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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
    ...not to mention strain on susspension components and wheel bearings because I highly doubt he's doing a proper wide body conversion which would entale new control arms and wider axxles, I'm sure he's just throwing on wider wheels with a funky offset and backspacing. The car will handle worse than stock once the "widebody conversion" is completed. Wide wheels and backspacing does not a widebody make. I'm sure its gonna look cool but its gonna handle like my Ford Raptor.
    I'll have some details on a widebody C63 AMG posted tomorrow, decide for yourself.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge

    I'm not crazy at all though, turbo lag isn't my idea of fun.
    you're an incredible salesman!!! good job!!!
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Full Throttle Click here to enlarge
    you're an incredible salesman!!! good job!!!
    I'm just telling you what I think.

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    Yeah but who wants a 996? Super dated and build quality was terrible - even the TT. Sure it can be tuned to make a bunch of power, but so can Subaru for half the price. And with the new 911 coming out soon it'll be three models old. Personally I wouldn't drive a another Porsche if you paid me. The way they treat their customers is deplorable and their build quality has only gone downhill since the 993. I should have never sold my 993 Turbo S - makes me sick just thinking about it.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LZH Click here to enlarge
    Yeah but who wants a 996? Super dated and build quality was terrible - even the TT. Sure it can be tuned to make a bunch of power, but so can Subaru for half the price. And with the new 911 coming out soon it'll be three models old. Personally I wouldn't drive a another Porsche if you paid me. The way they treat their customers is deplorable and their build quality has only gone downhill since the 993. I should have never sold my 993 Turbo S - makes me sick just thinking about it.
    I do, obviously, since I just picked a 996TT up. And, for a 10-yr old car, the build quality seems pretty damn good to me... should be, for a car that stickered at nearly $150k.

    Oh, and when the 991 comes out... it'll be two models old (991 current, 997 one removed, 996 two removed).

    Got to drive a local indy shop owner's pristine 997 GT3, and it was (and is) a wonderful machine... would be honored to own one someday.

    So, the only thing in your post I actually agree with, is your comment about the 993 Turbo S. Those are timeless classics, and they have soared in value in recent years. Would be a feather in the cap of most any enthusiast's garage.

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    Awesome figures. Can Weistec chime in if specialized tools are required for the head swop?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LZH Click here to enlarge
    Yeah but who wants a 996? Super dated and build quality was terrible - even the TT. Sure it can be tuned to make a bunch of power, but so can Subaru for half the price.
    What do you mean man? so instead of a Weistec CLK63 BS, owner should have bought a Civic which can make +600whp with 1/5 of the price? or a Bugatti should have bought a R34 GT-R which tuned can make 1500HP with 1/10 of the money?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LZH Click here to enlarge
    Yeah but who wants a 996?
    Enthusiasts who like fast cars, everyone is not a benz snob and to be honest with you these cars are NOT that big of a deal. These little 600whp 4000lb buckets are not the end all be all.
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    give him 5lbs of boost and tell him to BEAT IT ! I prefer a 993 over the 996 . The last of the air cooled !

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sorena Click here to enlarge
    What do you mean man? so instead of a Weistec CLK63 BS, owner should have bought a Civic which can make +600whp with 1/5 of the price? or a Bugatti should have bought a R34 GT-R which tuned can make 1500HP with 1/10 of the money?
    I never said anything about a CLK BS...I simply stated my opinion of the 996 platform.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LZH Click here to enlarge
    I never said anything about a CLK BS...I simply stated my opinion of the 996 platform.
    You missed his point entirely. Reread the specific part he bolded... see if you get it.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM Click here to enlarge
    You missed his point entirely. Reread the specific part he bolded... see if you get it.
    I didn't miss anything and you're clearly upset at my post since you just picked up a 996TT. Relax man, it's a nice car and I'm sure you'll enjoy it. I just think if you want to go fast there are better and cheaper options.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM Click here to enlarge
    I do, obviously, since I just picked a 996TT up. And, for a 10-yr old car, the build quality seems pretty damn good to me... should be, for a car that stickered at nearly $150k.

    Oh, and when the 991 comes out... it'll be two models old (991 current, 997 one removed, 996 two removed).

    Got to drive a local indy shop owner's pristine 997 GT3, and it was (and is) a wonderful machine... would be honored to own one someday.

