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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    You may be right but just because you get service somewhere else does not mean you should be denied.

    I have no clue what the explanation would be to that particular owner. We would need to hear from them directly.
    It is up to the owner to record or keep receipts for all maintenance not done at a dealer. They can't just take some random guys word, that the car has been getting maintenance at joe schom's shop down the street.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
    It is up to the owner to record or keep receipts for all maintenance not done at a dealer. They can't just take some random guys word, that the car has been getting maintenance at joe schom's shop down the street.
    Great, so even greater burden on an individual who has a warranty because the dealer wants to save themselves a buck at their expense. Yet they are soooo nice when you are about to sign those papers.

    I'm not going to sit there and record every time my car gets an oil change. The oil is just a scapegoat anyway, you can see it.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    And we all know the N54 has no defects.

    So 3 firms... that does not mean somebody was just bored.
    The N54 HPFP is a widespread problem. The forums are full of HPFP failures, multiple failures on the same cars.

    Even the M3 S65 has had some engine failures as of late. It has a much smaller production run than the 63 AMG cars.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
    I was talking about a reason/explanation to the car owner why he had to pay out of pocket.

    Doesn't matter what brand it is, they can't just not cover the car for no reason.

    I am willing to bet money, he either had some engine modifications or was not taking his car in for regular service.
    It's nothing unusual for Mercedes or any other manufacturer to deny warranty and blame something else, but that doesn't make it legal. Also, if you read that law suit, it wouldn't matter if the car went in for repairs during or after warranty. It says the parts are defective during the warranty period and should be replaced under warranty. Period.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Great, so even greater burden on an individual who has a warranty because the dealer wants to save themselves a buck at their expense. Yet they are soooo nice when you are about to sign those papers.

    I'm not going to sit there and record every time my car gets an oil change. The oil is just a scapegoat anyway, you can see it.
    It is same way with BMW new car warranties. Just more people are willing to take in their car to BMW because maintenance is free. I am sure some Benz owners skip some maintenance, not wanting to pay for it.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
    It is up to the owner to record or keep receipts for all maintenance not done at a dealer. They can't just take some random guys word, that the car has been getting maintenance at joe schom's shop down the street.
    How many people driving 90K cars take them to some Haitian Station for maintenance? Come on, bro. Use your head.

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    There were 150,000 N54s in a few years and the HPFP wasn't a premature wear issue. How many CL63, S63, and SL63's are out there over 50K miles? Probably not many.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Yomama69 Click here to enlarge
    It's nothing unusual for Mercedes or any other manufacturer to deny warranty and blame something else, but that doesn't make it legal. Also, if you read that law suit, it wouldn't matter if the car went in for repairs during or after warranty. It says the parts are defective during the warranty period and should be replaced under warranty. Period.
    I understand, I have seen plenty of 335i owners get denied warranty repairs or even have their warranties revoked all together. But they are usually taking their cars in with mods on them and get flagged.

    I just want to know what reason they gave Mr. Chan for paying out of pocket. But, most likely will never know.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Yomama69 Click here to enlarge
    How many people driving 90K cars take them to some Haitian Station for maintenance? Come on, bro. Use your head.
    Not saying they are? Just addressing a statement made earlier in the thread.

    A lot of owners are f*cking retarded, they either don't care or are too lazy to take their car in for service.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
    I understand, I have seen plenty of 335i owners get denied warranty repairs or even have their warranties revoked all together. But they are usually taking their cars in with mods on them and get flagged.

    I just want to know what reason they gave Mr. Chan for paying out of pocket. But, most likely will never know.
    Maybe he took the car in with 50,001 miles on the clock?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
    Not saying they are? Just addressing a statement made earlier in the thread.

    A lot of owners are f*cking retarded, they either don't care or are too lazy to take their car in for service.
    I agree, but this isn't about 1 or 2 or 10 defective vehicles. This is about a defect in an engine that is in numerous model lines.

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    Basically, this is a problem that has yet to show its worst.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Basically, this is a problem that has yet to show its worst.
    This engine has been in cars since 2006. I am sure there a number high mileage E63's, CLK63's, ML63', etc...

    This just seemed to popup out of no where.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
    This engine has been in cars since 2006. I am sure there a number high mileage E63's, CLK63's, ML63', etc...

    This just seemed to popup out of no where.
    They barely sold any ML63's, which is why they discontinued them. This only popped out of nowhere to you. Search mbw and you'll find instances in posts for a few years back.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
    This engine has been in cars since 2006. I am sure there a number high mileage E63's, CLK63's, ML63', etc...

    This just seemed to popup out of no where.
    How can you say out of nowhere when there was a service bulletin in 2007 regarding it? That was when they were all still low mileage. Also, how you drive will affect it. There is no telling at which point this premature wear will really destroy the motor but that it is taking place.

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    Remember Toyota? They swept that unintended acceleration under the rug by spinning it and calling it a "sticky pedal" when it was obvious that it was an electrical/electronic issue. Car sales is a business and replacing parts that cost 10K will be a huge loss to Mercedes.

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    Good luck trying to win a case against AMG.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by _AMG_ Click here to enlarge
    Good luck trying to win a case against AMG.
    AMG is a subsidiary of Daimler AG. No more, no less. Mercedes has been sued before for product defects and Sherman Act violations successfully. They aren't they god of immune corporations.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by _AMG_ Click here to enlarge
    Let me rephrase....Good lick trying to win against a multi-billion dollar corporation.
    You act like it never happens. Just because they can toss money at lawyers does not mean they can do whatever they want.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Yomama69 Click here to enlarge
    AMG is a subsidiary of Daimler AG. No more, no less. Mercedes has been sued before for product defects and Sherman Act violations successfully. They aren't they god of immune corporations.
    Along with alot of other car manufacturers.....

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    They've all been sued successfully multiple times. All of them.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    You act like it never happens. Just because they can toss money at lawyers does not mean they can do whatever they want.
    Just saying its hard to win a case against a multi billion dollar corporation that can afford the best of the best lawyers.

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    Whatever....best of luck to the guy trying to sue Diamler.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by _AMG_ Click here to enlarge
    Just saying its hard to win a case against a multi billion dollar corporation that can afford the best of the best lawyers.
    What's your basis for this statement?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by _AMG_ Click here to enlarge
    Whatever....best of luck to the guy trying to sue Diamler.
    You mean best of luck to all M156 owners. The suit is on behalf of all of them...and that includes benzboost members. I don't know why any of them wouldn't support this since it's in their best interest to do so.

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