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    • Here it is, the 1M Coupe - Pictures and Official Specs, 335 hp N54 - The new M "era" begins

      Here we finally have it. No more teaser videos, no more showing a fender here or there, no more hype, this is the real deal. BMW gives us the final product and by no accident chose to show it with the E30 M3. Putting the 1M Coupe which has accomplished nothing up on the lofty pedestal of comparisons with the E30 M3, arguably the greatest BMW M ever made, is not showing the E30 M3 the proper respect. It is not a spiritual successor to the E30 M3. However, that is a debate for another time and let's focus on the specs and photos.

      The motor and tune is the exact same as the 335is and 2011 Z4 sDrive35is. Nothing special here folks, same N54, same 335 hp. Disappointing? In our opinion, for an M, yes. This shares the same motor as other cars in the lineup with no changes. Not even a different tune? In our opinion, the powerplant is a major letdown.

      The transmission is a 6-speed with extra cooling which it no doubt will need for the guys who take this thing out of the track. It sends power to the "M" differential which is just a part derived from the E92 M3. The borrowing from the M3 does not stop there, as the suspension is lifted from the M3 as well. Starting to see a pattern here? No doubt you see it with the wheels which are lifted from the M3 competition package with 245/35/19 and 265/35/19 tire measurements. How about those brakes? Lifted from the M3 as well.

      So far we have a parts bin car with the same motor already available and the same parts that were already designed. So... where is the "M" magic? In the body work of course. Look at those great fenders! The car certainly looks like it is a real M car. That counts, why do you think we got all those teasers of fenders and bumpers?

      The car will sell, they will sell every last one. People have already bought the hype. This isn't an E30 M3 and never will be one. As the guys at insideline put it so well, "No doubt the carmaker would like to recast the 2011 BMW 1 Series M as a spiritual successor to that beloved M3. That's a pipe dream." It is a great looking car that will be fun to drive but this new M era has us shaking our heads in disappointment of what M has now become.


















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      1. mazdaspeed6's Avatar
        mazdaspeed6 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Matt@Camber-Toe Click here to enlarge
        I might be stepping down this road in the next year Click here to enlarge
        i mean you can pm me and give me a hint lol
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno Click here to enlarge
        Up until now I didn't realize he'd be up to saying/doing that sh*t...always seemed legit to me...is this just based on what you heard from "that" guy that time or has it come to light in some thread at one time or another?
        Guy isn't legit and we don't really need to spend any more time on him as he is not relevant. I am basing it on several things like him not telling people he works as a service advisor at Steven Thomas BMW so he gets deals on leases (that is why he gets them) yet he goes around saying he could afford this M3 or that, it's a joke. Also, when he messed up the transmission he brought it in to get it fixed on BMW's dime and who really knows what happened as we didn't get the true story since he will post when things go well but not when they don't. If you notice in his post history he always downplays what is done like getting special files from Terry and claiming the car is "basically stock" which is basically retarded. I don't trust him at all since he misleads people with inflated times and you have bought into some of that.

        He would strip weight out of his car and run it at the track and claim it was basically stock, just ridiculous stuff like that. Unless you believe for some reason his car traps much more than the others all things being equal? All things were not equal and that is why his data and contributions are useless and anything but legit. Who cares, he is irrelevant now anyway and we should focus on real people getting out to the strip and their realistic times like what we got from ATCO that hold far more relevance.
      1. M3_WC's Avatar
        M3_WC -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno Click here to enlarge
        **** By the way, he still owns his 2008 335i coupe...where did you get the idea he gave it up to someone else on a lease?
        He doesn't own his 2008 335i coupe anymore. Well he never really did, it was a lease. Yes, Sticky is correct he is a Service Advisor at a SoCal dealer and yes he gets deals on leases. Then proceeds to put NOS on them, $#@!s the tranny up and then turns it in (whether you feel that is immoral or not, that is up to you). Now he has a fresh lease on a 335d, let see what he does to that car.

        Quote by Hotrod on Bpost, when asked by Mr.5 what happened to his coupe:

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by hotrod182 Click here to enlarge
        As far as the coupe, that car ran perfectly post-nitrous. It was a great running car. Just got rid of it in anticipation of getting an 2010 N54.
        I smell BS.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
        He doesn't own his 2008 335i coupe anymore. Well he never really did, it was a lease. Yes, Sticky is correct he is a Service Advisor at a SoCal dealer and yes he gets deals on leases. Then proceeds to put NOS on them, $#@!s the tranny up and then turns it in (whether you feel that is immoral or not, that is up to you). Now he has a fresh lease on a 335d, let see what he does to that car.

