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      Congratulations to OE Tuning! The OE Tuning C63 set record times today at the Sacremento Drag strip. With only a tune and full exhaust including headers on pump gas (with drag radials) the car ran 11.15@125 with a 1.763 60 foot. A 60-130 time was run as well which is a new record time for the Stage 2 OE Tuning car at 8.19. Simply fantastic results and 10's are within reach with a better 60 foot. This setup is exactly how the car is driven daily, without the Nitto NT555R drag radials of course.

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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Barfly Click here to enlarge
        He takes jabs, he gets jabs taken at him. Such is life.
        Heh, true, if he deserved it. All he said was the tracks were better, not an insult to anyone.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Barfly Click here to enlarge
        Still looking for a quantitative measure for the "MIR/ATCO advantage", frankly there is none. It's just winter racing at a coastal track.
        Maybe let's stop looking at the tracks themselves and simply look at the conditions. Do these areas offer a density altitude advantage compared to California Winter? You bet.

        Will a car run faster in negative DA? You bet.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Barfly Click here to enlarge
        Nope, further north. The East Coast guys drive 7-14 hrs to get to MIR, CA guys should expect to do the same.
        I have done multiple 7 hour trips to Sac. I'm just not sure how much further North you want me to go.
      1. Barfly's Avatar
        Barfly -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        This is exactly my point. Why would one not want to go to AZ? Obviously because better times are going to be set at ATCO and MIR. If I could choose ANYWHERE to set a record time, I would choose one of those, in the Winter.
        You don't see -450' at Firebird, and you don't have the benefit of malfunctioning timing equipment adding 3-4mph to your trap either.

        I guess it's time for the OE crew to make a trip to MD then?

        No, I don't understand why people are making a comparison to other runs. My whole point of bringing up the DA and that this is a West Coast record is because the conditions matter. For some reason, some guys are taking this negatively which I don't understand. Maybe MHP guys are just used to the fights on MBW?
        Actually I think Sammy brought up the 60-130 comparison.

        Conditions matter you're right and guess what, OE's car was running in -450' DA and went 11.1@125, MHPs car ran in +1250' DA and went 10.78#131 with dozens of other passes to back it. Which one is more impressive to you?

        MHP guys don't get into fights on MBW anymore because the numbers speak for themselves.

        I will be honest, this whole east coast/west coast thing is a joke. You're either number #1 in the world or you're not. End of story.
      1. Barfly's Avatar
        Barfly -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Heh, true, if he deserved it. All he said was the tracks were better, not an insult to anyone.
        He reaps what he sews.

        Maybe let's stop looking at the tracks themselves and simply look at the conditions. Do these areas offer a density altitude advantage compared to California Winter? You bet.
        Sticky stop generalizing, we're talking about a -450' day vs a +1250' day. We have exact dates and data, why generalize?? You are trying to make this far more complex than it needs to be. If you correct OE's numbers the trap will go down and the ET will go up. The opposite is true of dodger's numbers.

        Will a car run faster in negative DA? You bet.
        We both agree to this but as pointed out above it seems like you don't want to concede the fact that someone else ran quicker/faster in significantly worse air.

        I have done multiple 7 hour trips to Sac. I'm just not sure how much further North you want me to go.
        You live on the West coast, you must know what tracks are fast out there. I'm not sure where in CA you are but you may have to drive 14 hrs just like some of the MIR guys.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Barfly Click here to enlarge
        You don't see -450' at Firebird, and you don't have the benefit of malfunctioning timing equipment adding 3-4mph to your trap either.

        I guess it's time for the OE crew to make a trip to MD then?
        No, why? It is simply important to point out that different regions will produce different results. Would not be fair to compare Firebird to Atco right?

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Barfly Click here to enlarge
        ctually I think Sammy brought up the 60-130 comparison.

        Conditions matter you're right and guess what, OE's car was running in -450' DA and went 11.1@125, MHPs car ran in +1250' DA and went 10.78#131 with dozens of other passes to back it. Which one is more impressive to you?

        MHP guys don't get into fights on MBW anymore because the numbers speak for themselves.

        I will be honest, this whole east coast/west coast thing is a joke. You're either number #1 in the world or you're not. End of story.
        Absolutely true, you either have the fastest time or you don't and that is how you have to play the game. So, for guys on the West Coast their best choice is Sac.

        Yes, an MHP car also ran around 11.19 I believe in -1500. These aren't apples to apples comparisons. We just need to look at the conditions to get a better idea. Only way to have a true comparison is to actually run heads up, same time, same place. We are smart enough to interpret the conditions and realize they are not absolutes. That is why it is pointed out this time is a West Coast time.

