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    Both Jessie Diakis and Jeremy Fleming both worked in the technical department at Powerchip prior to leaving our company.

    Both left on 'bad terms'.

    We have some specific details we are happy to share if it is permitted and relevant.

    I don't think 'Raz' from 'Gintani' knows the full details about what has happened in the past. He has provided information in this thread that is incorrect, and we are happy to provide correct information.

    Most of the information to date is being passed privately between people.

    That would allow Alex Marukian the 'owner' of 'Gintani' to give us his perspective.

    If the community is interested, we would be happy to post information about the issues raised, and ask Mr Marukian some questions that remain unanswered.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Powerchip Click here to enlarge
    Both Jessie Diakis and Jeremy Fleming both worked in the technical department at Powerchip prior to leaving our company.

    Both left on 'bad terms'.

    We have some specific details we are happy to share if it is permitted and relevant.

    I don't think 'Raz' from 'Gintani' knows the full details about what has happened in the past. He has provided information in this thread that is incorrect, and we are happy to provide correct information.

    Most of the information to date is being passed privately between people.

    If the community is interested, we would be happy to post information about the issues raised, and ask Gintani some questions that remain unanswered.

    That would allow Alex Marukian the 'owner' of 'Gintani' to give us his perspective.
    You are a supporting vendor here and do not need to ask for permission. If you wish to share your perspective, we won't stop you or stand in your way of doing so.

    This is a very confusing situation and if you wish to make it more clear by providing relevant information on the topic at hand, by all means, do so.

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    Thanks for the OK to post about it Sticky.

    On a lot of other forums, a thread like this would simply disappear, never to be seen again, and if it was ever mentioned that it was deleted, that gets deleted as well Click here to enlarge

    Unfortunately, we need to delay a little about what we post.

    Alex Marukian from Gintani called our office today and has threatened us with defamation proceedings.

    Gintani's lawyer apparently is Jose Manuel de Castro from www.decastrolawgroup.com and it is said that he is a specialist in defamation law.

    I was told that Alex told Cheri at our office today that he has allocated $300,000 towards suing us for defamation.

    So we need to have our lawyer have a look over our response before we post it.

    While that is happening, it is probably worth looking at the court documents regarding the issue , that way people can see what Corey Dillon said happened, and what Gintani say happened. As you will read, there is a lot more about the court case than just the work Gintani attempted on the Ferrari. Corey says that he 'invested' hundreds of thousands of dollars, and the documents outline the financial trading figures for Gintani Miniworks Inc.

    Here is a link to the download of the PDF copies of the court documents......


    http://www.youshare.com/Corey_J_Dill...0c7f2.pdf.html
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    Powerchip,
    Do you have Gintani's preliminary objections?
    Thanks

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    Im not sure what the issue is, I didnt speak to him, and it wasn't communicated to me what he feels the issue is, I was just told that he has an issue with us posting. I am expecting a cease and desist letter to arrive by registered mail from his lawyer Jose Manuel de Castro any day.

    I'm sure Alex has read the post, I guess thats why he called us, he can answer on here what his 'objections' are

    The last time I spoke to Alex on the phone a couple of months ago, he told me he never wanted to speak to me ever again, so I think communicating in writing is a lot safer.

    Last time we spoke, he also told me he caries a gun for 'protection', so it was clear to me that I need to be careful with what we say and do. He has communicated to other Powerchip staff members on other occasions regarding his gun, so I dont doubt he owns one. I am sure it is licensed and all above board. He didnt tell me what kind it is.
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    Does this mean we all get big discounts on Gintani S/C kits soon?

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    Here is a little piece of advice;

    everyone be careful with what they say here.
    Gintani sounds like some thugs.

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    I personally find it very un-classy that Powerchip is chimeing in here the way they are.

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    If anyone does not have a PDF viewer, I have provided a copy of the text from the amended claim document.

    Edit by admin: Documents are available in PDF as stated
    Last edited by Powerchip; 08-06-2010 at 05:51 AM. Reason: This post was modified without my consent or authority by the Bimmerboost moderator after he consulted with Alex from Gintani

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Powerchip Click here to enlarge
    Im not sure what the issue is, I didnt speak to him, and it wasn't communicated to me what he feels the issue is, I was just told that he has an issue with us posting. I am expecting a cease and desist letter to arrive by registered mail from his lawyer Jose Manuel de Castro any day.

    I'm sure Alex has read the post, I guess thats why he called us, he can answer on here what his 'objections' are

    The last time I spoke to Alex on the phone a couple of months ago, he told me he never wanted to speak to me ever again, so I think communicating in writing is a lot safer.

    Last time we spoke, he also told me he caries a gun for 'protection', so it was clear to me that I need to be careful with what we say and do. He has communicated to other Powerchip staff members on other occasions regarding his gun, so I dont doubt he owns one. I am sure it is licensed and all above board. He didnt tell me what kind it is.
    Wayne, yes, the post is creating a bit of strife.

    Please check your e-mail.

    We are more than happy to have an open forum with all details but we also can't have vendors here fighting amongst themselves and that does violate the rules. The case documents are public domain and available for anyone to see.