        Quote by Hotrod on Bpost, when asked by Mr.5 what happened to his coupe:

        I smell BS.
        Right on, a huge load of BS.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        I just read this thread over and I think my tone on the 1M and in general was a bit harsh. I guess it is hard for me to hide my disappointment in M but I do believe this will be a nice car, I'm just disappointed.

        Has nothing to do with you N54 guys.
      1. dzenno@PTF's Avatar
        dzenno@PTF -
        here's some feedback from hotrod after I asked him about his results:

        Hotrod:
        "Have no idea why he would say such a thing. I used the same nozzle in my 60-130 run as Sacramento, etc. Just didn't have a full bottle at Sacramento, therefore my traps only read 132.7 mph. I don't care what size nozzle people think I used anyways. I already took pictures of the nozzles I had. Those are all I ever had to use, period. One nozzle says 24, the other 28. So does that mean a 28 shot, or .28 size? I have no idea. Had no experience with nitrous, and just used the kit I bought off of Brian135."

        Another member (CBR335):
        "I can vouch for Warren on the nozzles as he sent me pics of them when I asked the question of nozzle size, etc. In addition, I can tell you from personal experience that his tune + intake sedan is a fast as most fully modded cars on the highway. I don't know how, but there are two of us on the forums that have racced him personally and then inspected his car for meth/nitrous, etc. His car was freakishly fast, period...on pump gas."

        Hotrod again:
        "I couldn't get that link to work, but I don't really care about what people are saying who have never even looked at my car. I remember people saying my 60-130 times were impossible and faked. To each his own I guess. But I'm not really going to waste my time trying to prove otherwise.

        Actually, everyone has their opinions/guesses/suspicions. I have no reason to lie about whats on my car. If it makes you feel better, fantasize about me using a 300hp wetshot. Whatever makes you feel better, go for it. If it came down to money and you wanted to put $1000 on the line to prove I was using any other jets than what is shown here, then go for it. Shiv was sure I was using nitrous when I beat him before. Trapping around 124mph. So I proved what happens when I do use nitrous. And all this imagining my trans blew up. If you read my build up journal, I made dozens of runs after removing the nitrous (you can see them on video) with flawless transmission operation. That car always ran great, and still runs great. Just because you go into a failsafe mode doesn't mean something is destroyed, lol. "

        Whatever, to each his own...time will tell the story on the N54 potential and who was right/wrong...i'm done with this topic Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno Click here to enlarge
        Hotrod:
        "Have no idea why he would say such a thing. I used the same nozzle in my 60-130 run as Sacramento, etc. Just didn't have a full bottle at Sacramento, therefore my traps only read 132.7 mph. I don't care what size nozzle people think I used anyways. I already took pictures of the nozzles I had. Those are all I ever had to use, period. One nozzle says 24, the other 28. So does that mean a 28 shot, or .28 size? I have no idea. Had no experience with nitrous, and just used the kit I bought off of Brian135."
        I know someone who was there when he was doing his Vbox runs and he told him the size of the nozzle he was using, ok?

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno Click here to enlarge
        Another member (CBR335):
        "I can vouch for Warren on the nozzles as he sent me pics of them when I asked the question of nozzle size, etc. In addition, I can tell you from personal experience that his tune + intake sedan is a fast as most fully modded cars on the highway. I don't know how, but there are two of us on the forums that have racced him personally and then inspected his car for meth/nitrous, etc. His car was freakishly fast, period...on pump gas."
        How is this vouching? I can send someone pics of nozzles too claiming a size that isn't proof of anything. Hell, I don't even have nitrous and I could do it. Freakishly fast? LOL, ok.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno Click here to enlarge
        Whatever, to each his own...time will tell the story on the N54 potential and who was right/wrong...i'm done with this topic
        We are at where we are at with the platform and it simply isn't a ZR-1 killer or a supra for that matter. It is a nice little motor but nothing like an S54 or S65 when it comes to top performance. As I said, you overestimate it. A guy squeezing a ton of nitrous in his car, breaking it, and then quietly getting rid of it doesn't prove much of anything, some service advisor.
      1. dzenno@PTF's Avatar
        dzenno@PTF -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I know someone who was there when he was doing his Vbox runs and he told him the size of the nozzle he was using, ok?
        ..and you fully trust this "guy" because??

