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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ad445 Click here to enlarge
    Ma3alaik a3arfa 3adl i bought from him a set of headers for my c63 then i sold it after week...
    After i read about his shiiiiit i just ignored his texts and emails to me loool...
    Btw you have a nice sls. Inshallah i'll be back home in ABUDHABI next month and hopefully meet u and you bro jacob502
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    Thats great!

    Do you know my brother? have we met before?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SLS AMG Click here to enlarge
    Thats great!

    Do you know my brother? have we met before?
    No, we haven't. But your bro pm'd me on mbworld like couple of months ago...

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SLS AMG Click here to enlarge
    Bro. we were not talking about you
    Damn it I know let's get back on topic lol.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SLS AMG
    hahah. Ya rajal, ana madre ink araby. Hatha al7mar ana a3rfa. Nasab draja awoola. Haseb minah ya akooy
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    I don't need to read Arabic though to know you are talking about me. Google translate also really struggled with Arabic translation.
    hahah = Hahaha
    Ya rajal = Dude
    ana = I
    madre = [i think it means] don't know
    the rest = ?

    I understand Arabic a bit, i haven't lived across the Gulf for sometimes for nothing however i have no idea why when i try to read Arabic through Latin alphabet, i don't understand a single word! And they use numbers in words which i don't know i have to read them in English or in Arabic. Very confusing lol.

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    Well, if a M157 can make the low end "TORQUE" of a mildly tuned M275 6.0 V12 with just tune..that some serious change on pump gas. And, btw the M157 rev. stock to 6300rpm (graph should have ended between 6000-6500rpm = middle), not at 6200rpm where most AMG M275 are set at. Would like to see that same dyno run by Speed (mph) which will give you the true transmission used of 7g M157 or 5g of a V12. Also, HP of most M275 peaks around 5000rpm & M157 will peak around 5500rpm. And, last track times would be nice =) Just the thought of someone using a mild tune M275 6.0 V12 dynograph & posting it as a M157 LOL & claiming to be a M157 tune only.....gee creative marketing.

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DAGREEKNYC Click here to enlarge
    most likely a little exxagerated . i wonder what smoothing was set to ? Also here is some info from the youtube page link , looks like somebody made a typo .
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    MHP 2012 E63 AMG with MHP v3 CDT for M157:

    618rwhp/740rwtq SAE on 93 octane, 1:1 5th Gear, Dyno Jet

    773HP & 925lb/ft SAE at the crank.
    Last edited by LW@MTG; 04-04-2012 at 06:46 PM.

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    I'm so sick of hearing anything even remotely related to MHP and all their bull$#@! smoke and mirrors.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LZH Click here to enlarge
    I'm so sick of hearing anything even remotely related to MHP and all their bull$#@! smoke and mirrors.
    Weistec made roughly the same WHP, tune only, on CA 91. I'm not surprised if MHP is making good WHP/WTQ on 93. Andy tends to have aggressive calibrations, as he caters to the drag racing community.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM Click here to enlarge
    Weistec made roughly the same WHP, tune only, on CA 91. I'm not surprised if MHP is making good WHP/WTQ on 93. Andy tends to have aggressive calibrations, as he caters to the drag racing community.
    The tuned M157 turbo's can make similar peak power to the M275 6.0l V12 tuned turbos. But, it will not make the torque 740rwtq with M157 stock turbos...which raises some suspicions about the dyno graph used!

    That torque level I've only seen it's from a mild tune AMG V12's 6.0L!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM Click here to enlarge
    Weistec made roughly the same WHP, tune only, on CA 91. I'm not surprised if MHP is making good WHP/WTQ on 93. Andy tends to have aggressive calibrations, as he caters to the drag racing community.
    $#@! Andy and $#@! MHP.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by m54b25 Click here to enlarge
    The tuned M157 turbo's can make similar peak power to the M275 6.0l V12 tuned turbos. But, it will not make the torque 740rwtq with M157 stock turbos...which raises some suspicions about the dyno graph used!

