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richpike replied to the thread ESS VT3 Shift-S3ctor 1/2 Mile - 174 MPH Trap, BMW/AMG Roll Race Shootout - 1st place!.
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Quote Originally Posted by Sticky View Post
Honestly, I doubt the cars are within 15 miles per hour of each other on the drag strip if not more.
Does that mean you expect to trap 150+ at the strip?

-Rich "

Today, 03:19 PM

ecpchris replied to the thread MPACT East coming July 12, 2014 - BMW, European, and Exotic 1/2 mile side by side racing, car show, and high performance driving event.
" @Fireball9298 have you done any roll racing before?
There will be cars in all different hp levels. I'll try to get my brother in law with k04 DSG to go. Would be good competition unless you have the big turbo in the mail "

Today, 03:18 PM

Sticky replied to the thread Adding the N63TU twin turbo V8 to the 2014 F15 X5 xDrive50i makes for a 5300 pound 12 second SUV.
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Quote Originally Posted by alextremo View Post
To be fair, the pre-lci didn't have the N63TU so it was down 45HP and 30lb-ft but that doesn't seem like enough to make up for the weight difference of the X5.
Exactly.

Are the 550's being dialed back? I don't know.

The N63TU isn't even that big of an advantage: http://www.bimmerboost.com/content.p...ynojet-results "

Today, 03:17 PM

alextremo replied to the thread Adding the N63TU twin turbo V8 to the 2014 F15 X5 xDrive50i makes for a 5300 pound 12 second SUV.
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Quote Originally Posted by Sticky View Post
You raise a really good point. I don't get it with that weight and the same motor it should be running 115+
To be fair, the pre-lci didn't have the N63TU so it was down 45HP and 30lb-ft but that doesn't seem like enough to make up for the weight difference of the X5. "

Today, 03:15 PM

Sticky replied to the thread ESS VT3 Shift-S3ctor 1/2 Mile - 174 MPH Trap, BMW/AMG Roll Race Shootout - 1st place!.
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Quote Originally Posted by Terry@BMS View Post
I'm just saying the results both seem to be in the 174mph range
And I'm strongly disagreeing with you based on the result of when both ran at the same time and with the car being in an even stronger state of tune making the gap wider than before, not closer.

Honestly, I doubt the cars are within 15 miles per hour of each other on the drag strip if not more. That's just my opinion based on supercharged M3 experience with stock and built motor cars with two different blowers which I don't believe anyone here short of the people at Gintani has more of.

Quote Originally Posted by Terry@BMS View Post
Strongly agree a side by side race is the best solution.
Well then hopefully they come out. They won't, but it won't be because I didn't try. "

Today, 03:11 PM

Sticky replied to the thread ESS VT3 Shift-S3ctor 1/2 Mile - 174 MPH Trap, BMW/AMG Roll Race Shootout - 1st place!.
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Quote Originally Posted by nafoo View Post
Hopefully they'll start setting some sort of standard.
The standard should be time to a set speed spread as that takes starting speed or distance out of the equation. Watch how I set my event up. It won't have this cheating for trophies bullshit. "

Today, 03:09 PM

Terry@BMS replied to the thread ESS VT3 Shift-S3ctor 1/2 Mile - 174 MPH Trap, BMW/AMG Roll Race Shootout - 1st place!.
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Quote Originally Posted by Sticky View Post
Honestly, I'm pretty surprised Terry would say something like that with his time on this forum and in automotive performance in general.

He says he has an LSX background. Well, Vortech blowers are very popular in that scene. Doesn't he know the difference between a V3si and a YSI?

How exactly can a 174 trap speed from a previous event even count when there isn't a set distance or speed for acceleration to make the trap a useful comparison tool like it is on the drag strip? And how is a car that is running more boost than before, with a more aggressive tune on C16, going to be 'about the same' ?