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        How is this vouching? I can send someone pics of nozzles too claiming a size that isn't proof of anything. Hell, I don't even have nitrous and I could do it. Freakishly fast? LOL, ok.
        They raced each other...wasn't just pics


        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        We are at where we are at with the platform and it simply isn't a ZR-1 killer or a supra for that matter. It is a nice little motor but nothing like an S54 or S65 when it comes to top performance. As I said, you overestimate it. A guy squeezing a ton of nitrous in his car, breaking it, and then quietly getting rid of it doesn't prove much of anything, some service advisor.
        Given there's no proof on anything N54 engine related specifically, you're purely speculating and I choose to disagree UNTIL there's proof of "N54 engine" HP limits...you're talking everything from someone's ethics to auto-tranny issues...

        we can go forever like this it seems and I'm just choosing to wait to see factual evidence of N54 engine limits and you're choosing to speculate...i say, great, to each his own...speculation isn't necessarily a wrong thing to do...just sometimes leads to premature false conclusions...
      1. fundahl's Avatar
        fundahl -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno Click here to enlarge
        Given there's no proof on anything N54 engine related specifically, you're purely speculating and I choose to disagree UNTIL there's proof of "N54 engine" HP limits...you're talking everything from someone's ethics to auto-tranny issues...

        we can go forever like this it seems and I'm just choosing to wait to see factual evidence of N54 engine limits and you're choosing to speculate...i say, great, to each his own...speculation isn't necessarily a wrong thing to do...just sometimes leads to premature false conclusions...
        Exactly, using that thinking then the latest gen M3 could never be up there with the ZR-1 either.......
      1. M3_WC's Avatar
        M3_WC -
        I don't believe anything Hotrod types.

        On 12/03/2010 he states this:
        Still have the 08 Sedan 335i which I am transferring mods to.
        As far as the coupe, that car ran perfectly post-nitrous. It was a great running car. Just got rid of it in anticipation of getting an 2010 N54. But when they were all sold out, I waited and watched the N55 tuning scene, but became intrigued with the diesel.
        on 12/14/2010 he states this:
        If you read my build up journal, I made dozens of runs after removing the nitrous (you can see them on video) with flawless transmission operation. That car always ran great, and still runs great.

        He is so full of BS it is hilarious. Doesn't he realize people read different forums. He no longer has the coupe he put nos in, but yet he likes to claim on occasion he still has it and it runs great.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno Click here to enlarge
        .and you fully trust this "guy" because??
        Has never lied to me and you would trust him as well as you know him.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno Click here to enlarge
        They raced each other...wasn't just pics
        Yep, if one car has mods it isn't disclosing it tends to be quite a difference, right?

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno Click here to enlarge
        Given there's no proof on anything N54 engine related specifically, you're purely speculating and I choose to disagree UNTIL there's proof of "N54 engine" HP limits...you're talking everything from someone's ethics to auto-tranny issues...
        What speculation? There currently is a limitation with fueling that is creating issues. Even once this is resolved, people are shooting for 600 whp. That is where the S65 is on stock internals. Warren has nothing to do with any of this.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno Click here to enlarge
        we can go forever like this it seems and I'm just choosing to wait to see factual evidence of N54 engine limits and you're choosing to speculate...i say, great, to each his own...speculation isn't necessarily a wrong thing to do...just sometimes leads to premature false conclusions...
        I'm not speculating on anything, you are. That is why you are saying "wait and see" when I am going by the reality of the situation where we are at. It isn't rocket science, a more efficient motor with higher revs, a better torque curve, and more displacement is simply a better platform. Nothing can change this, it is the way it is.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
        I don't believe anything Hotrod types.

        On 12/03/2010 he states this:


        on 12/14/2010 he states this:



        He is so full of BS it is hilarious. Doesn't he realize people read different forums. He no longer has the coupe he put nos in, but yet he likes to claim on occasion he still has it and it runs great.
        Exactly, he doesn't even have the car and who knows what the real story is as the guy puts so much emphasis on how he potrays himself in his little internet life that he won't tell anyone the truth. That is why he won't admit to using larger jets or downplays the weight he would strip out of his car. He even goes out of his way to avoid showing that he is just a service advisor at Steven Thomas BMW, you can see right here under Warren Matsui: http://www.dock.net/new/webdevelopme.../service.shtml

        Why do you think he always ran at Sacramento anyway? He never set any "record" times at Famoso. The guy perpetuated inflated times for people and then the N54 community even with upgraded turbos can't hit the times and people wonder why. Oh, I know, because his far was a "freak" right? BS, he was allowed to take risks others weren't pushing the car because he was a service advisor. That's all, he planned all along to dump the problems on BMW should they arise like his transmission issues. No surprise he disappeared and so did the car. It served a purpose, think about it.

        I'm not going to delve deeper into this as I have no intention of hurting anyone but when I did bring this up a while back it was deleted on n54tech.
      1. M3_WC's Avatar
        M3_WC -
        Sticky read through this thread, especially post #'s 14 & 15

        http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ight=hotrod182

        This guy is such a BS artist.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
        Sticky read through this thread, especially post #'s 14 & 15

        http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ight=hotrod182

        This guy is such a BS artist.
        Just proves the guy is full $#@!, nice catch. Can't believe he lying like this:

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by hotrod182 Click here to enlarge
        My best friend is an advisor at the local dealership svc dept
        You are a service advisor you liar, way to conveniently leave out you work at the dealership.
      1. sitdown's Avatar
        sitdown -
        Honestly if I worked at a dealer I wouldn’t want you guys to know either or would be getting 100 pm’s/day from kids wanting the “hookup”.

