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    Rumor: Mercedes Planning Direct BMW M3 Coupe Rival with C63 AMG Coupe

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    Rumor has it Mercedes is preparing to go after the BMW M3 Coupe with a coupe of their own. The C class coupe would share the drivetrain from the C63 sedan which would mean it would get the same 6.2 liter V8. If Mercedes shoved their new twin turbo V8 in this thing, they would instantly dominate the landscape but most likely be stepping on the toes of their more expensive AMG models which is why they won't do it.

    This car is obviously aimed at the M3 and will clearly outmuscle it along with the RS5 which doesn't really have much muscle. The CTS-V coupe clearly would also be one of the targets. The car will not have a dual clutch transmission unfortunately which is a bit of set back. Note, much of this information comes from Autocar so don't take this as confirmation of a specs just yet, things may change.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Mercedes shoved their new twin turbo V8 in this thing, they would instantly dominate the landscape but most likely be stepping on the toes of their more expensive AMG models which is why they won't do it.
    Why wouldn't they put in the new 5.5L tt V8? They have been using the same powerplant up and down the AMG line for a while now.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
    Why wouldn't they put in the new 5.5L tt V8? They have been using the same powerplant up and down the AMG line for a while now.
    They don't always use the same powerplant.

    SLK55 and CLK55 are examples of that. If they give the C class the same motor the big boys are getting it will eat them alive in performance.

    They would have to detune it like the current C63 or do something to maintain hierarchy. In the case of the E55 they gave it a lower hp rating than the CL and S to make it appear it had less power on paper.

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    Ill stick with BMW.. Just my opinion..

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    I see them putting the turbo in eventually. Even though these aren't Prius's, the turbos do get better gas mileage. I think gas mileage is a big reason all these manufacturers are moving towards tubos to make big HP.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BattaM3 Click here to enlarge
    Ill stick with BMW.. Just my opinion..
    If the next M3 has a TT 6-cylinder, I won't be. The C-class AMG will be the big boy on the block, with the TTV8. Might be time to move up to a M5.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
    If the next M3 has a TT 6-cylinder, I won't be. The C-class AMG will be the big boy on the block, with the TTV8. Might be time to move up to a M5.
    I would agree, if Merc sticks a TT-V8 in this I don't want some tiny 6 cylinder, I want the big, bad V8 TT.

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    This should be interesting. Can't wait to see how BMW responds to this.

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    it looks very nice

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    Would be nice, but I wonder if it would clash with the CLK's?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by GT3 Click here to enlarge
    Would be nice, but I wonder if it would clash with the CLK's?
    Hmmm, I don't think so. CLK is E platform, this would be C.

    Definitely some overlap though.

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    there is no E Class coupe AMG to give way to this C63 Coupe.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
    there is no E Class coupe AMG to give way to this C63 Coupe.
    What makes you think they won't do an AMG version of the E coupe though?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    What makes you think they won't do an AMG version of the E coupe though?
    They announced it a while ago.
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    Sooo ugly compared to the m cars... Kind of like Bleh...
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
    They announced it a while ago.
    Well then, damn.

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    I totally expect the M157 TT V8 is going to end up in all of the AMG cars (except the V12 ones obviously) within the next 5 years. Including the C class. They'll de tune it by running less boost or something, and it will be easy to fix that.

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    If any TT V8 makes it's way into the C-class it will be the 4.6L variant. They are only running 1 bar of boost to make 469HP and (I found out 2 days ago) these cars are Tunable Click here to enlarge Will confirm on the 5.5 shortly but the 4.6s are good to go, for us anyway.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Hmmm, I don't think so. CLK is E platform, this would be C.
    CLK is based on the C platform, not the E. w209 CLK was based on the w203 C platform, for example.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM Click here to enlarge
    CLK is based on the C platform, not the E. w209 CLK was based on the w203 C platform, for example.
    Not anymore. Their mid range coupe is an E. There are no plans to do a CLK this generation.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fstop7 Click here to enlarge
    Not anymore. Their mid range coupe is an E. There are no plans to do a CLK this generation.
    I didn't say anything about the E Coupe. Neither did the post I was replying to.

    In any event, even the current "E Coupe" (c207) is based on the C Class platform (w204), regardless of how MB chose to market it.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM Click here to enlarge
    CLK is based on the C platform, not the E. w209 CLK was based on the w203 C platform, for example.
    That is correct, I should have been more specific in saying the mid range coupe is now an E class platform.

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    I could have swore there was an E63 convertible and E63 coupe at the Javits autoshow last spring...

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    That is correct, I should have been more specific in saying the mid range coupe is now an E class platform.
    In case my last post was somehow too vague or unclear: the E Coupe is not built from the E Class platform (w212), it is built off of the C Class platform (w204).

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM Click here to enlarge
    In case my last post was somehow too vague or unclear: the E Coupe is not built from the E Class platform (w212), it is built off of the C Class platform (w204).
    As I understand it, the C207 which is the chassis code for the coupe is built on the W212 E Sedan platform with which it shares approximately 60% of its components.

    the C207 E-Class Coupe comprises up to 60% of the mechanical components of the W212 sedan and hence in turn has the same new and standard features of the sedan.
    How would that make it W204?

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