    That torque level I've only seen it's from a mild tune AMG V12's 6.0L!
    The dynos certainly show dramatically different torque curves - hopefully we see track results soon to better compare the new Weistec and MHP tunes vs. the established results from folks like Renntech that've been a little quicker to the punch with the M157.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM Click here to enlarge
    The dynos certainly show dramatically different torque curves - hopefully we see track results soon to better compare the new Weistec and MHP tunes vs. the established results from folks like Renntech that've been a little quicker to the punch with the M157.
    With MHP and Andys track record of deceptive practices, lies and misinformation; I don't find anything they do "coincidental".

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    Here we go again.
    C63 Tuned Only 60-130 in 8.71

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by m54b25 Click here to enlarge
    Well, if a M157 can make the low end "TORQUE" of a mildly tuned M275 6.0 V12 with just tune..that some serious change on pump gas. And, btw the M157 rev. stock to 6300rpm (graph should have ended between 6000-6500rpm = middle), not at 6200rpm where most AMG M275 are set at. Would like to see that same dyno run by Speed (mph) which will give you the true transmission used of 7g M157 or 5g of a V12. Also, HP of most M275 peaks around 5000rpm & M157 will peak around 5500rpm. And, last track times would be nice =) Just the thought of someone using a mild tune M275 6.0 V12 dynograph & posting it as a M157 LOL & claiming to be a M157 tune only.....gee creative marketing.
    Interesting point you raise about it maybe being an M275.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM Click here to enlarge
    Weistec made roughly the same WHP, tune only, on CA 91. I'm not surprised if MHP is making good WHP/WTQ on 93. Andy tends to have aggressive calibrations, as he caters to the drag racing community.
    Fair point but this is not displayed in the best manner. As in, this graph and the results.

    Would be nice to have full graphs showing the correction and everything. I would even like to see the dynojet file.

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    MHP always has been very creative (if you want to call that way) with their marketing.
    Actually, come to think about it, for a one man show / operation, to do all this kind of marketing, traveling, tuning, hyping himself, recruting fanboys,....., and then developing tuning files? Pretty amazing, the guy is superman.

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    dont believe it until i see some track results.
    looking at the claims and their products lately make me wonder about their marketing strategy?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Fair point but this is not displayed in the best manner. As in, this graph and the results.

    Would be nice to have full graphs showing the correction and everything. I would even like to see the dynojet file.
    Agreed - partial cell phone pics of monitors after a dyno run is not "best practices" to reveal info. Especially if you can instead get the WinPEP data, which anyone can download the viewer for free and review it to their hearts' content.

    Regardless, dynos are great and all, but I hope we start seeing more track results from M157's other than just Renntech's one shop car and V Tech's one customer...

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM Click here to enlarge
    Regardless, dynos are great and all, but I hope we start seeing more track results from M157's other than just Renntech's one shop car and V Tech's one customer...
    We are going to see more and more, motor is new.

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    16% drivetrain loss on 93 octane.. cmon Click here to enlarge something is fishy here

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by saeedg48 Click here to enlarge
    16% drivetrain loss on 93 octane.. cmon Click here to enlarge something is fishy here
    +1. I was waiting for someone else besides me to catch itClick here to enlarge

    The dyno Operator that I work with laughed when he saw those dynosheets

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    MHP M: More H: Horse5hit P: Provided

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    Looks like MHP posted a V12 TT dyno sheet rather than a V8TT dyno.

    MHP torque numbers are way off and don't make sense for a tune only.

    Over 700 ft/lbs of torque at wheels from a tune only M157 V8TT seems a little fishy.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by AMGSR Click here to enlarge
    Looks like MHP posted a V12 TT dyno sheet rather than a V8TT dyno.

    MHP torque numbers are way off and don't make sense for a tune only.

    Over 700 ft/lbs of torque at wheels from a tune only M157 V8TT seems a little fishy.
    I've gotten pm's and messages from other tuners who seem to be thinking this as well...

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM Click here to enlarge
    Regardless, dynos are great and all, but I hope we start seeing more track results from M157's other than just Renntech's one shop car and V Tech's one customer...
    Here is one of RENNtech's customers in W212 E63 Non Performance Package repeating the same success that RENNtech had with their own car. Note that this is not RENNtech's shop car, which shows that their results are consistent and are repeatable.

    http://www.benzboost.com/showthread....ith-tune-only-!!!!
    2007 E63 P30
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    Renntech backs up their development better than just about anyone I have seen in the German Performance scene. I can't think of anyone that does it better.

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