    We would like to diffuse the tensions here and have our vendors get along for the benefit of the community. We understand you have personal experience with Jesse and it seems he has been the bad apple who has created problems for both Powerchip and Gintani. Furthering this issue serves no relevant purpose.

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    Hi Sticky,

    I know I can trust you to remain impartial, and that you do not favour one supporting sponsor over another. Bimmerboost has set the bar very high when it comes to allowing free discussion. I have no intention of 'fighting' with a former vendor that we provided tuning for in the past. I promise to be professional, but truthful. But I am interested in continuing this discussion in a professional way, and by providing factual information. Isn't that why people come to your forum instead of the others?

    We all know what happened when a moderator on another forum got a supercharger kit at a discount, and then moderated the forum in such a way as to limit discussion or to push their own agenda.

    Thanks for your support in keeping this forum open to public debate without favour to one vendor.

    I have never seen a single instance where you have moderated this forum in the same ways of the other forum, and I think that people here respect that you do everything within your power to uphold free speech and the First amendment. And to not take sides when there are important issues to discuss.

    When you said in the post above....

    "If you wish to share your perspective, we won't stop you or stand in your way of doing so...and if you wish to make it more clear by providing relevant information on the topic at hand, by all means, do so. "

    I think that I have done that, and I agree to accept the rules of the forum. If you think I have broken them, let me know and I will revise anything said that is against the rules.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Powerchip Click here to enlarge
    Hi Sticky,

    I know I can trust you to remain impartial, and that you do not favor one supporting sponsor over another. Bimmerbost has set the bar very high when it comes to allowing free discusion. I have no intention of 'fighting' with a former vendor that we provided tuning for in the past. But I am interested in continuing this discussion in a professional way, and by providing factual information. Isnt that why people come to your forum instead of the others?

    Thanks for your support in keeping this forum open to public debate without favor to one vendor.
    You are absolutely correct, no favoritism, sponsors are treated equally. However, we also need all our vendors to support equally as we do have an inequality as of right now that can not continue.

    We may be setting the bar too high as it does come with its own set of disadvantages in these situations Click here to enlarge I completely understand you have no intention of fighting with one of your former dealers and if you do have any information on some of the issues with Jesse we would definitely like the details as that seems to be the one common factor of discord here.

    We do appreciate open public debate but we do also hold our vendors to standards we do not expect or require the users to follow. We therefore will not host court documents but as you alluded to will not stop users from browsing .pdf records which we also have no legal right to stop them from doing so.

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    Thanks Sticky.

    I think that by remaining impartial, you gain huge respect from the community.

    This is the only forum that I know of that will allow free discussion.

    I dont envy your job, you have to keep all the supporting vendors happy even though they seldom see 'eye to eye'

    Does anyone else here support Sticky in allowing free discussion, as long as it is within the rules?

    Thanks again Sticky, I know it must be hard to resist the pressure that has been placed on you. Alex has called our office five times, and its like midnight or 1am in socal, I can only imagine what you are going through right now.

    By your actions, you have supported the principle reason why people come to Bimmerboost, they know that you are fair, and do not associate sponsorship monies or discounted products from sponsors with controling what information is published and what is not

    Thanks again for supporting the members and the vendors to engage in free debate that is not influenced by fear or favour.
    Last edited by Powerchip; 08-06-2010 at 04:14 AM.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Powerchip Click here to enlarge
    Thanks Sticky.

    I think that by remaining impartial, you gain huge respect from the community.

    This is the only forum that I know of that will allow free discussion.

    I dont envy your job, you have to keep all the supporting vendors happy even though they seldom see 'eye to eye'

    Does anyone else here support Sticky in allowing free discussion, as long as it is within the rules?

    Thanks again Sticky, I know it must be hard to resist the pressure that has been placed on you. Alex has called our office five times, I can only imagine what you are going through right now.

    Thanks again for supporting the members and the vendors to engage in free debate that is not influenced by favoring anyone.
    As I have always stated, I favor the user here and will give the user the best I can.

    Yes, this is the only forum that will allow free discussion and so it shall remain. The users will definitely not complain about that and support it, that is why they are here.

    It is very difficult to keep all the supporting vendors happy but I always do my absolute best and will continue to do so. However, I am showing Powerchip favoritism and substantial leeway at this point which is not necessarily fair to the other vendors. As I stated, that can not continue unless all vendors on the same playing field. Please check your e-mail Wayne.

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    Hi Sticky,

    You have deleted the text explaining what Corey Dillon deposed about his experience with Gintani.

    You didnt ask me if I agreed to its deletion. I dont agree. I posted it so boardmembers can easily reference the content of an important document that explains very clearly what Corey Dillon thinks.

    That was not my opinion, simply an extract in text form of the ammended claim document.

    I dont think that is in the spirit of free speech, or allowing the facts to be easily available.

    Can you direct me to what rule was broken?

    The text is from a court document that you know is on the public record.

    Can you tell the board why you deleted it?

    Have you discussed this thread with Alex from Gintani?

    Was Alex supportive of the deletion of the text?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Powerchip Click here to enlarge
    Hi Sticky,

    You have deleted the text explaining what Corey Dillon deposed about his experience with Gintani.

