacement sake cos the AWD needs it.

    Kinda like the AMS cooling setup that costs the same for the RWD vs the AWD. The AWD versions do not need the second pump and that many extra components as the RWD does. But its priced the same making it almost worthless to buy the cooling for the AWD (you can buy just the larger HE, most cost effective and will probably do about 90% of what the whole kit will do). However the whole kit is needed on the RWD version.

    With time, pricing will come around to where the market deems acceptable. Just takes some time.

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    I need to spend more time reading. This is their first upgrade. Their new W.4 157 upgrade is one of the best we have seen

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by kponti Click here to enlarge
    My opinion.....
    Weistec themselves have not had any real world dynos that show anything remotely near their in house dyno numbers. Even their tune only numbers are more along 540-580rwhp real world. Which is NOT bad, just saying the gains are not as high their in house dyno shows.
    I have yet to see a single M157 with any kind of bolt on (turbos not included) hit above 640rwhp
    Care to show those graphs?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by kponti Click here to enlarge
    My opinion.....
    Weistec themselves have not had any real world dynos that show anything remotely near their in house dyno numbers. Even their tune only numbers are more along 540-580rwhp real world. Which is NOT bad, just saying the gains are not as high their in house dyno shows.
    I have yet to see a single M157 with any kind of bolt on (turbos not included) hit above 640rwhp
    don't hold ur breath,upgraded w3 ams intakes ams cooling full weistec dp exhast straight piped n puts down 650whp dj numbers,thats all u can do to this car except going real turbo upgrade n not just a hybrid

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by gzim335 Click here to enlarge
    don't hold ur breath,upgraded w3 ams intakes ams cooling full weistec dp exhast straight piped n puts down 650whp dj numbers,thats all u can do to this car except going real turbo upgrade n not just a hybrid
    So.... the S63TU is actually the better motor?

    M157 guys aren't beating their chests hard these days.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    So.... the S63TU is actually the better motor?

    M157 guys aren't beating their chests hard these days.
    m157 is nowhere near s63tu,we were fooled in the early m5 days

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by gzim335 Click here to enlarge
    m157 is nowhere near s63tu,we were fooled in the early m5 days
    I know. It's just funny how it turned out once the S63TU could be tuned.

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