    So, the only thing in your post I actually agree with, is your comment about the 993 Turbo S. Those are timeless classics, and they have soared in value in recent years. Would be a feather in the cap of most any enthusiast's garage.
    Have you worked on the 996 yet ? Have you even changed the oil ? I've done oil changes, pulled motors, head work, transmissions pulled, suspension work, AC work, electrical etc on 964's, 993's, 996's and 997's - street cars and cup cars. And I can tell you without a doubt that while you may feel the build quality is good for a 10 year old car...it is the worst out of all four aforementioned iterations of the 911. You may not agree with me, and that's fine - but I've spent a lot of time under 911's and I think I know what I'm talking about in this particular regard.
    Hope you enjoy your purchase.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LZH Click here to enlarge
    I didn't miss anything and you're clearly upset at my post since you just picked up a 996TT. Relax man, it's a nice car and I'm sure you'll enjoy it. I just think if you want to go fast there are better and cheaper options.
    LZH, yes I suppose I took exception to your comment. I do enjoy it, and do feel (quite subjective, to be certain) that it's a nice car. Yes, there are cheaper options if you just want something fast... the domestic and Japanese markets seem to have that cornered pretty successfully vis-ŕ-vis their Euro counterparts. Better options? Maybe... that's up to each to determine. But it seems you've softened your tone from earlier (which is what I disagreed with):

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LZH Click here to enlarge
    Yeah but who wants a 996? Super dated and build quality was terrible - even the TT. Sure it can be tuned to make a bunch of power, but so can Subaru for half the price. And with the new 911 coming out soon it'll be three models old. Personally I wouldn't drive a another Porsche if you paid me. The way they treat their customers is deplorable and their build quality has only gone downhill since the 993. I should have never sold my 993 Turbo S - makes me sick just thinking about it.
    Most everyone seems to rave about the 997.2 911s, including 997.2TTs, 997.2 GT3s (standard and RS... with RS 4.0 being top dog) and the GT2 RS. Haven't read any account that states they're inferior build quality to a 993, as you claimed. You certainly wouldn't have to pay me to drive one. And, to date, my local dealership (Don Rosen Porsche) has been very nice to do business with... and I didn't buy the car from them (only servicing so far).

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LZH Click here to enlarge
    Have you worked on the 996 yet ? Have you even changed the oil ? I've done oil changes, pulled motors, head work, transmissions pulled, suspension work, AC work, electrical etc on 964's, 993's, 996's and 997's - street cars and cup cars. And I can tell you without a doubt that while you may feel the build quality is good for a 10 year old car...it is the worst out of all four aforementioned iterations of the 911. You may not agree with me, and that's fine - but I've spent a lot of time under 911's and I think I know what I'm talking about in this particular regard.
    Hope you enjoy your purchase.
    No, I bought a Porsche CPO'd car... so the dealership is servicing it as needed - I'll start doing some work (or shop it out to my German specialist indy) next year when CPO runs out.

    I've spent time in 964s, 996s, and 997s - but not nearly to the same extent you have. Yes, the 996 is probably accepted as worst of that grouping. From my own first-hand experience, 997 GT3 is probably the most fun, followed by a 964 RSA. I will say, though, that this car has nice build touches befitting a $150k car in 2002... full leather interior (dash, pillars, etc), deviated stitching, some tasteful factory CF accents, suede(alacantra) headliner, etc. Pretty stout performance too... and a pretty simple flash/wastegate/exhaust upgrade gets it to around 480-500 whp and 550 wtq... looking forward to that next year. Click here to enlarge

    Would I rather have a 997TT or GT3? Undoubtedly... but that wasn't in the budget at this point. Would I rather have a CLK63BS, if I had to keep it? Tough call... but probably not - not because it's not a fantastic machine (it certainly is), but I would prefer to have a manual option in the garage to take out for drives when the mood strikes me, instead of three slushbox'd cars.

    Anyway, thanks for clarifying your post. Take care and enjoy your weekend.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LZH Click here to enlarge
    I didn't miss anything and you're clearly upset at my post since you just picked up a 996TT. Relax man, it's a nice car and I'm sure you'll enjoy it. I just think if you want to go fast there are better and cheaper options.
    You did miss my point. According to your comment, we shouldn't get expensive cars; all we have to do is buying cheap cars which can make the same WHP as expensive cars but with half money. and you know there is always a car which makes same WHP as your car however the money spent on that car is less yours.

    I respect your opinion about 996 platform sir, but everyone can drive anything they want and mod it.

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    Are you sure it runes on 91 octane ?

    I contacted one at your company and he said that S2 is dedicated to race gas only ..

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    so dude cant handle 630 whp in a 4000 lb car? SISSY $#@!
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DBFIU Click here to enlarge
    so dude cant handle 630 whp in a 4000 lb car? SISSY $#@!
    Dude is a douche.

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