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    More evidence why ADV.1 blows!

    People quit sending your money to this pathetic wheel company.

    Another horror story posted over on m3post.

    Link: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...8#post12311498



    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by b42 Click here to enlarge
    I'm a new and not a BMW owner, so if you guys feel bad, I am sorry.


    I read "22'' ADV10TS wheels cracked from the inside out!" and "This is why I will only buy JWL certified wheels" threads on this forum, and I also want you guys to know about the ADV.1's quality.


    Please read this. if you are interested in the ADV.1 3-piece wheels, want to get them or have been using them.


    At first, see the photo below.


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    This is the center disc of my wheel that is 21" ADV.1 ADV7 Track Spec for my Audi RS6 Avant(C6).


    We can see many holes on the flange.


    <details>
    Mar. 2010: I ordered 21" ADV.1 ADV7 Deep Concave through Wheels Boutique.
    Sep. 2010: The wheels arrived, but they were returned to ADV.1 because of the wrong offset.
    Oct. 2010: The corrected wheel set arrived, but they were returned to ADV.1 again because the vibration appeared.
    Mar. 2011: The corrected wheel set arrived, but they were returned to ADV.1 again because of the wrong center bore and the vibration appeared again.
    Jun. 2011: The corrected wheel set arrived, but the wrong offset and the wrong center bore were found again.
             I requested a refund.
            Jordan offered me a free second wheel set by using a warranty.
            I ordered 21" ADV7 Track Spec.
    Nor. 2011: The second wheel set arrived, and...


    I had gotten the vibration on the speed more than 75 mph again and thought that tires were not good, so they were changed from the Pirelli P-Zero Neros to the new Bridgestone Potenza RE050s, but the vibration had not stopped yet.


    Next, I doubted that the wheels might have some problems.
    Normally, I should return the wheels to ADV.1 to inspect them without taking them apart, but I am in Japan and do not want to take a long time to reassemble them, so they were taken apart to reassemble here in Japan.
    At the time, I found many holes which were cut on the flange of the center disc.


    Actually two rear wheels have the added holes.


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    the right side


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    the left side


    When we compare the right center disc with the left one, the added holes are cut the different position between the right and the left ones.






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    See the photo above.
    It is too close between holes, and the flange may crack when fasteners are tightened up.
    I am really worry about the safety and the strength of these wheels.
    They will not be able to support the RS6 which has the 580hp and the heavy weight 4800lbs.
    When I imagine that I drive my car which is installed the wheels with my family, I get just scared...


    Of course, I let ADV.1 know about this issue.
    Jordan's answer was,,,


    > it's not anything that would affect the safety / quality of the wheels


    I asked him why he could declare that the safety and the quality of my wheels were not problem without inspecting the actual wheels.


    This is Jordan's answer.
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 09:35:45 -0400


    ADV.1 Jordan wrote:


    There's no need for us to inspect the wheels again as they were inspected
    upon QC prior to assembly and packaging. The 80 hole drill process on the
    assembly flange is used often times for weight reduction / valve stem hole
    alignment should the rotation of the center disc be slightly off from the
    pre-drilled hole on the lip. Normally for weight savings we do this a
    little differently as shown attached however on the 80 hole alignment it's
    exactly like this. The reason this was done on your file is only because
    the drill programming was an existing file from a previous order.


    This does not in any way affect your wheels balance, strength or any other
    negative factor.


    Jordan


    ADV.1 | Advance One Wheels, Inc.


    Jordan Swerdloff


    President


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    This is his a attached reference.
    ---------------------------------------------------------------


    Jordan has never explained logically and concretely why my wheels here do not have problem of the safety, the strength and the quality.


    He explains the flange pocketing, but I have never ordered to cut pockets or added holes on the flange of center discs.


    Addition, he explains the previus drill programming in this mail.


    > The reason this was done on your file is only because
    > the drill programming was an existing file from a previous order.


    The previus order is ADV7 Deep Concave.
    The latest order is ADV7 Track Spec.


    This is definitely ADV.1's failure.
    ADV.1 made a blunder to input the drill programming.
    This signifys that they can not manage customers' orders and the production process.
    He has admited that ADV.1 has problems with their abilities in a customer management, a production management and a quality control.

    My wheel set here is an inferior product which was made by ADV.1's blunder.


    I have requested a refund, but Jordan has insisted that my wheel set here has no problem.




    I'd like to ask you guys on this forum.


    Do you think this wheel set is a quality product?
    Could you pay $8000 for this wheel set?
    Could you drive your car which is installed this wheel set with your family?


    Thank you for reading this long story.:thanks:


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    People should be more careful when it comes to wheels. If something goes with the rims the result will be ugly.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
    People quit sending your money to this pathetic wheel company.

    Another horror story posted over on m3post.

    Link: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...8#post12311498
    HRE FTW.

