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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jacob502 Click here to enlarge
    I can now see why are not respected by many in this forum!
    It's not my problem that you are too dense to recognize the truth.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LZH Click here to enlarge
    It's not my problem that you are too dense to recognize the truth.
    The truth is that an SLS kills a Ferrari 458. How is it done? I'll leave the technical part for you since you seem to be the Engineer around here.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SLS AMG Click here to enlarge
    It's torque that wins races
    Woohoo!! With that assumption, my Kenworth W900L with a Caterpillar C15 engine and it's 1800 pounds of torque beats your SLS!

    Click here to enlarge lolz....Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jacob502 Click here to enlarge
    Sir,

    I did not give you any rep. I have less than 100 posts and less than 100 rep points. SLS AMG was only trying to explain this to you. The negative rep that you got couldn't be from me
    Sir, see post above. You are unbelievable.

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    Wow - doing a little research, it's remarkable how much faster/better the 458 is...

    458 Italia Vs SLS AMG
    Top Speed
    458: 327.8 Kph
    SLS: 314.9 Kph
    ACC Kph:
    458:
    0-100 3.27s
    0-160 6.5s
    0-200 9.69s
    0-250 16.0s
    1/4 mile 11.0s @ 212.8 Kph
    1 Km 19.8s @ 269.8 Kph
    SLS:
    0-100 3.96s
    0-160 7.7s
    0-200 11.5s
    0-250 19.3s
    1/4 mile 11.8s @ 202.2 Kph
    1 Km 21.0s @ 257.5 Kph
    BRAKES (cold):
    458:
    100-0 36.9m
    200-0 134.8m (-1.17g)
    SLS:
    100-0 39.8m
    200-0 143.0m (-1.10g)
    Vairano handling
    458: 1.15:146 (new record) Michelin Pilot Sport 3
    SLS: 1.17:065 (impressive)
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    458: 1.20g
    SLS: 1.13g
    Weight
    458: 1,533 Kg
    SlS: 1,701 Kg

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by I am Jeff Click here to enlarge
    Woohoo!! With that assumption, my Kenworth W900L with a Caterpillar C15 engine and it's 1800 pounds of torque beats your SLS!

    Click here to enlarge lolz....Click here to enlarge
    We have a Volvo FH750 in our company. It makes 2600 lb-ft of torque. I think it's an overkill for a race against Veyron, but whatever... Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by inlineS54B32 Click here to enlarge
    Wow - doing a little research, it's remarkable how much faster/better the 458 is...

    458 Italia Vs SLS AMG
    Top Speed
    458: 327.8 Kph
    SLS: 314.9 Kph
    ACC Kph:
    458:
    0-100 3.27s
    0-160 6.5s
    0-200 9.69s
    0-250 16.0s
    1/4 mile 11.0s @ 212.8 Kph
    1 Km 19.8s @ 269.8 Kph
    SLS:
    0-100 3.96s
    0-160 7.7s
    0-200 11.5s
    0-250 19.3s
    1/4 mile 11.8s @ 202.2 Kph
    1 Km 21.0s @ 257.5 Kph
    BRAKES (cold):
    458:
    100-0 36.9m
    200-0 134.8m (-1.17g)
    SLS:
    100-0 39.8m
    200-0 143.0m (-1.10g)
    Vairano handling
    458: 1.15:146 (new record) Michelin Pilot Sport 3
    SLS: 1.17:065 (impressive)
    skipad
    458: 1.20g
    SLS: 1.13g
    Weight
    458: 1,533 Kg
    SlS: 1,701 Kg
    oh no, How can it be possible? a SLS kills a 458 24/7. I think something fishy is going on here. Did Ferrari pay you to share such misinformation? Is Jeremy Clarkson a close friend of yours? Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by inlineS54B32 Click here to enlarge
    Same person who neg repped me... He claims he didn't - but is a common liar... "Torque wins races" - better yet "an SLS spanks 458s all day"

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    I'm not a liar, but you are an idiot.

    The image you showed us above is taken from your "setting" icon, which shows the rep that you have given and not recieved. That shows you giving me a negative rep on 11:18AM today 5-24-2012.
    For the last time, I cannot possibly rep you. I have less than 100 Rep points and less than 100 Posts. Can someone help me here and explain to this moron about the repping system.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sorena Click here to enlarge
    oh no, How can it be possible? a SLS kills a 458 24/7. I think something fishy is going on here. Did Ferrari pay you to share such misinformation? Is Jeremy Clarkson a close friend of yours? Click here to enlarge
    You said your in Abu-Dhabi. You also mentioned you have a 458. Do you have it with you in Abu-Dhabi?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jacob502 Click here to enlarge
    You said your in Abu-Dhabi. You also mentioned you have a 458. Do you have it with you in Abu-Dhabi?
    I was in Abu-Dhabi but not right now.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jacob502 Click here to enlarge
    I'm not a liar, but you are an idiot.

    The image you showed us above is taken from your "setting" icon, which shows the rep that you have given and not recieved. That shows you giving me a negative rep on 11:18AM today 5-24-2012.
    For the last time, I cannot possibly rep you. I have less than 100 Rep points and less than 100 Posts. Can someone help me here and explain to this moron about the repping system.

