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SCGT replied to the thread Effects of heat tape on charge pipe and cold side FMIC piping.
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Quote Originally Posted by mycoupe View Post
Interesting idea. I would think you'd be better served with a reflective heatshield though. BMW went with plastic over aluminum or other metals because OF the heat transfer rate of plastic. It resists heat better and sheds it quicker. So, that's why I would leave the plastic bare, but create a barrier between it and the heat source. That's my opinion anyway.
My charge pipe is not plastic. It's the BMS one (CP-E) and does not have the same heat retention/shedding properties as one made of plastic, nor the limitation in a hot dry climate that makes plastic/rubber turn to dust rather quickly. Shields are always good though for sure.

Quote Originally Posted by Sticky View Post
Awesome graph and some great data! Much respect @SCGT great stuff. The wrap makes an appreciable difference.
Thank you. I hope to have decent data that's actually useful for people to look at even if it's just small stuff. I put a lot of effort into minimizing or eliminating variables between the tests. I think real world differences are on the small side and very easy to get useful data (or lack thereof) lost in the multitude of variables typically present in non-laboratory conditions.

Quote Originally Posted by dzenno@PTF View Post
Good stuff actually! I've done the same last year on my car. All the charge piping is wrapped from the turbos to the intake manifold. Certainly can't hurt
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Yesterday, 07:50 PM

SCGT created the thread Effects of heat tape on charge pipe and cold side FMIC piping.
" After installation of my VRSF 7" FMIC, I noticed that upon throttle dip in, my charge temps would drop several degrees. I figured this was indicative of heat soak through FMIC cold side piping/charge pipe, so I did some data logging at idle to find out.

I chose idle, in a garaged setting, because I can control nearly every variable rendering charge air temp differences to solely be attributed to the heat tape wrapping. I logged charge air temps vs. ambient every 30 seconds until the charge air temps no longer increased (heat soak). It took a little under an hour.

Car is a 2007 BMW 335i, brentuned E85 map, VSRF 7" FMIC, BMS DCI, BMS charge pipe, Forge DV's. The experiment was done in a garage (minimal circulating flow) under identical ambient temperatures, both times the car was cooled down for a minimum of 12 hours prior to commencing test. The heat tape was thermo-tec:

http://www.thermotec.com/products/14...mo-shield.html

The bottom line is that it does actually make a difference in charge air temps. You can see where the graphs diverge, the point at which radiant heat in the engine bay starts to effect charge air temps. It's not a huge difference, but since I live in the desert, and don't want to run meth I was looking for some easy ways to control temps. The next step for this will be to dive into the DCI vs. Cold Air intake experiments, which I believe a huge percentage of the data out there is either flawed or not applicable to very hot climates. "

06-02-2013, 10:37 PM