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    My favorite part about this thread (10am CST)....

    My favorite part about this thread (10am CST). Firstly incorrect. Secondly way out of left field:



    Meanwhile posted in another thread (9am CST):



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    In light of "proving" something is this...

    In light of "proving" something is this reoccurring theme, yet another just today coming over from the "dark side".:music-rockout: To completely candid this individual bought some older RB's to...
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    This is correct. Although it is really for low...

    This is correct. Although it is really for low load (reverse airflow) anti-freezing. That is when air is being pulled FROM the inlets (filtrated air), THROUGH the crankcase, into the PCV Valve, and...
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    Heats the CC gasses for emissions? Would love to...

    Heats the CC gasses for emissions? Would love to hear the functional theory behind that one.

    Anyway here is the literature. See bottom of page 12. It is very vague but certainly makes no reference...
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    When one has nothing to hide there is no need to...

    When one has nothing to hide there is no need to ignore. Think as you will though, appreciate it.

    Will add though, feedback like this is why many simply just do not partake in the forums. Everyone...
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    He knows no good can come from any of the truths...

    He knows no good can come from any of the truths behind the questions in the post you've made with the questions. So simply keeping the masses in a state of foggy confusion only helps the campaign....
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    Agree. It is very likely not to happen. Pretty...

    Agree. It is very likely not to happen. Pretty sure we almost had this happen a while back, never did. Fact is that it is still going to likely end with data that can be argued. Someone always will...
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    We've been trying to do this "sort" of comparison...

    We've been trying to do this "sort" of comparison for years. Even did earlier in this thread (see post #76 ).
    http://www.bimmerboost.com/showthread.php?64349-RB-versus-VTT-2&p=628448#post628448
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    The wastegate design and components are critical...

    The wastegate design and components are critical to longevity. We pride ourselves on this part of our build, our components are all anti-wear matched materials and billet machined… extremely costly...
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    There have been war stories of all turbos...

    There have been war stories of all turbos smoking. OEM, RB, VTT, FP, Helix, AWD, you name it. Nobody talks about OEM because they are OEM. RB has likely sold the most, so we took a lot of heat when...
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    Really this is the post that holds the most...

    Really this is the post that holds the most meaning in this entire thread. Quoted it a few times so it can sink in for others. The VTT Stage 2+'s use too big of a wheel, one that is unnecessary for...
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    Hope this thread helped out the OP.

    Hope this thread helped out the OP.
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    Sticky, Honestly you are wasting your time....

    Sticky,

    Honestly you are wasting your time. You are dealing with a cry baby drama queen over at VTT. He will argue tooth and nail until he knows he has lost, then he will block you, then argue...
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    Good post. Just wish those RB dynos weren't...

    Good post. Just wish those RB dynos weren't intentionally tuned for a less peaky midrange. Pretty clear what would've happened if they were not tuned like that. But making that power without anywhere...
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    And? We will not be there either… do we not trust...

    And? We will not be there either… do we not trust Terry to tune or what?
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    Just in case people still haven't caught on,...

    Just in case people still haven't caught on, Vendor X = RB. :awesome:
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    Here you go. Let GiveEmTheDD do his thing as he...

    Here you go. Let GiveEmTheDD do his thing as he already has what we'd be sending out to anyone (obviously production models since he already has them, lol). Then someone anonymously order him some...
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    No. The inlet system should be the same. Do not...

    No. The inlet system should be the same. Do not need further excuses about what is the ultimate turbo choice muddied up by inlet system variance.

    EDIT: See you said drag race. Sorry. Just making...
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    Makes no sense for us to offer a discount and VTT...

    Makes no sense for us to offer a discount and VTT not, but it does make sense for us both to offer a significant discount for the sake of having an independent shootout.

    Truth be told we (RB AND...
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    So what does nearly all of this have to do with?...

    So what does nearly all of this have to do with? Oh yes, as we "inflame" away… the typical off topic libelous diversions come out of left field. Perhaps this is all worth a "Cool Story Bro"...
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    I'd recommend a secret shopper picking them up....

    I'd recommend a secret shopper picking them up. They'd then be reimbursed after they identify themselves. This way we can not do anything "special" to the products to gain any edges… as they'd be...
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    Here is what I'd also like to do… as often all we...

    Here is what I'd also like to do… as often all we see is talk and it is likely somehow this comparison is not going to happen.

    How about we (RB) and VTT take pictures of our products as follows:
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    VTT can use the 2+ setup. You know the one that...

    VTT can use the 2+ setup. You know the one that is the best they have in stock frames. We will use our RB's with the smaller compressor and our old 12 blade turbine.

    Rob
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    The fairest comparison would be VTT Stage 2 vs....

    The fairest comparison would be VTT Stage 2 vs. our RB's since they use the same compressor… but we will give the benefit to VTT and let them send VTT Stage 2+'s as they need all the help they can...
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    Turbos of their choice? If so, we may as well...

    Turbos of their choice? If so, we may as well send one of the EVO packages just to obliterate VTT all over. Of course their counter would be to send their Stage 3. We need to determine the choice...
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