    This was not my opinion, simply an extract in text form of the ammended claim.

    I dont think that is in the spirit of free speech, or allowing the facts to be easily available.

    Can you direct me to what rule was broken?

    The text is from a court document that you know is on the public record.

    Can you tell the board why you deleted it?

    Have you discussed this thread with Alex from Gintani?

    Was Alex supportive of the deletion of the text?
    I simply did as stated which is that I will not host the documents. The PDF is available to view so nothing was actually deleted. I'm sure everyone has Adobe Acrobat or can get it. Not trampling on your right to free speech, simply protecting BimmerBoost as we don't want to give the ok for hosting potentially sensitive courtroom information here.

    Yes, the text is from a court document that is public record and the public record is up to be viewed. I simply removed it as I don't want to encourage vendors using our servers to host court documents regarding other vendors. The link is there to where a third party hosts it Click here to enlarge

    I have discussed this thread with Alex and several others. My decision on editing the text to refer to the actual file itself was done independently of any request or action on the part of Alex. In actuality, I am catering to Powerchip in this instance by making sure it is clear to everyone there is no favoritism and simply keeping BimmerBoost neutral. By hosting the document, I think we would be crossing a line that would not be in the best interest of any vendor and would be favoring Powerchip blatantly which would go against the spirit of neutrality and openness that you have so cordially mentioned your fondness for.

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    1. this is a 2 year old case, nice move PC...you should stick to just promoting yourself and stay positive instead of going after people...makes you look like a P.O.S.

    2. If anyone actually knows Alex or Arno, they would know that they wouldnt ever pull any kind of scam or do any shady business like that. They are very honorable guys and if you do business with them they will make sure you are taken care of. This is why anyone who has done business with them will support them to the maximum. They will know that gintani will back up anything they do, take care of any problems that arise. Both of them are genuine, honest, and have great character this is the reason i go back to them and always recommend them. I wont give my car to anyone, but I might be looking into doing some stuff with the GT3 and ill will be leaving it with Alex for a few days, there would not be any other shop i would trust, not just doing their job but taking care of an issue if one came up and I know it would be dealt with in an immediate and responsible manner.

    3. The root of their shop is from PASSION and Enthusiasm for cars, not finances. Obviously everyone is in the game to make money as well. But they would never rip anyone off.
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    Ya I'm with Sammy on this one. I think its funny the people bringing this stuff up really has nothing to gain for one and its sad this is the best they can find to dig up. I think Gintani got screwed and so did the Ferrari owner but $#@! happens the fact is all their customers these days dont complain or have reason to.

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    Yep, as I said, this is making Powerchip look worse in my eyes the way they are SO EXTREMELY interested in it.

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    Actually the rep for POWERCHIP here has been very professional.

    What document was posted that is supposedly making them look like a POS?
    Or was it the phone call from Gintani threatening a law suit?

    Was the document related to an ILL-RELATION between the guys at Gintani and Powerchip?
    Or did the rep from Powerchip know where this document was and provided it, based on the topic at hand.

    Does Powerchip do any tuning that COMPETES with the stuff Gintani is doing?
    Are these two tuners competetive?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by milkt Click here to enlarge
    Actually the rep for POWERCHIP here has been very professional.

    What document was posted that is supposedly making them look like a POS?
    Or was it the phone call from Gintani threatening a law suit?

    Was the document related to an ILL-RELATION between the guys at Gintani and Powerchip?
    Or did the rep from Powerchip know where this document was and provided it, based on the topic at hand.

    Does Powerchip do any tuning that COMPETES with the stuff Gintani is doing?
    Are these two tuners competetive?
    Gintani isn't doing any tuning and once carried Powerchip software.

    The common factor here is that Jesse, who is responsible for this whole mess, worked at Powerchip and was a partner at Gintani at one point. He is not welcome in both places and left both on bad terms, that should tell everyone what they need to know.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Gintani isn't doing any tuning and once carried Powerchip software.

    The common factor here is that Jesse, who is responsible for this whole mess, worked at Powerchip and was a partner at Gintani at one point. He is not welcome in both places and left both on bad terms, that should tell everyone what they need to know.
    So why is Gintani so pissy with Powerchip?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by milkt Click here to enlarge
    So why is Gintani so pissy with Powerchip?
    Pissy in what sense? I don't think they have anything against Powerchip, they each do their own thing.

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    IDK

    I couldn've sworn I had read some posts here about people threatening with guns and some tough guys cussing at people...

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    Who were those people?

    The "m5 board conspiracy.." strand....
    is leaning Powerchip against Gintani.. isn't it?
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    I believe Gintani simply fears that a perfectly neutral discussion could become a place where competitors and those who support their competitors come to unload negative opinions regarding Gintani. I am not saying that this type of behavior has happened yet, but with the way the majority of discussions on these forums go, it is a warranted fear. I completely understand Gintani's action; these days, it's better to tread with caution on the internet forums.

    Sticky is amazing at providing information and allowing everyone to voice their opinions, and I am sure that he will continue to support this discussion in a civil and impartial manner. Note how he still left the PDF files accessible...

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