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    • MotorTrend states the F10 M5 may be automatic only? DCT abandoned?

      All this time we were under the impression the F10 M5 would be getting a DCT gearbox. BMW apparently tried to get the M DCT supplied by Getrag to work but stronger actuators were necessary which slowed down the response time. Motortrend is now stating the car will be auto only. Uh, BMW, this is an M car, not M SUV. We understand why the X5 M and X6 M have autos, but the M5? No manual option? What the hell is going on?

      What does not make sense to us is that Getrag has higher torque capacity dual clutch transmissions, such as the unit in the Ferrari California. This unit is capable of 553 pound-feet, so why not use it? Nissan's GR6 by Borg Warner can handle 650 pound-feet, this is also a good option. There are dual clutches up to the task, we do not understand why BMW is settling for an 8 speed automatic that likely will not even be that strong.

      Additionally, if they intend to use an automatic a manual option should go without saying. Cadillac manages to do this on their high torque CTS-V, BMW should not have to be told as they have a manual available up to the task. We have entered the BMW twilight zone.


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      1. Remonster's Avatar
        Remonster -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        The manual in the E60 M5 was very weird. People clamored for it and then it didn't sell, everyone wanted SMG. I find it weird that the US got the manual but we don't get the things we really need (M3 GTS, M3 CSL, etc.).
        I actually got to test drive that manual M5 that was on the dealer lot and it felt kind of weird to me. You could tell it was a total after thought, if you get the chance to drive an E39 M5 and manual E60 back to back you'll probably know what I mean right away even though I couldn't put my finger on what was so off about it.

        Overall though, that was one hell of a car and if I could afford it I would have definitely bought it. I just think the average buyer of a luxury car like that knows that they can't drive a manual well enough and will look like a douche in front of their friends.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Remonster Click here to enlarge
        I just think the average buyer of a luxury car like that knows that they can't drive a manual well enough and will look like a douche in front of their friends.
        I don't think that is it. I think it is more along the lines of it being a car for a slightly older demographic buying a 4 door sedan. Comfort and usability are a priority, also dealing with traffic.
      1. Sorena's Avatar
        Sorena -
        i read somewhere 8 Speed ZF only can handle 750NM ,but the more important thing is ZF offers a DCT tranny which can handle 1000NM
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sorena Click here to enlarge
        i read somewhere 8 Speed ZF only can handle 750NM ,but the more important thing is ZF offers a DCT tranny which can handle 1000NM
        There are a few DCT's from their suppliers up to the task which is why this does not make sense.