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    • MotorTrend states the F10 M5 may be automatic only? DCT abandoned?

      All this time we were under the impression the F10 M5 would be getting a DCT gearbox. BMW apparently tried to get the M DCT supplied by Getrag to work but stronger actuators were necessary which slowed down the response time. Motortrend is now stating the car will be auto only. Uh, BMW, this is an M car, not M SUV. We understand why the X5 M and X6 M have autos, but the M5? No manual option? What the hell is going on?

      What does not make sense to us is that Getrag has higher torque capacity dual clutch transmissions, such as the unit in the Ferrari California. This unit is capable of 553 pound-feet, so why not use it? Nissan's GR6 by Borg Warner can handle 650 pound-feet, this is also a good option. There are dual clutches up to the task, we do not understand why BMW is settling for an 8 speed automatic that likely will not even be that strong.

      Additionally, if they intend to use an automatic a manual option should go without saying. Cadillac manages to do this on their high torque CTS-V, BMW should not have to be told as they have a manual available up to the task. We have entered the BMW twilight zone.


      This article was originally published in forum thread: MotorTrend states the F10 M5 may be automatic only? DCT abandoned? started by Sticky View original post
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      1. 1cleanAMG's Avatar
        1cleanAMG -
        I dont understand what has happened to BMW. Its really sad.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
        I dont understand what has happened to BMW. Its really sad.
        How does it keep on getting worse?
      1. 1cleanAMG's Avatar
        1cleanAMG -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        How does it keep on getting worse?
        What?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
        What?
        BMW.. how do their decisions keep spiraling downward, I don't understand.
      1. 1cleanAMG's Avatar
        1cleanAMG -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        BMW.. how do their decisions keep spiraling downward, I don't understand.
        It seems that they are putting sportiness and heritage on the back burner and more focused on Electric cars, Hybrid cars and MPG.
      1. GG///M3's Avatar
        GG///M3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
        I dont understand what has happened to BMW. Its really sad.
        This all started after production stopped on the e36.







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      1. alq80's Avatar
        alq80 -
        Wow this is surprising. If they use autos you are right about the need for manual option especially since they offer the 550i in manual.

        DCTs are awesome, and the M5 would be much more lively with one!
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alq80 Click here to enlarge
        If they use autos you are right about the need for manual option especially since they offer the 550i in manual.
        Exactly, what a slap in the face that would be.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alq80 Click here to enlarge
        DCTs are awesome, and the M5 would be much more lively with one!
        I never thought I would see the day an M car would come in auto only. They can do a manual, they better.
      1. DarkPhantom's Avatar
        DarkPhantom -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        BMW.. how do their decisions keep spiraling downward, I don't understand.
        They must have a woman in charge... Click here to enlarge

        Get the authentic M cars while you can...cause soon, it'll be low revving with autos and turbos...
      1. Yukohama's Avatar
        Yukohama -
        great... i hope these rumors r false... or major EPIC FAIL
      1. DBFIU's Avatar
        DBFIU -
        i think its just rumors...
      1. MSIZZLE's Avatar
        MSIZZLE -
        Then put back an updated smg!I for one love the rawness of it
      1. fastgti69's Avatar
        fastgti69 -
        this is sad and pathetic. i better get my e46 m3 before somebody tries to make it an automatic.


        bmw being the ultimate driving machine= FAIL.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSIZZLE Click here to enlarge
        Then put back an updated smg!I for one love the rawness of it
        Same here, an SMG makes more sense than this auto junk.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DBFIU Click here to enlarge
        i think its just rumors...
        If Motortrend gets this wrong I lose major respect for them. You can't report something like this as definitive as with their title, "Why the 2012 BMW M5 is M’s First Automatic-Only Car" only for it to turn out to be false.
      1. M3_WC's Avatar
        M3_WC -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
        I dont understand what has happened to BMW. Its really sad.
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        How does it keep on getting worse?
        Seriously, what the hell is going on? Who the $#@! is making these insane decisions as of late, because I would like to give them swift kick to the nuts? Honestly, is all this just a bad dream?
      1. fastgti69's Avatar
        fastgti69 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
        Seriously, what the hell is going on? Who the $#@! is making these insane decisions as of late, because I would like to give them swift kick to the nuts? Honestly, is all this just a bad dream?
        for us.. it's a nightmare bro
      1. Sorena's Avatar
        Sorena -
        i don't buy these rumors. Look at spy videos , those shifting are too fast to be automatic
        check out 0:28
      1. dOpEdUpM3's Avatar
        dOpEdUpM3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DBFIU Click here to enlarge
        i think its just rumors...
        I have my fingers are crossed.
      1. fastgti69's Avatar
        fastgti69 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sorena Click here to enlarge
        i don't buy these rumors. Look at spy videos , those shifting are too fast to be automatic
        you may be onto something...