• Fast, faster, and fastest - An FVD tuned Porsche 997.1 Turbo vs a tuned E60 M5 and stock McLaren MP4-12C on the highway

      The highway is really the E60 M5's game. The S85 V10 breathes very well up top and revs past 8k making for a natural autobahn stormer. The E60 M5 in the videos you will see is ECU tuned along with scoops, an underdrive pulley, and a cat delete. The 911 Turbo it races is the 997.1 generation car with a manual transmission. It is tuned as well but its only modification is to the ECU courtesy of a tune from FVD.


      The result of the 997.1 Turbo and the E60 M5 is surprisingly one sided. The 911 Turbo just flat out runs away from it up top. There are multiple runs and the result is the same each time, bus lengths for the Turbo.

      So how about some more stout competition for the Posche? A McLaren MP4-12C certainly qualifies as stout. The McLaren features the latest 616 horsepower ECU map from McLaren along with a sport exhaust system. The result? The MP4-12C puts bus lengths on the Porsche 911.

      All three of these cars are quick on the highway. It is amazing to see such a large spread between them. There is always somebody faster.

      1. E60 M5 (camera car) with ECU, scoops, pulley, removed pre-cats, filters, 245 winter tires vs 997.1TT MT with FVD tune (stock exhaust)


      2. 3 more tries - now 997tt is the camera car


      3. MP4-12C with factory sport exhaust and latest ecu factory update vs. 997TT (with passenger)

      This article was originally published in forum thread: 997.1tt MT vs E60 M5 Tune, Scoops, de-cat, pulley vs MP4-12C with 625 factory ecu update started by XLRation View original post
      Comments 22 Comments
      1. spool twice's Avatar
        spool twice -
        Holy crap, that E60 got walked bad (and so did that SRT-6 crossfire) that was in the far lane. And then that last video, that 911 got walked by the MC as hard as the E60 did by the 911. Insane video!
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by spool twice Click here to enlarge
        hat 911 got walked by the MC as hard as the E60 did by the 911.
        Exactly. E60 owner thinks he is fast and gets smoked. 911 Turbo then thinks he is fast and he gets smoked just as bad.

        Now somebody needs to beat the McLaren...
      1. XLRation's Avatar
        XLRation -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Exactly. E60 owner thinks he is fast and gets smoked. 911 Turbo then thinks he is fast and he gets smoked just as bad.

        Now somebody needs to beat the McLaren...
        i knew i couldn't win! i know that 12C very well as it's my dad's car.
        since this race i installed a catless exhaust and the 82mm plenum incl. TB on the 997.
        i still don't have any chance but i can hold up a bit better now.

        next time i'll take me gopro with me so i can show you the difference.

        cheers,
        Luke
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Gopro would be a very good idea!

        For you to run with your dads car you are going to have to mod those turbos. The 6MT is holding you back a bit against him as well.

        Still, good stuff.

        Do a rematch with the Go Pro! Make sure your dad doesn't get a more aggressive tune Click here to enlarge
      1. singletrack's Avatar
        singletrack -
        MP4-12C is scary fast. It's amazing how it accelerates - hit 145 I think on the straight at Exotics Racing in Vegas and it felt like it was just going to keep on accelerating. Eerily quiet and linear too.
      1. benzy89's Avatar
        benzy89 -
        Hey this looks a like street racing..... On a forum where the administrator doesn't believe in street racing Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
        Hey this looks a like street racing..... On a forum where the administrator doesn't believe in street racing Click here to enlarge
        I don't believe in personally going across the country to street race when I can rent a track to run multiple cars multiple times and provide far more useful data, videos, etc.

        I'm not sitting here telling others what to do with their lives or cars. The owners are big boys and can make their own decisions. You must have missed the countless threads showing all kinds of videos here in all kinds of settings from the track, to the runway, to the street, etc.

        I guess you are struggling with basic reasoning as it pertains to differentiating these ideas as they are not black or white. That's ok. We all learn at a different pace.
      1. leveraged sellout's Avatar
        leveraged sellout -
        12Cs are fast as hell...just unreal.
      1. UsualSuspect's Avatar
        UsualSuspect -
        McLaren is a BEAST!!! Supercar status! DAMN...DAMN...DAMN!
        A good friend of mine works for KPAX racing...making these videos:


      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Some McLaren 1/4 mile results from @AWD75 are coming
      1. singletrack's Avatar
        singletrack -
        12C GT sounds awesome. I like the looks better also. 12C is a little too soft looking for me. Solid design for sure, but nothing blows me away about it. I like the extra details on the GT.

        First thing I would want to do personally to the McLaren is make it LOUD - more for feedback than for hey-look-at-me.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by singletrack Click here to enlarge
        12C is a little too soft looking for me. Solid design for sure, but nothing blows me away about it. I like the extra details on the GT.
        You sure?

        Click here to enlarge
      1. singletrack's Avatar
        singletrack -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Yah that looks better - trending in the right direction ; )

        ...also consider that I'm comparing to other super cars...not say, my m3.

        Now the P1 : O

        ...that I love.
      1. AWD75's Avatar
        AWD75 -
        Good videos! I wonder how p-car would do with exhaust/e85 & a little weight reduction with him taking the hit? It should be close! I've ran with a 690whp 997 (m6) turbo at tx2k, but he got me. It was a pretty good race tho (will upload the vid).

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Some McLaren 1/4 mile results from @AWD75 are coming
        We ran 10.6@135 with ton of wheel spin & DA sucked! I think its possible to go 10.3 with good conditions and no tire spin.

        PS. I have some plans for the mc, hopefully it will be the first 9sec MP4-12c after this summer Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by AWD75 Click here to enlarge
        PS. I have some plans for the mc, hopefully it will be the first 9sec MP4-12c after this summer
        Get drag radials, a tune from renntech, race gas, full exhaust from Fabspeed, and send me the first 9 second slip.
      1. AWD75's Avatar
        AWD75 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Get drag radials, a tune from renntech, race gas, full exhaust from Fabspeed, and send me the first 9 second slip.
        Thats the plan!
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by AWD75 Click here to enlarge
        Thats the plan!
        Then run me.
      1. AWD75's Avatar
        AWD75 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Then run me.
        Have you run your car at the track with the new setup?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by AWD75 Click here to enlarge
        Have you run your car at the track with the new setup?
        Strip no but some video comparisons with a tuned MP4-12C would be video gold.
      1. AWD75's Avatar
        AWD75 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Strip no but some video comparisons with a tuned MP4-12C would be video gold.
        Yup.