        I'm glad to hear that, for a while I heard the stories about MHP clients being silenced despite the great results which is ridiculous.
      1. Dodger63's Avatar
        Dodger63 -
        Track prep a little vht and some drs really don't need much more in these cars!
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Barfly Click here to enlarge
        Sticky stop generalizing, we're talking about a -450' day vs a +1250' day. We have exact dates and data, why generalize?? You are trying to make this far more complex than it needs to be. If you correct OE's numbers the trap will go down and the ET will go up. The opposite is true of dodger's numbers.
        I'm not really trying to do anything other than say I believe MIR and ATCO are in great areas for drag racing due to favorable conditions.

        Due to the California climate, Sac will never see the potential that is available at MIR on certain days. Obviously every run at MIR is not in -3000 DA.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Barfly Click here to enlarge
        We both agree to this but as pointed out above it seems like you don't want to concede the fact that someone else ran quicker/faster in significantly worse air.
        What are you talking about? The front page has the announcement for the fastest times on it currently which are from MHP, which is a premier vendor here. What do you mean don't want to concede? There is no comparison being drawn here, there is not even a desire for that.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Barfly Click here to enlarge
        You live on the West coast, you must know what tracks are fast out there. I'm not sure where in CA you are but you may have to drive 14 hrs just like some of the MIR guys.
        I think most people know I have never been one to have an aversion to driving to a quick track. That is the reason I go from LA to Sacramento to begin with. If there is a faster track than Sac within 14 hours, please, let me know.
      1. Barfly's Avatar
        Barfly -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        No, why? It is simply important to point out that different regions will produce different results. Would not be fair to compare Firebird to Atco right?
        No it would not however geography means squat if you have DA numbers to compare with, and we do. DA takes into account base altitude as well, and we could easily compare numbers between the two cars at a standardized sea level altitude although the gap between them would simply grow larger.

        Absolutely true, you either have the fastest time or you don't and that is how you have to play the game. So, for guys on the West Coast their best choice is Sac.
        Sac with an "*" lol. If MIR had faulty timing equipment the East Coast guys would go to Cecil Co, ATCO, Rockingham, etc. If you're going for credibility why choose a venue with faulty timing equipment? I don't get it.

        Yes, an MHP car also ran around 11.9 I believe in -1500. These aren't apples to apples comparisons. We just need to look at the conditions to get a better idea. Only way to have a true comparison is to actually run heads up, same time, same place. We are smart enough to interpret the conditions and realize they are not absolutes. That is why it is pointed out this time is a West Coast time.
        Which MHP car was that? They have 4 running in the 11s (last I check that's more than any other tuner by 3 cars) with tuning/DRs including both positive and negative DA at tracks around the world.

        The West Coast vs East Coast thing is like ebonics, it simply should not be tolerated, C63s are C63s whether they are running in negative DA on the West Coast or positive DA on the East Coast or vice versa. Just note the weather conditions with the pass and group them all into 1. Or we could correct all times in which case dodger goes 10.60@134.

        I'm glad to hear that, for a while I heard the stories about MHP clients being silenced despite the great results which is ridiculous.
        Me as well, MBW is going down the tubes and I think everyone knows that as well.
      1. Even Money's Avatar
        Even Money -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mthis Click here to enlarge
        That sounds like a nice setup. Who's car supers? What 17's did u guys chose?
        Super will be there, at least we should be an even match. He has almost the same setup, and also the evo rotors. ACGSD is looking for some 17" rims, I think HRE is about to release a 17" R40. I guess I'm gonna have to get a roll bar, as I should be close or below 11.5
      1. Dodger63's Avatar
        Dodger63 -
        I have one thong to say get in your cars drive cross country and run at Mir or atco.. If not run your tracks and stop arguing what's better.
      1. Barfly's Avatar
        Barfly -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I'm not really trying to do anything other than say I believe MIR and ATCO are in great areas for drag racing due to favorable conditions.

        Due to the California climate, Sac will never see the potential that is available at MIR on certain days. Obviously every run at MIR is not in -3000 DA.
        They are some of many great tracks in this country, believe it or not HRP gets -1500' DA in the winter with tailwinds so it's also a very fast track despite being centrally located in a warmer area.

        On the days in question however, and as you stated, should be noted (details) +1250 (actually 1150 for Mike's run) vs -450' is something to be noted.


        What are you talking about? The front page has the announcement for the fastest times on it currently which are from MHP, which is a premier vendor here. What do you mean don't want to concede? There is no comparison being drawn here, there is not even a desire for that.
        The comparison started with the 60-130 time in this post and went on from there, I was not even a part of it until it became obvious to the point it is now. OE is also a premiere vendor and it is clear they are attempting to compete with MHP. Good for them, competition is a good thing, but let's not muddy the water with East vs West Coast especially when the main factor behind the segregating the stats is weather and again it was role reversal time in that dept here.