It's reaching and I'm surprised.
As far as I know that 174mph was starting from a dig too? We all know a YS should dominate. I'm just saying the results both seem to be in the 174mph range. Strongly agree a side by side race is the best solution. "

Today, 03:09 PM

nafoo replied to the thread ESS VT3 Shift-S3ctor 1/2 Mile - 174 MPH Trap, BMW/AMG Roll Race Shootout - 1st place!.
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Quote Originally Posted by Terry@BMS View Post
If you want my honest opinion, I don't like the rules, and I think people should be banned from including runs before the cones for trophy runs. There should be a standard like 40 or 50mph at the cones and if you floor the car before you are DQd. I think it would make the event safer and a little more fun for everyone. But that's just my opinion. We all knew the rules there so nothing prevented anyone, including myself or Gintani, from starting before the cones and using those traps for trophy runs.
Hopefully they'll start setting some sort of standard. "

Today, 03:08 PM

Sticky replied to the thread ESS VT3 Shift-S3ctor 1/2 Mile - 174 MPH Trap, BMW/AMG Roll Race Shootout - 1st place!.
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Quote Originally Posted by Terry@BMS View Post
Touche'. I need to get me one of those one of these events. I may be a handful for you now that I can shift gears > 600whp.
Exactly so we'll run and have fun. I don't see any problem. "

Today, 03:08 PM

Terry@BMS replied to the thread ESS VT3 Shift-S3ctor 1/2 Mile - 174 MPH Trap, BMW/AMG Roll Race Shootout - 1st place!.
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Quote Originally Posted by Sticky View Post
Touche'. I need to get me one of those one of these events. I may be a handful for you now that I can shift gears > 600whp. "

Today, 03:07 PM

Terry@BMS replied to the thread ESS VT3 Shift-S3ctor 1/2 Mile - 174 MPH Trap, BMW/AMG Roll Race Shootout - 1st place!.
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Quote Originally Posted by nafoo View Post
I'm pretty sure the run Drew hit 174 was the run against the 911 looking at the speedometer on that run. This was also the run he floored it from the starting/staging area.

Does anyone know if the 1/2 starts at the cones or the staging area? It doesn't look like there's a line or any marker where these cars are staging.

It would make sense for the cones to be the 1/2 start marker. Were people who were doing digs starting at the cones or from the staging area?
If you want my honest opinion, I don't like the rules, and I think people should be banned from including runs before the cones for trophy runs. There should be a standard like 40 or 50mph at the cones and if you floor the car before you are DQd. I think it would make the event safer and a little more fun for everyone. But that's just my opinion. We all knew the rules there so nothing prevented anyone, including myself or Gintani, from starting before the cones and using those traps for trophy runs. "

Today, 03:06 PM

Sticky replied to the thread ESS VT3 Shift-S3ctor 1/2 Mile - 174 MPH Trap, BMW/AMG Roll Race Shootout - 1st place!.
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Quote Originally Posted by Terry@BMS View Post
Yes I break down a lot more than I'd like. That's racing. I didn't bring home the BMW trophy because I didn't want to start from a dig and go over 168mph. Not sure I could have beated these guys anyway without risking my stock motor so in a way I didn't have big enough balls to take it home. Drew did. Maybe next time you will.
Terry, I already have these:




If we're counting trophies both you and Drew are trailing me in that department.

I mean what are we even talking about here? Come out to the event and we can run until everyone is content and have a good time. I'll make a best effort trophy so you can have one too "

Today, 03:05 PM

Sticky replied to the thread ESS VT3 Shift-S3ctor 1/2 Mile - 174 MPH Trap, BMW/AMG Roll Race Shootout - 1st place!.
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Quote Originally Posted by nafoo View Post
I'm pretty sure the run Drew hit 174 was the run against the 911 looking at the speedometer on that run. This was also the run he floored it from the starting/staging area.
Honestly, I'm pretty surprised Terry would say something like that with his time on this forum and in automotive performance in general.

He says he has an LSX background. Well, Vortech blowers are very popular in that scene. Doesn't he know the difference between a V3si and a YSI?

How exactly can a 174 trap speed from a previous event even count when there isn't a set distance or speed for acceleration to make the trap a useful comparison tool like it is on the drag strip? And how is a car that is running more boost than before, with a more aggressive tune on C16, going to be 'about the same' ?

It's reaching and I'm surprised. "

Today, 03:04 PM

Terry@BMS replied to the thread ESS VT3 Shift-S3ctor 1/2 Mile - 174 MPH Trap, BMW/AMG Roll Race Shootout - 1st place!.
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Quote Originally Posted by Sticky View Post
You edited but a belt shredding isn't some huge reliability concern. The belt was replaced to prevent this from happening and I wish they just used the belt that had been on there the whole time. Bad stitching, bad belt, it rips, it happens.

