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    E92 M3 vs MK6 GTI K04

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    Go GTI! nice kill!
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    dang that GTI pulled hard on that m3
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Yukohama Click here to enlarge
    dang that GTI pulled hard on that m3

    Yea, but I think maybe cause they were both in 4th gear it was in the GTI's favor. If the m3 was in third and gti 4th It would have been a more even match. It still was a pretty good race tho, he said they tried it in different gears too but the outcome wasnt too different.
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    the m3 needs gintani stage lol
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Yukohama Click here to enlarge
    the m3 needs gintani stage lol
    I think intake headers pulley and tune would be nice gains for the m3 without dropping to much dough. But who wouldnt want to ad a blower to their m3 Click here to enlarge
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    I've ran some K04 powered Audi S4's and they are pretty quick. Good pair of quick spooling turbos with nice top end.
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    Don't know why the M3 would be in 4th gear at those speeds.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ItalianStallion Click here to enlarge
    I've ran some K04 powered Audi S4's and they are pretty quick. Good pair of quick spooling turbos with nice top end.
    K04 S4's are much faster than this GTI.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    K04 S4's are much faster than this GTI.
    I dont know what to say about that.. B5 s4 weighs 3700 lbs and k04 turbo puts about 360 awhp maybe 380.. hp/lb ratio is 10.27. The Gti weighs 3100 lbs and puts from 320-340 whp the hp/lb ratio is 9.7. It would be a good race tho, I'd like to see that.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
    I dont know what to say about that.. B5 s4 weighs 3700 lbs and k04 turbo puts about 360 awhp maybe 380.. hp/lb ratio is 10.27. The Gti weighs 3100 lbs and puts from 320-340 whp the hp/lb ratio is 9.7. It would be a good race tho, I'd like to see that.
    Haven't K04 S4's run 10's?

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    Still, thats just a good 60'. $#@! that, a GREAT 60' compared to the GTI. Its FWD will barely hit in the high 11's with stock set up.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
    Still, thats just a good 60'. $#@! that, a GREAT 60' compared to the GTI. Its FWD will barely hit in the high 11's with stock set up.
    But we are talking more power as well, two K04's on a 2.7 liter V6 vs. single on a 2.0 4 cylinder.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    But we are talking more power as well, two K04's on a 2.7 liter V6 vs. single on a 2.0 4 cylinder.
    Yea, I'm sure it will take it up top passed 120-30. But still you can have 500 whp but if your car weighs 4k... you're still not that fast. btw those k04's are smaller than the single k04 on the GTI. They're not the same wheel or compressor size.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
    Yea, I'm sure it will take it up top passed 120-30. But still you can have 500 whp but if your car weighs 4k... you're still not that fast. btw those k04's are smaller than the single k04 on the GTI. They're not the same wheel or compressor size.

    Bring the fastest k04 gti out to michigan And ill run you for 1k cash ... pay for your trip ect if i lose.... k04 s4s make 380-440whp depending on supporting mods on a S4..... k04 on 2.0t is the slowest thing Ive ever been in..... My buddy had a gt3071 on his gti and got walked by a b5 s4 k04 car

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    Youtube z06 vs twin turbo s4, video is by "tensecs4" or something...that's my z06 when it was bone stock against one of the quickest street s4's out thereat the time..
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ItalianStallion Click here to enlarge
    Youtube z06 vs twin turbo s4, video is by "tensecs4" or something...that's my z06 when it was bone stock against one of the quickest street s4's out thereat the time..
    Marks full interior silver car was fast but the fastest by no means

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ItalianStallion Click here to enlarge
    Youtube z06 vs twin turbo s4, video is by "tensecs4" or something...that's my z06 when it was bone stock against one of the quickest street s4's out thereat the time..
    Don't make us work, post it.

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    italians car


    my buddies car

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 600whp S4 Click here to enlarge
    Bring the fastest k04 gti out to michigan And ill run you for 1k cash ... pay for your trip ect if i lose.... k04 s4s make 380-440whp depending on supporting mods on a S4..... k04 on 2.0t is the slowest thing Ive ever been in..... My buddy had a gt3071 on his gti and got walked by a b5 s4 k04 car
    Bro, I'm just putting it down by the facts. Equal bolt on mods and gas, the GTI will win. I havent seen many k04 s4 on pump with just TBE intake and intercooler, without meth, pull more than 360 whp.

    Is it the black GTI with the ATP turbo kit? that is a custom tune and is barely putting 300 whp.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
    Bro, I'm just putting it down by the facts. Equal bolt on mods and gas, the GTI will win. I havent seen many k04 s4 on pump with just TBE intake and intercooler, without meth, pull more than 360 whp.

    Is it the black GTI with the ATP turbo kit? that is a custom tune and is barely putting 300 whp.
    I don't believe that the GTI will win with a k04 vs. an S4 with k04's, just doesn't make sense to me.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    I don't believe that the GTI will win with a k04 vs. an S4 with k04's, just doesn't make sense to me.
    When I get my car fully tuned and bolted is a little faster than a k04 gti, I'll try to find a k04 s4 down here and we'll do a comparo. No worries, It'll be a good run.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
    When I get my car fully tuned and bolted is a little faster than a k04 gti, I'll try to find a k04 s4 down here and we'll do a comparo. No worries, It'll be a good run.
    Good luck, but k04 S4's have put up some impressive numbers and definitely make more power....

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 600whp S4 Click here to enlarge
    Marks full interior silver car was fast but the fastest by no means
    In the video you posted, I don't think the Z06 driver was the greatest. They are very driver dependent. Also, was this S4 on pump or race fuel? I raced Marc on pump. When he got his race fuel tune ready, I already had mods and it wouldn't have been much of a race for me.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Good luck, but k04 S4's have put up some impressive numbers and definitely make more power....
    You're right, I dont underestimate them. they trap 120+ in a 1/4 have the displacement advantage. I have -700 lbs and better gearing... It will be good. I'm not ashamed of losing, I actually like it because it makes me look forward to the next car and what my car is worth. (to me at least.)
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