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    Hoping they deliver as well.

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    Hope its true, but not sure I would hold my breath on this result. Dyno posted is 4th gear pull on a 5 speed trans to create artificially high number. Usually done in 3rd if not mistaken. Dyno numbers can be manipulated. How about a video and timeslip from the track. BTW, did they ever post any 1/4 mile numbers for the great white hope EV12?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by AMGSR Click here to enlarge
    Hope its true, but not sure I would hold my breath on this result. Dyno posted is 4th gear pull on a 5 speed trans to create artificially high number. Usually done in 3rd if not mistaken. Dyno numbers can be manipulated. How about a video and timeslip from the track. BTW, did they ever post any 1/4 mile numbers for the great white hope EV12?
    On the 5 speed MB/AMG trans, 4th is the 1:1 gear - it shouldn't create an "artificially high" number. People only dyno the 5 speed in 3rd if they're avoiding a factory-tune speed limiter.

    Yes, though, agree - dyno numbers can be manipulated. The reality in today's tuning market from what I can tell, is that if a handful of kits are in customers' hands, and they've dyno'd at independent facilities near wherever they're at, and the results come back the same as advertised by the company... you can believe the numbers aren't just "marketing" and are solid. Until then... there's always a healthy skepticism applied... fortunately or unfortunately, that's the way it seems to be.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM Click here to enlarge
    On the 5 speed MB/AMG trans, 4th is the 1:1 gear - it shouldn't create an "artificially high" number. People only dyno the 5 speed in 3rd if they're avoiding a factory-tune speed limiter.
    This correct.

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    Just was at Speedriven's site...not sure I like the new design, but they are also listing the highest package as 800 hp only...they got rid of the 1200 hp package. Anybody know what's going on over there? I know they just had a car in the shop putting close to 1k to the wheels, so not sure if it's just not official and you have to ask or what. Really was looking forward to seeing some obscene numbers from the V12s this year.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by leveraged sellout Click here to enlarge
    800 hp only...they got rid of the 1200 hp package. Anybody know what's going on over there?
    Interesting, why is that? I mean we should be seeing big numbers out of these huge V12's.

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by leveraged sellout Click here to enlarge
    I know they just had a car in the shop putting close to 1k to the wheels
    Are you sure about that? I haven't seen them crack 1000. This motor just doesn't seem flow well up top.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Interesting, why is that? I mean we should be seeing big numbers out of these huge V12's.


    Are you sure about that? I haven't seen them crack 1000. This motor just doesn't seem flow well up top.
    Yeah I'm not sure what's going on...I should try to see if my connect can get me any info haha. I know they just took in a couple W220s, I think one 600 and one 65. Hoping to see numbers from those sometime in the near future.

    I'm pretty sure...it was on Facebook a while back. I'll try to dig it up. They are actually surprisingly active on there. They don't flow well, but with the type of boost they're running, especially at 6 liters and 12 cylinders, you're bound to make some power eventually. I really really really really really want someone to work on the damn heads. Can't be that hard...they aren't that complex, other than having twin plugs.

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    Yeah if you could get us the details on why they abandoned the 1200 that would be great.

    These huge V12's haven't shown much over other smaller motors out-powering them. The heads and cam could use some attention.

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    Id take one of these big 1000 hp v12's revving out to 7400 rpm over a sc6.3 any day! In my dreams. Hopefully we will see some more development on the v12's this year.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M5 253 Click here to enlarge
    Id take one of these big 1000 hp v12's revving out to 7400 rpm over a sc6.3 any day! In my dreams. Hopefully we will see some more development on the v12's this year.
    I think the M156/M159 are just way better motors. They rev higher, better heads, larger displacement, etc.

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    A few years back they approached me into doing this kit at a REALLY good price. Sadly I did not have the time or resources at that point in time due to another kid being born. There is a guy on another forum that did do this. We are not excatly friends, but I will see if he will post up some info.

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    I think I know who you are referring to. I doubt anyone is friends with him. If it's who I think as well he also laughed at how badly he would beat my car (when it had bolt ons mind you). Would love to race and see who gets stomped considering I've seen him lose to stock internal supercharged M3's.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    I think I know who you are referring to. I doubt anyone is friends with him. If it's who I think as well he also laughed at how badly he would beat my car (when it had bolt ons mind you). Would love to race and see who gets stomped considering I've seen him lose to stock internal supercharged M3's.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    I think I know who you are referring to. I doubt anyone is friends with him. If it's who I think as well he also laughed at how badly he would beat my car (when it had bolt ons mind you). Would love to race and see who gets stomped considering I've seen him lose to stock internal supercharged M3's.
    Phhhbbtt.... Facebook can't be wrong! 3 friends & counting Click here to enlarge Hit a playa' up lol.. What's this lil' sewing circle? Thought my ears were burnin'...... We can race, my SL's a slow bucket vs ur rig.. Still be great fun to run ya...

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by D-Ricka Click here to enlarge
    Phhhbbtt.... Facebook can't be wrong! 3 friends & counting Click here to enlarge Hit a playa' up lol.. What's this lil' sewing circle? Thought my ears were burnin'...... We can race, my SL's a slow bucket vs ur rig.. Still be great fun to run ya...
    Oh we use Facebook to count friends these days. Hold up, going to go add like 30 people to bump my numbers. Should be at 30 now.

    That said, it would be my pleasure to show you just how slow your SL is.

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    Right on... PM is your friend bruthaClick here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by D-Ricka Click here to enlarge
    Right on... PM is your friend bruthaClick here to enlarge
    I've got nothing to hide.

    I'm sure you can find your way out to a dragstrip or rental.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    I've got nothing to hide.

    I'm sure you can find your way out to a dragstrip or rental.
    I simply meant for you to pm when where you can meet? Dragstrip rental would be optimal but nothing worth doing in 95-100 deg heatwave were in.. I was thinking few friendly rollons late night in cooler air some where in LA?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by D-Ricka Click here to enlarge
    I simply meant for you to pm when where you can meet? Dragstrip rental would be optimal but nothing worth doing in 95-100 deg heatwave were in.. I was thinking few friendly rollons late night in cooler air some where in LA?
    I think slips would be what everyone would prefer as it shows data. The heat doesn't bother me.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Did MKB ever back up their 1000?
    No. They are a big a liars. I beat them with only tune SL65

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ValveBucket Click here to enlarge
    No. They are a big a liars. I beat them with only tune SL65
    Is there proof of this?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Is there proof of this?
    No. But they are a big a liars. What 1000hp? No dyno. No track. No results. This is cow$#@!

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    Well I agree with that there is nothing to support their claims.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Well I agree with that there is nothing to support their claims.
    Only cow$#@! my friend. I retuned many MKB cars. They get more power than before.

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    Well I don't put much stock in any of these European tuners that go by their name brand over anything else.

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