• Gintani sets new S85 V10 horsepower record with 774 whp Stage III E63 M6 dyno pull plus Vortech Si and T-Trim supercharger comparison

      Congratulations to Gintani who increased their own S85 V10 horsepower record from 710 horsepower at the wheels to 774 horsepower at the wheels. This was done with a Vortech T-Trim supercharger and boost around 10 psi along with 100% methanol injection plus MS109 fuel. It is also interesting to see how the Vortech Ti-Trim supercharger compares to the Vortech Si-Trim on the same S85 V10 engine.

      Most of you have probably forgotten this by now but early on when superchargers were just being developed for the E9X M3 people would claim kits using the self-lubricated Si-trim were superior to competitors kits offering the T-Trim option. The BimmerBoost position was that the T-Trim was the better blower as it can move more air as it is spun faster and also that it has more room to be overspun. Essentially, it is capable of more power.

      The overlay below illustrates this well on the same S85 5.0 liter V10 engine which is capable of maxing either blower. The T-Trim simply flows more air up top:


      These are both good bowers and each has their own advantages. Some people like that a blower is self-lubricated and others prefer that they change the oil in the blower frequently. When it comes to performance the best blower is the one for the VE (volumetric efficiency) of your motor but in this case the T-Trim will always make more power on the S85 V10 than the Vortech Si.

      Here is the Si Gintani Stage II graph alone:


      Congratulations to Gintani for raising the bar again and catering to customers with multiple options and not a 'one size fits all' approach. There is a rumor with some traction that BimmerBoost will vouch for that Gintani will try to fit something even larger than either of these blowers in the near future.

      This article was originally published in forum thread: Gintani sets new S85 V10 horsepower record with 774 whp Stage III E63 M6 dyno pull plus Vortech Si and T-Trim supercharger comparison started by Sticky View original post
      Comments 14 Comments
      1. fastgti69's Avatar
        fastgti69 -
        Crazy
      1. leveraged sellout's Avatar
        leveraged sellout -
        Dear god. Watch out for this. Bolted to a DCT this would be fearsome on the highway.
      1. lfelunden's Avatar
        lfelunden -
        This needs a DCT !!!!!!
      1. Group.america's Avatar
        Group.america -
        Does this poor engine have aftermarket conrods ?

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      1. Group.america's Avatar
        Group.america -
        Perfect TALK curve BTW, Ace approves

      1. deemo319's Avatar
        deemo319 -
        Damn.
      1. 5soko's Avatar
        5soko -
        BEAST!
      1. BigM62's Avatar
        BigM62 -
        776 rwhp is sick and so is the Ti head unit. I am only getting 617 rwhp on my 4.9L M62.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BigM62 Click here to enlarge
        776 rwhp is sick and so is the Ti head unit. I am only getting 617 rwhp on my 4.9L M62.
        Well the M62 although offering similar displacement in your configuration just doesn't have the S85 top end. The S85 is the best M motor for power IMO.
      1. BigM62's Avatar
        BigM62 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Well the M62 although offering similar displacement in your configuration just doesn't have the S85 top end. The S85 is the best M motor for power IMO.
        It depends on one's definition of power, but I get your drift. I like torque down low if I had to chose one over the other for the street. Now for track time, I will take 8,500 rpm's in a heart beat, or as some say in a New York minute. Furthermore, my 617 rwhp/580 rwtq is on 10 psi. Would I trade for a S85? Ask me if I prefer a blond or redhead, as I am lucky to have either one. A turbo S85? Get me a kleenex.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BigM62 Click here to enlarge
        It depends on one's definition of power, but I get your drift. I like torque down low if I had to chose one over the other for the street. Now for track time, I will take 8,500 rpm's in a heart beat, or as some say in a New York minute. Furthermore, my 617 rwhp/580 rwtq is on 10 psi. Would I trade for a S85? Ask me if I prefer a blond or redhead, as I am lucky to have either one. A turbo S85? Get me a kleenex.
        Turbo 5.8 liter S85. I'll get you a whole box.
      1. BigM62's Avatar
        BigM62 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Turbo 5.8 liter S85. I'll get you a whole box.
        LOL, I will need it! Click here to enlarge
      1. Terminator-N54's Avatar
        Terminator-N54 -
        sweet jesus.
      1. 0-60Motorsports's Avatar
        0-60Motorsports -
        Amazing work once again from Gintani. Well done Guys.