        Posting his employment info for all to see, pretty sad fellas.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by sitdown Click here to enlarge
        Honestly if I worked at a dealer I wouldn’t want you guys to know either or would be getting 100 pm’s/day from kids wanting the “hookup”.

        Posting his employment info for all to see, pretty sad fellas.
        It is public information that is already there as you can tell by the link. This is not some shocking revelation or posting the information, the information already exists. The point is he denies it showing that he is a liar and willing to bend the truth to serve his purpose. Other guys who work at dealers don't seem to have a problem saying so, does not create any "hookup" issues for them. This guying doesn't run the damn place, there is little he can do other than get an employee discount for himself.

        What hookup can he give you? If you blow your motor he can get it through? That isn't even within his jurisdiction, he does basic stuff. What is sad is that he advocates running nitrous on leases and taking them to the strip when he should be held to a higher standard working for a dealership. I wonder how Steven Thomas BMW customers would feel if they knew they were buying abused lease returns or that their service advisors advocate modifying and drag racing cars? The reason he doesn't post it is for that reason, he doesn't want to get in trouble.

        I say if you want to play, you better be able to pay and not be borrowing.
      1. dzenno@PTF's Avatar
        dzenno@PTF -
        At first I wrote that I no longer trust this guy but then I deleted that post...Reason is we were discussing N54 high hp tuning potential and then it went off to discussing hotrod's ethics...he has his reasons for bending the truth around his employment and I don't think its fair to use that against his results...At this point I really don't know what to believe anymore in terms of his results but at the same time I don't want to say they're faked because of his work ethics...

        The only thing I'd like to get out of this discussion is are his 11.33@132.77mph possible with his mods and "some" NOS nozzle size with the N54...forget about ethics, auto-tranny limitations...imagine this is my 6MT with say a stg 4 ceramic clutch that's more than able to take a high NOS dry shot punch...what would it take and do you think its doable with the stock motor?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno Click here to enlarge
        At first I wrote that I no longer trust this guy but then I deleted that post...Reason is we were discussing N54 high hp tuning potential and then it went off to discussing hotrod's ethics...he has his reasons for bending the truth around his employment and I don't think its fair to use that against his results...At this point I really don't know what to believe anymore in terms of his results but at the same time I don't want to say they're faked because of his work ethics...
        This is fine and it is fair, we should get back on the topic. The main thing is using his results as justification for other N54's doesn't make much sense when other N54's are very different in their times, right? We should just leave it be.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno Click here to enlarge
        The only thing I'd like to get out of this discussion is are his 11.33@132.77mph possible with his mods and "some" NOS nozzle size with the N54...forget about ethics, auto-tranny limitations...imagine this is my 6MT with say a stg 4 ceramic clutch that's more than able to take a high NOS dry shot punch...what would it take and do you think its doable with the stock motor?
        I think to get realistic performance like that we should be focusing more on achieving it with boost instead of with nitrous. I believe Unfor is going about it the right way and will likely be able to product results in this range if he hits the 600 whp mark. So are the results possible at a real track? Yes, the N54 just isn't there yet but likely will be shortly.
      1. M3_WC's Avatar
        M3_WC -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno Click here to enlarge
        At first I wrote that I no longer trust this guy but then I deleted that post...Reason is we were discussing N54 high hp tuning potential and then it went off to discussing hotrod's ethics...he has his reasons for bending the truth around his employment and I don't think its fair to use that against his results...At this point I really don't know what to believe anymore in terms of his results but at the same time I don't want to say they're faked because of his work ethics...
        I hear ya. But what about him saying one week he got rid of his coupe. Then a week later he still has it and it runs great. This guy has a tendency to lie too much, I have a hard time believing anything he says.
      1. dzenno@PTF's Avatar
        dzenno@PTF -
        I know what you're saying...i just did a quick calc on dragtimes.com using their calculator and for him to do 11.33@132.77 in his 3900lb car (including driver) the car would need to have ~620hp at the fly, so around 540whp in this case which we did see with the ASR turbos but they were virtually at the limit of the fuel system and I remember Shiv saying that when they dyno tuned it 540whp was really just a dyno glory run and never something you'd be able to run at the track with their setup as it was too risky due to fueling (think meth wasn't used back then)...500-510whp was the most you could squeeze out reliably...it is starting to make me wonder about his 11.33@132.77 slip but I'm not going to say he lied/faked it as there's no solid proof...with a negative DA and maybe a 100hp dryshot, MAYBE, he did pull it off...