    LOL - why do you think you have such low rep ?? Perhaps because everything you post is garbage and biased towards AMG ?? Hey, I like AMGs too, but I'm not stupid enough to think an SLS is going to "kill" a 458 LOL. The numbers posted above don't lie. But something tells me that you have not been 100% truthful in your OP saying the SLS is not tuned. And you conveniently ignored commenting on the videos with the Jag. The only comment was from your brother saying that GTboard videos sometimes lie about the mods on the cars running yet he had no proof whatsoever that this was the case in the Jag videos.

    So lets just break it down here:

    1. You guys say the SLS will "kill" the 458 because the SLS has more torque LOL

    2. Many others here have give very sound technical specs on why the 458 is faster than the SLS, both on paper and as well there have been multiple videos posted showing a 458 being faster than the SLS.

    3. You have shown a video of a "stock" SLS pulling away from a 458 and claim the SLS is "stock".

    Clearly someone is lying here. And based on you and your brothers continuous biased posts as well as all the other information posted here showing how the 458 is faster than the SLS, I think I know who is full of $#@! and anyone else reading this thread knows, too.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LZH Click here to enlarge
    LOL - why do you think you have such low rep ?? Perhaps because everything you post is garbage and biased towards AMG ?? Hey, I like AMGs too, but I'm not stupid enough to think an SLS is going to "kill" a 458 LOL. The numbers posted above don't lie. But something tells me that you have not been 100% truthful in your OP saying the SLS is not tuned. And you conveniently ignored commenting on the videos with the Jag. The only comment was from your brother saying that GTboard videos sometimes lie about the mods on the cars running yet he had no proof whatsoever that this was the case in the Jag videos.

    So lets just break it down here:

    1. You guys say the SLS will "kill" the 458 because the SLS has more torque LOL

    2. Many others here have give very sound technical specs on why the 458 is faster than the SLS, both on paper and as well there have been multiple videos posted showing a 458 being faster than the SLS.

    3. You have shown a video of a "stock" SLS pulling away from a 458 and claim the SLS is "stock".

    Clearly someone is lying here. And based on you and your brothers continuous biased posts as well as all the other information posted here showing how the 458 is faster than the SLS, I think I know who is full of $#@! and anyone else reading this thread knows, too.
    Dude. You are a pathetic troll. arguing with you is like watching flies f*uck.

    when you own an exotic car like the SLS or the 458 and actually go out and test it, maybe I will take you a little more seriously.

    have fun trolling

    I actually have a good rep count. 47 posts against 35rep points. wheras you have 1369 post agianst 289 rep points. I guess you post all the garbage in this forum.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sorena Click here to enlarge
    I was in Abu-Dhabi but not right now.

    when you are in Abu-Dhabi with your 458. I will be more than happy to set you up in a race against a stock SLS. lets see how you keep upClick here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jacob502 Click here to enlarge
    Dude. You are a pathetic troll. arguing with you is like watching flies f*uck.

    when you own an exotic car like the SLS or the 458 and actually go out and test it, maybe I will take you a little more seriously.

    have fun trolling

    I actually have a good rep count. 47 posts against 35rep points. wheras you have 1369 post agianst 289 rep points. I guess you post all the garbage in this forum.
    See, this is your problem - I just gave you all the facts and your only response is to call me troll. Instead of focusing on the FACTS and trying to rebut the arguments made against you here, you resort to name calling like a spoiled little kid. LOL. And as in typical spoiled little kid fashion you say I need to "own" one of these cars to be taken seriously. I've driven both the SLS and the 458, on the street and on the race track. And I can tell you with 100% certainty that a stock SLS is not beating the 458 no matter what bull$#@! video you post. The numbers do not lie - but you certainly do.
    Take care and enjoy your "supercar" LOL

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LZH Click here to enlarge
    See, this is your problem - I just gave you all the facts and your only response is to call me troll. Instead of focusing on the FACTS and trying to rebut the arguments made against you here, you resort to name calling like a spoiled little kid. LOL. And as in typical spoiled little kid fashion you say I need to "own" one of these cars to be taken seriously. I've driven both the SLS and the 458, on the street and on the race track. And I can tell you with 100% certainty that a stock SLS is not beating the 458 no matter what bull$#@! video you post. The numbers do not lie - but you certainly do.
    Take care and enjoy your "supercar" LOL
    looool. what a child. Do you actually belive the BS you post?

    BTW and FYI. all the numbers and facts that you claimn to have given compares a 458 and SLS from a standpoint launch, which I have clearly indicated and clarified that the 458 has the advantage.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jacob502 Click here to enlarge
    looool. what a child. Do you actually belive the BS you post?

    BTW and FYI. all the numbers and facts that you claimn to have given compares a 458 and SLS from a standpoint launch, which I have clearly indicated and clarified that the 458 has the advantage.
    Bro don't continue in this thread anyone longer we can't convince people who haven't driven these cars and tested them and take MotorTrend, car & driver, and TopGear as their basis.

