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    Evotech Stage 3 W212 M157 E63 AMG takes on a PP-Performance Stage 2 F10 M5 and walks it easily

    We are going to see a lot of these videos in the next few years as E63 and M5 owners tune their cars and fight to be kings of the highway. The M157 has been on the market a little longer and has an advantage in available parts. The E63 in the video here has a Evotech tune, no cats, full exhaust, and modified turbos. The M5 has PP-Performance tune, cat delete, and full exhaust. The E63 makes quick work of it which is no surprise if the turbos have been modified.

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    Crazy sticky, even with a mild tune that E63 has to be making 800wt
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    Great cars clearly the MB owner is having a good laugh
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    M157 makes me wet
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MistressE55 Click here to enlarge
    M157 makes me wet
    Now I'm wondering if you are female.

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    Around 18 seconds looks like the M5 driver lifted a little due to a vehicle in his lane. I'm not saying he would have won, but there's doubt as to at which point he started lifting.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M&M Click here to enlarge
    Around 18 seconds looks like the M5 driver lifted a little due to a vehicle in his lane. I'm not saying he would have won, but there's doubt as to at which point he started lifting.
    He lifted at some point but he was getting pulled pretty easily.

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    Looks like he was pulling initally. Hard to say when he lifted. If there was a car in his lane he could have eased off even earlier than 18 seconds. We need multiple runs to draw any meaningful conclusions.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M&M Click here to enlarge
    Looks like he was pulling initally. Hard to say when he lifted. If there was a car in his lane he could have eased off even earlier than 18 seconds. We need multiple runs to draw any meaningful conclusions.
    We definitely need more runs but I don't think it is hard to come to the conclusion that a M157 with modified turbos is going to take an F10 M5 with exhaust and tune.

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    When it comes to Benz, mod for mod, PP-Performance always kill Evotech
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jacob502 Click here to enlarge
    When it comes to Benz, mod for mod, PP-Performance always kill Evotech
    Based on...?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Now I'm wondering if you are female.
    I am a proud dude and the M157 makes me wet.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Q4P Click here to enlarge
    I am a proud dude and the M157 makes me wet.
    Hahah!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Based on...?
    Based on me. My SL63 had an Evotech tune before switching to PP-Performance. On many occasions and race meets and even the Moscow unlimited 500. Jimmy's tuned cars were always ahead mod for mod.

    Funny, I never heard of this BMW F10. So far they tuned three and they were still working on developing downpipes for it. I never heard of a ppp BMW running catless in Europe.

    Something is not right. I'm contacting Jimmy about this!
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    Jacob is right, Jimmy Pelka is still working on Stage 2 BMW F10 M5 and it isn't released yet that's for sure.

    Here's a video of

    Mercedes Benz E63 AMG Biturbo PP-Performance Stage 2 680HP 980NM
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    E63 with stage 2 will kill any F10 M5 stage 1 and that's for sure, so that EVOtech stage 3 E63 will kill that Stage 1 M5.

    As I stated Stage 2 for the new M5 isn't released yet and Jimmy is still working on it. He hasn't even installed any exhaust on any M5 yet lol.

    Why don't Oliver bring on his best E63 or CLS63 and race a one from PP-Performance work ?

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    I really enjoy seeing these PP Performance videos. I don't really know much about the work they do, but they sound like they are one of the better tuners out there.

    I can't wait to see a "Stage 3" F10 M5...in 6MT...
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sirex63 Click here to enlarge
    Jacob is right, Jimmy Pelka is still working on Stage 2 BMW F10 M5 and it isn't released yet that's for sure.
    Well then whomever released this video is associated Stage 2 likely with a tune and being catless not with an actual tune for a catless setup.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by flipm3 Click here to enlarge
    I can't wait to see a "Stage 3" F10 M5...in 6MT...
    6 MT will hurt it...

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    WOW awesome videos and performance

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    THIS VIDEO IS A FAKE

    We contacted PP-Performance. They have not even completed on modifying the Exhust of the F10 whatsoever. In fact, this M5 is possibly not a PPP car at all ( I will confirm this by today). Typical nonsense keep floating from Oliver's boys. Loool

    Here is the same car in the video above running against a STOCK S65 in the Moscow unlimited 500

    You can clearly see the heavy S class was only .3 s behind
    and check out the result.







    I have no doubt that with the mods listed to the E63 that it would beat a tuned M5 with a stage 1 tune, but posting lies on YouTube and claiming otherwise is really cheap.



    Oliver, or Evotech boys better prey they don't run into the E63 biturbo that pp-performance are working on :-)


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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jacob502 Click here to enlarge
    They have not even completed on modifying the Exhust of the F10 whatsoever.
    Anyone can get their exhaust modified by anyone.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Anyone can get their exhaust modified by anyone.
    Sure, but a check engine light would be thrown when you remove the cats and not tune for it. The video states that the m5 has no cats. Looool.


    When CEL is on the car loses powe. And actually you wouldnt be calling it Stage 2. Try stage -1
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jacob502 Click here to enlarge
    Sure, but a check engine light would be thrown when you remove the cats and not tune for it.
    So what?

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    When CEL is on the car loses powe
    Weird, I set the M3 1/4 mile record with my CEL on.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    So what?



    Weird, I set the M3 1/4 mile record with my CEL on.


    Run it again without the check engine and you will beat your own record.


    Ask any tuner. A CEL will make you lose power
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