I mean your 135 hasn't been the most reliable. The transmission gave out and you can't push it due to these transmission concerns. I don't dial boost back I beef up my parts to handle pushing the limit.

You're entitled to your opinion but we have different approaches. I believe that is why my approach results in far greater performance. I don't mind fixing whatever breaks.
Yes I break down a lot more than I'd like. That's racing. I didn't bring home the BMW trophy because I didn't want to start from a dig and go over 168mph. Not sure I could have bested these guys anyway without risking my stock motor so in a way I didn't have big enough balls to take it home. Drew did. Maybe next time you will. "

Today, 03:03 PM

nafoo replied to the thread ESS VT3 Shift-S3ctor 1/2 Mile - 174 MPH Trap, BMW/AMG Roll Race Shootout - 1st place!.
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Quote Originally Posted by Terry@BMS View Post
You ran a best of 174mph starting before the cones as did Drew, so it seems the cars are fairly evenly matched when both are running?
I'm pretty sure the run Drew hit 174 was the run against the 911 looking at the speedometer on that run. This was also the run he floored it from the starting/staging area.

Does anyone know if the 1/2 starts at the cones or the staging area? It doesn't look like there's a line or any marker where these cars are staging.

It would make sense for the cones to be the 1/2 start marker. Were people who were doing digs starting at the cones or from the staging area? "

Today, 03:01 PM

Terry@BMS replied to the thread ESS VT3 Shift-S3ctor 1/2 Mile - 174 MPH Trap, BMW/AMG Roll Race Shootout - 1st place!.
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Quote Originally Posted by Sticky View Post
Drew's a pussy.
The more I read of this thread the less I want to bother replying to posts in it, lol. But there really isn't any place for this sort of name calling in a race discussion in my opinion. If you and him have a personal issue resolve it personally off the forums. Drew shows up to literally every race, always races both days (I only go for one day), and I've never seen him turn down a race from anyone. Even in cases where his car wasn't running at its best he'd still go out and race. Maybe your car is faster, I don't know, but we really need more people like Drew showing up to every race ready to go. Not speaking to anyone in specific here but it's just too easy for people to stay home, do a VBOX run on a cold night, and claim they are faster than the next guy. People need to show up and race. "

Today, 03:01 PM

Sticky replied to the thread 2014 Stanley Cup Playoffs.
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Quote Originally Posted by nafoo View Post
Not in the mood. "

Today, 02:59 PM

nafoo replied to the thread 2014 Stanley Cup Playoffs.
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Quote Originally Posted by Sticky View Post
Or luck.

If there was anyone who took way too much from a single game despite being offensively dominated... it would be you. Easy there, maybe they should try evening the series first?

Ducks in 5.
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Today, 02:57 PM

Sticky replied to the thread ESS VT3 Shift-S3ctor 1/2 Mile - 174 MPH Trap, BMW/AMG Roll Race Shootout - 1st place!.
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Quote Originally Posted by Terry@BMS View Post
PS. Reliability isn't the be-all end all but its also a factor. Breaking down a run here and there is OK but if you keep breaking down during races then I don't think you can also claim to be the fastest. The car has to make the runs with some level of consistency IMHO.
You edited but a belt shredding isn't some huge reliability concern. The belt was replaced to prevent this from happening and I wish they just used the belt that had been on there the whole time. Bad stitching, bad belt, it rips, it happens.

I mean your 135 hasn't been the most reliable. The transmission gave out and you can't push it due to these transmission concerns. I don't dial boost back I beef up my parts to handle pushing the limit.

You're entitled to your opinion but we have different approaches. I believe that is why my approach results in far greater performance. I don't mind fixing whatever breaks. "

Today, 02:56 PM

Sticky replied to the thread ESS VT3 Shift-S3ctor 1/2 Mile - 174 MPH Trap, BMW/AMG Roll Race Shootout - 1st place!.
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Quote Originally Posted by Terry@BMS View Post
You ran a best of 174mph starting before the cones as did Drew, so it seems the cars are fairly evenly matched when both are running?
You're smarter than that.

Quote Originally Posted by Terry@BMS View Post
I generally only race from the cones at a 50 roll so my traps are a bit slower.
Reference my above statement. Exactly, traps vary as this isn't a drag strip with a set start and distance.

Quote Originally Posted by Terry@BMS View Post
But I think I'm in the conversation.
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Today, 02:54 PM