    Now come on a stock Z06 Corvette making 12.0s on a 1/4 mile according to Motortrend Click here to enlarge

    YEAH I'll BELEIVE THAT Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jacob502 Click here to enlarge
    I'm not a liar, but you are an idiot.

    The image you showed us above is taken from your "setting" icon, which shows the rep that you have given and not recieved. That shows you giving me a negative rep on 11:18AM today 5-24-2012.
    For the last time, I cannot possibly rep you. I have less than 100 Rep points and less than 100 Posts. Can someone help me here and explain to this moron about the repping system.
    I apologize... I really do - you are right. I could have sworn this morning you neg-repped me, but looks like I was wrong.

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    I do think you really need to look at the specifications and relax though. Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by inlineS54B32 Click here to enlarge
    I apologize... I really do - you are right. I could have sworn this morning you neg-repped me, but looks like I was wrong.


    I do think you really need to look at the specifications and relax though. Click here to enlarge
    No harm done. It takes a big man to admit he was wrong and apologise. I forgive you!

    Hey I am relaxed brother. I know what Im talking about. I aprreciate fixtures and results, but in reality I've seen something else.

    I know what I am talking about.

    Lets see if Sorena can meet up for a race and hopefully we will post a video for you all!
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jacob502 Click here to enlarge
    I'm not a liar, but you are an idiot.

    The image you showed us above is taken from your "setting" icon, which shows the rep that you have given and not recieved. That shows you giving me a negative rep on 11:18AM today 5-24-2012.
    For the last time, I cannot possibly rep you. I have less than 100 Rep points and less than 100 Posts. Can someone help me here and explain to this moron about the repping system.
    It is only set to show who you gave it to not who you received it from. Enough discussion on rep, further posts will be deleted and rep adjusted accordingly.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SLS AMG Click here to enlarge
    Bro don't continue in this thread anyone longer we can't convince people who haven't driven these cars and tested them and take MotorTrend, car & driver, and TopGear as their basis.

    Now come on a stock Z06 Corvette making 12.0s on a 1/4 mile according to Motortrend Click here to enlarge

    YEAH I'll BELEIVE THAT Click here to enlarge
    Just do a video of a stock SLS versus a stock 458.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jacob502 Click here to enlarge
    looool. what a child. Do you actually belive the BS you post?

    BTW and FYI. all the numbers and facts that you claimn to have given compares a 458 and SLS from a standpoint launch, which I have clearly indicated and clarified that the 458 has the advantage.
    I do believe what I post because it is based on numbers, facts, theories and real world experience - not dreamland where you and your brother obviously live.
    As for your theory about torque winning [roll on] races - you clearly missed this post which was one of the best ones in this thread:

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by inlineS54B32 Click here to enlarge
    Torque does not win races. Just because carroll shelby (bless him) said this does not make this true. Total horsepower under the HP or torque curve divided by weight wins races.

    Torque is a force - and has no relationship to time or work. A 200lb man can stand on a 100 foot pole attached to a bolt and create 20,000 lb-ft of torque - that doesn't mean anything, because we are missing a component (how fast can he turn it?)... This is where horsepower comes in. Horsepower is derived from torque; torque without any speed means nothing.


    Think of a diesel car - like the 335d with tons of torque. It's not faster than a 335i simply because it has 125 more lb-ft of torque, right? No, it has less area underneath the power curve - and with similar weight, will lose in a race given enough distance.

    Here is a good article to read if you are interested: http://www.largiader.com/articles/torque.html

    Cheers.
    The torque advantage goes to the SLS but not by much and from the above we can conclude that torque really doesn't matter during a roll on race and peak HP (where the 458 has the advantage as well as weight) plays a much larger role when running through the gears. I'm not sure why you can't understand this especially when just about everyone else posting here has said the same thing despite the video you posted AND the other Jag videos posted that you continue to ignore commenting on each time I bring them up. So clearly the SLS in your video was modified yet you claim it wasn't. So, once again, someone here is being untruthful. Either way I don't give a $#@! - there's no point in arguing with someone who isn't equipped to do so and ignores basic facts of physics. You should take your brothers advice and quit while you're ahead.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SLS AMG Click here to enlarge
    Bro don't continue in this thread anyone longer we can't convince people who haven't driven these cars and tested them and take MotorTrend, car & driver, and TopGear as their basis.
    I guess you missed my previous post where I stated that I HAVE driven both the SLS and 458 on the street and on a race track. Have you driven a 458 ?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SLS AMG Click here to enlarge
    Bro don't continue in this thread anyone longer we can't convince people who haven't driven these cars and tested them and take MotorTrend, car & driver, and TopGear as their basis.

    Now come on a stock Z06 Corvette making 12.0s on a 1/4 mile according to Motortrend Click here to enlarge

    YEAH I'll BELEIVE THAT Click here to enlarge
    Not that this matters, but the Z06 also ran a 12.0 1/4 mile when Popular Mechanics tested it.


    Insideline ran it at 11.7s (stock w/o traction control and 11.9 w/ traction control on)


    The car is 3200 lbs and has 505 horsepower - with a fat power curve. It's a fast car dude. People aren't paying these people off to pump the numbers - the car is not something I would personally buy - but it's a fast car - no doubt about it.

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