        I think most people know I have never been one to have an aversion to driving to a quick track. That is the reason I go from LA to Sacramento to begin with. If there is a faster track than Sac within 14 hours, please, let me know.
        What's your Zip?
      1. Barfly's Avatar
        Barfly -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Dodger63 Click here to enlarge
        I have one thong to say get in your cars drive cross country and run at Mir or atco.. If not run your tracks and stop arguing what's better.
        End of story.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Barfly Click here to enlarge
        Sac with an "*" lol. If MIR had faulty timing equipment the East Coast guys would go to Cecil Co, ATCO, Rockingham, etc. If you're going for credibility why choose a venue with faulty timing equipment? I don't get it
        You know what, I don't really understand it either but I have had to play this stupid game as well. I have run at Famoso and then had to make the trek to Sac because everyone else was going to Sac to inflate their numbers. It would really solve everyone's problem if the track owners would maintain the track properly.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Barfly Click here to enlarge
        No it would not however geography means squat if you have DA numbers to compare with, and we do. DA takes into account base altitude as well, and we could easily compare numbers between the two cars at a standardized sea level altitude although the gap between them would simply grow larger.
        Exactly, but to have DA you need to know where it was run and when. So, important to point out where this took place.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Barfly Click here to enlarge
        Which MHP car was that? They have 4 running in the 11s (last I check that's more than any other tuner by 3 cars) with tuning/DRs including both positive and negative DA at tracks around the world.

        The West Coast vs East Coast thing is like ebonics, it simply should not be tolerated, C63s are C63s whether they are running in negative DA on the West Coast or positive DA on the East Coast or vice versa. Just note the weather conditions with the pass and group them all into 1. Or we could correct all times in which case dodger goes 10.60@134.
        It was a typo, I was referring to the low 11 second run by Mthis. I meant to do 11.19, just didn't notice I was missing the extra 1.

        There really is no West Coast vs. East Coast thing. It simply is reality that the majority of times run by tuned C63's have been on the East Coast. There really weren't any people active in C63 tuning going to the track here on the West Coast until now. The cars run what they run, but let's look at this as a positive achievement for the other half of the country not a desire to create come rivalry.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Barfly Click here to enlarge
        Me as well, MBW is going down the tubes and I think everyone knows that as well.
        I think so, but I also think many are unaware as to the alternatives. Google will take care of that in due time, my next focus is the SEO implementation of BenzBoost.
      1. Barfly's Avatar
        Barfly -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Even Money Click here to enlarge
        Super will be there, at least we should be an even match. He has almost the same setup, and also the evo rotors. ACGSD is looking for some 17" rims, I think HRE is about to release a 17" R40. I guess I'm gonna have to get a roll bar, as I should be close or below 11.5
        Are they strict with rollbars there?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Barfly Click here to enlarge
        On the days in question however, and as you stated, should be noted (details) +1250 (actually 1150 for Mike's run) vs -450' is something to be noted.
        This is pointed out pretty clearly.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Barfly Click here to enlarge
        The comparison started with the 60-130 time in this post and went on from there, I was not even a part of it until it became obvious to the point it is now. OE is also a premiere vendor and it is clear they are attempting to compete with MHP. Good for them, competition is a good thing, but let's not muddy the water with East vs West Coast especially when the main factor behind the segregating the stats is weather and again it was role reversal time in that dept here.
        I think there is more than enough room for everyone. I think these two groups should support one another and there should not be animosity. Same team here really, this energy should be directed at toppling the MBW empire.

        Also, traditionally, when drag dates and times have been shown (like by MBforever) he does mention if the fast times were on the West Coast or East Coast. So, something the community is kind of already accustomed to.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Barfly Click here to enlarge
        What's your Zip?
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      1. Dodger63's Avatar
        Dodger63 -
        I hear there is a better track on the east coast that's suppose to be better then atco and Mir.... I learned this from a true drag racer.. I will be going there in the near future to find out
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Dodger63 Click here to enlarge
        I hear there is a better track on the east coast that's suppose to be better then atco and Mir.... I learned this from a true drag racer.. I will be going there in the near future to find out
        Which one?
      1. Barfly's Avatar
        Barfly -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        You know what, I don't really understand it either but I have had to play this stupid game as well. I have run at Famoso and then had to make the trek to Sac because everyone else was going to Sac to inflate their numbers. It would really solve everyone's problem if the track owners would maintain the track properly.
        The question then becomes do we weather correct for all runs? Do both post actual and corrected? I agree Sac needs to fix the timing equipment, someone should start a petition. I can't believe they haven't lost their sanctioning if they haven't already... Just nuts.