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    i don't get why people would go to ADV.1 after jordans experience with his previous company 360 forged.
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    ADV.1 have some real nice designed wheels.
    It's just not everyone tries to check the background of a wheel manufacturer before they order a set of wheels.
    And they advertise a lot and make very nice photoshoots.
    That gets the name mentioned and somehow creates a false sence of security.
    It's just that in all their photoshoots the cars are stationary, and that is probably for good reason Click here to enlarge

    M3_WC, thank you for sharing this Click here to enlarge
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    arent they all just rebranded mht or something?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    arent they all just rebranded mht or something?
    Nice sig!
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bmwtek Click here to enlarge
    HRE FTW.
    Hi 5
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DavidV Click here to enlarge
    And they advertise a lot and make very nice photoshoots. That gets the name mentioned and somehow creates a false sence of security. It's just that in all their photoshoots the cars are stationary, and that is probably for good reason Click here to enlarge
    Agreed, the only good thing about ADV 1 is the photos.

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    The wheel manufacturer for them would be at fault for this wouldn't they? ADV just provides the design/sales/marketing.

    Still, seems like nothing but problems with these guys no matter what the name is.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sorena Click here to enlarge
    People should be more careful when it comes to wheels. If something goes with the rims the result will be ugly.
    Concur.

    Let me paint a picture.

    Wheel comes off at 80, car flips, rolls, your family is beaten to $#@! inside the car as it comes to a halt. Makes me want to puke really.

    Those holes look like bull$#@! to me. Looks like they drilled the wrong holes, then just drilled more holes to make it work. Why would that be acceptable? I bet you they have not tested the wheel lip with those holes side by side like that.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by akh23456 Click here to enlarge
    i don't get why people would go to ADV.1 after jordans experience with his previous company 360 forged.
    I think people genuinely love their designs. I have to admit, some of them are very attractive.

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    I don't understand how they are still a vendor. I guess it proves the fact that great marketing and sales make a hot product, not quality and design.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    arent they all just rebranded mht or something?
    ADV.1 owns the designs and let's MHT re-brand them and resell them under other brands they own.

    ADV.1 leases/owns an area of MHT's production facility for production.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    The wheel manufacturer for them would be at fault for this wouldn't they? ADV just provides the design/sales/marketing.
    I believe they employ the people doing the final assembly, so it's on them.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by singletrack Click here to enlarge
    I believe they employ the people doing the final assembly, so it's on them.
    If so agreed.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by singletrack Click here to enlarge
    ADV.1 owns the designs and let's MHT re-brand them and resell them under other brands they own.
    That has to be the opposite man, im pretty sure anyway. adv1 cant be distributing to EVERYONE

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    That has to be the opposite man, im pretty sure anyway. adv1 cant be distributing to EVERYONE
    Pretty sure based on what? ADV.1 has stated this before. MHT makes wheels for tons of companies - Vorsteiner is another. Vorsteiner owns the designs; MHT manufactures the wheels. The designs are owned by the companies in question.

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    A year and nine months and he still didn't come right. Wow.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    That has to be the opposite man, im pretty sure anyway. adv1 cant be distributing to EVERYONE
    It isn't the opposite, MHT produces for a lot of people including ADV.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by singletrack Click here to enlarge
    Pretty sure based on what? ADV.1 has stated this before. MHT makes wheels for tons of companies - Vorsteiner is another. Vorsteiner owns the designs; MHT manufactures the wheels. The designs are owned by the companies in question.

    I must have misread. MHT does make them, but the actual designs belong to the companies (adv/vorst. ect)? And then they are licensed to other companies (copies/reps)..?

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    This is unacceptable, not only is it unsafe and sloppy but the wheels also cost a fortune. Unbelievable, I'd be so pissed if I was this guy.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bobS Click here to enlarge
    This is unacceptable, not only is it unsafe and sloppy but the wheels also cost a fortune. Unbelievable, I'd be so pissed if I was this guy.
    Seems like huge liability, I don't get their thinking.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Seems like huge liability, I don't get their thinking.
    Right, just imagine if there was a accident and people died, the wheel came apart or cracked and someone inspected the other wheels and found that. Talk about a lawsuit. Just make the wheels right...I don't get it?! Maybe they need to work on improving thier quality process and slow down on all the picture taking and marketing....

    Threads like this take all that great marketing they do and flush it down the toilet.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bobS Click here to enlarge
    Right, just imagine if there was a accident and people died, the wheel came apart or cracked and someone inspected the other wheels and found that. Talk about a lawsuit. Just make the wheels right...I don't get it?! Maybe they need to work on improving thier quality process and slow down on all the picture taking and marketing....

    Threads like this take all that great marketing they do and flush it down the toilet.
    I think they just do not give a $#@!.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    I must have misread. MHT does make them, but the actual designs belong to the companies (adv/vorst. ect)? And then they are licensed to other companies (copies/reps)..?
    Exactly. Licensed to MHT to re-brand and, often sell for cheaper, under one of their lines.

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