        Exactly, but to have DA you need to know where it was run and when. So, important to point out where this took place.
        That goes without saying, I'm saying once you have the DA what difference does it make? And we have both DAs.

        It was a typo, I was referring to the low 11 second run by Mthis. I meant to do 11.19, just didn't notice I was missing the extra 1.
        Gotcha, sorry didn't know which 11 sec mhp car you were talking about because there are a few lol.

        There really is no West Coast vs. East Coast thing. It simply is reality that the majority of times run by tuned C63's have been on the East Coast. There really weren't any people active in C63 tuning going to the track here on the West Coast until now. The cars run what they run, but let's look at this as a positive achievement for the other half of the country not a desire to create come rivalry.
        Actually that's not entirely true, talk to Exeenom/MB_Forever about his rentals, there have been tuned C63s running at his rentals for over 2 years, just tune, tune/DR, tune/full exhaust/pulley, etc.

        I'm not knocking OE in the slightest I just disagree with there needing to be a separate category created for the West coast guys especially when their air was 1700' better than the East coast guys last rental.

        Having East vs West is like having the WNBA, if you're a female and good enough to play with the rest of the pros then step up to the NBA. OE is obviously not a "female" but you get my point. There should be one measuring stick for C63s, if we can list DA with the passes that would be even better. Simply listing track/date would be a disservice as how many people would have though 2/18 at MIR would have been 75F?



        I think so, but I also think many are unaware as to the alternatives. Google will take care of that in due time, my next focus is the SEO implementation of BenzBoost.[/QUOTE]
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Here is the video of the run btw:

        <iframe width="960" height="380" src="http://contour.com/stories/oe-tuning-c63-sacramento-raceway-park-22711/embed?map=true" frameborder="0"></iframe>
      1. Barfly's Avatar
        Barfly -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        This is pointed out pretty clearly.
        By creating separate classes based on weather, and that's what west vs east is, a comparison of DA/weather in this case it's doing the opposite. Pulling the factions apart.

        I think there is more than enough room for everyone. I think these two groups should support one another and there should not be animosity. Same team here really, this energy should be directed at toppling the MBW empire.
        I don't see anyone from MHP disrespecting anyone from OE or vice versa. I see a valid debate and points that were not highlighted enough have been brought to light. Good thread IMO. Only one of your premiere sponsors is toppling MBW, the other is advertising on it lol.

        Also, traditionally, when drag dates and times have been shown (like by MBforever) he does mention if the fast times were on the West Coast or East Coast. So, something the community is kind of already accustomed to.
        Hey I'm all for more data, DA, track, tire pressure, whatever, but again to take it so far as to separate titles is going too far. Mention it after the pass, don't create another category for N/A C63s, that does nothing for anyone.



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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Barfly Click here to enlarge
        The question then becomes do we weather correct for all runs? Do both post actual and corrected? I agree Sac needs to fix the timing equipment, someone should start a petition. I can't believe they haven't lost their sanctioning if they haven't already... Just nuts.
        I think people just post their slips as it is done now and guys mention the DA.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Barfly Click here to enlarge
        That goes without saying, I'm saying once you have the DA what difference does it make? And we have both DAs.
        Well, yep, it goes without saying so I don't see the disagreement here.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Barfly Click here to enlarge
        Actually that's not entirely true, talk to Exeenom/MB_Forever about his rentals, there have been tuned C63s running at his rentals for over 2 years, just tune, tune/DR, tune/full exhaust/pulley, etc.

        I'm not knocking OE in the slightest I just disagree with there needing to be a separate category created for the West coast guys especially when their air was 1700' better than the East coast guys last rental.

        Having East vs West is like having the WNBA, if you're a female and good enough to play with the rest of the pros then step up to the NBA. OE is obviously not a "female" but you get my point. There should be one measuring stick for C63s, if we can list DA with the passes that would be even better. Simply listing track/date would be a disservice as how many people would have though 2/18 at MIR would have been 75F?
        I'm very familiar with Mo and the rentals Click here to enlarge

        I don't think there is a separate category, the times on the 1/4 mile are listed in order of ET. This is simply an achievement for the West Coast and nothing wrong with giving a little credit here to the West Coast. Overall on the list, it makes no difference as it goes in order of times not regions. This is simply a title on the front page, and the goal is to get people reading and interested with a catchy headline.

        There is only one measuring stick in the 1/4 mile list, so I'm not really sure what disagreement there is.