• Is it time for a new Ford F150 Lightning? 2015 3rd gen F150 Lightning rendered

      The closest thing to a performance truck on the market from Ford today is the F150 Tremor. The Tremor is essentially a regular cab F150 with the 3.5 liter V6 twin turbo Ecoboost motor under the hood. A Lightning it is not and Ford has not produced a proper sport truck since the 2nd gen 5.4 liter supercharged V8 SVT Lightning ended production in 2004.

      Ford since then has teased a third generation Lightning concept but nothing came of it. With the F150 going to an aluminum frame for the 2015 model year now is the perfect time to bring the Lightning back. The new F150 is expected to drop an astounding 700 pounds. If that does not sound like a perfect chassis for a sport truck what exactly is?

      The engine that would go under the hood already exists in the Ford Mustang Shelby GT500. The 5.8 liter supercharged V8 has 662 horsepower and 631 lb-ft of torque. That is more than enough to move a much leaner F150.

      There really is no sport truck on the market with Chevrolet not producing a Silverado SS, Ford not producing the Lightning, and Dodge likely never repeating the Ram SRT10 experiment especially with the Viper not selling.

      The market is wide open and the chassis, drivetrain, and transmissions to support such a vehicle Ford already has. Come on, put it all together Ford. Blow everyone out of the water just like the SVT Lightning did back in 1999. There's nobody to be scared of.

      This article was originally published in forum thread: Is it time for a new Ford F150 Lightning? 2015 3rd gen F150 Lightning rendered started by Sticky View original post
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      1. R.G.'s Avatar
        R.G. -
        Yes yes yes
        Want to see it in person before I judge the exterior but I will be at the Ford dealership if/when this hits the lots.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        They haven't announced anything of the sort but if it looks like that with the aluminum chassis and the GT500 powertrain... um, I'll take one.
      1. folgrz's Avatar
        folgrz -
        Oh $#@! yes!!

        Tremor didn't do that well, but damn I can see this thing being awesome!
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Yeah the Tremor was not quite as awesome as I'd hoped.

        This though... this would be the tits.
      1. mjmarovi's Avatar
        mjmarovi -
        The write up sounds good...then there's the picture...that is just plane awful looking. They somehow managed to make a sport truck look worse than their already new horrendous body style looks.

        I literally almost threw up...a great sport truck is just a RWD Chevy Silverado regular cab with a new front grill, lowered, wheels and tires, 5.3L V8 stock motor, and a blower...done! For less than anyone would charge for a special or limited edition sport truck... sorry just not a fan with the new Ford body styles whatsoever.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        I think the rendering looks badass.

        The SVT Lightning and Viper SRT10 handled and braked pretty well believe it or not.

        The Silverado already has the LT1 under the hood. A Silverado SS like this... is what I would want:

      1. mjmarovi's Avatar
        mjmarovi -
        Take away the chrome air ducts in the front bumper and that's a pretty sweet truck, seen better, but nice truck.

        Yes, I know all about the lightning. No offense, but if you think the truck had good brakes you haven't spent much time with them. They were pretty notorious for awful brakes that faded like a SOB. Good luck stopping from 80+ in a timely manner.

        A friend is building one his grandpa left him right now, already has built motor, nitrous, bunch of other $#@!. Another friend had one that he sold a few years ago, built motor as well, pulley, tune, bunch of other $#@! as well. Was a cool truck besides the fact it spit spark plugs. I guess that was partially the shops fault though, the threading on those motors is only like 2-3 threads, so usually during a proper rebuild they re-thread for like 5 threads, and apparently he didn't want to spend the money or something, I dunno, but anyway typical Ford motor bull$#@!. You know that motor was 2V right? POS, everyone that gets serious with a lightning does a COMPLETE rebuild, 4V head upgrade, larger supercharger...I mean might as well just swap in an good ole LS motor and call it a day...oh wait...the truly serious Ford Chassis owners already do that....haha!
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mjmarovi Click here to enlarge
        Take away the chrome air ducts in the front bumper and that's a pretty sweet truck, seen better, but nice truck.
        What in the world is better?

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mjmarovi Click here to enlarge
        Yes, I know all about the lightning. No offense, but if you think the truck had good brakes you haven't spent much time with them. They were pretty notorious for awful brakes that faded like a SOB. Good luck stopping from 80+ in a timely manner.
        It's still a truck... but it had improved suspension and brakes from the standard F150.

        As far as my experience with them, I'd say it is pretty extensive from behind the wheel, racing them, etc., considering I would run my neighbors all the time.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mjmarovi Click here to enlarge
        I dunno, but anyway typical Ford motor bull$#@!. You know that motor was 2V right? POS, everyone that gets serious with a lightning does a COMPLETE rebuild, 4V head upgrade, larger supercharger...I mean might as well just swap in an good ole LS motor and call it a day...oh wait...the truly serious Ford Chassis owners already do that....haha!
        No offense man but I could write you a nice paper on the Ford modular V8.

        First of all, it's a pretty good motor considering that all the Ford GT is that same block but made out of aluminum with the Cobra R 4 valve heads. You can put them same heads on the Lightning if you really want to like Ford did.

        You can take off the blower and strap on a turbo or just run 11's with bolt ons. Upgrade the rods and throw on a Kenne Bell. It's a badass motor and truck why in the world would anyone swap an LS that makes no sense.

        I feel like I have already explained all of this to you before.
      1. mjmarovi's Avatar
        mjmarovi -
        lol, sure there's plenty you can do to it. That makes it a fun project truck for many, but the Ford GT motor is vastly upgraded, as you mentioned. It's not cheap to do that kind of upgrade to that motor. A full rebuild with 4V heads on that motor done right that is....is like $15k or something. Upgraded brakes from the regular F-150 doesn't mean it has good brakes. I'm just saying the truck had its fair share of woes, it's nothing to be putting up on a pedestal IMO. Cool truck, fun project vehicle, but I wouldn't be looking for one myself, that's all I'm saying.

        Why would anyone swap an LS? You can buy an LS motor and do the swap cheaper than you can do a full rebuild...and it's more reliable...power ceilings is well..depends on what you do with the build and which LS motor of course.

        Ok, sure waste your time doing a write up on a single Ford motor. They've had their successes sure, but lets not start talking as if their history of motors is the best available....GM has always made the best motors in america IMO, and I'd see it being pretty hard for someone to argue that point.

        You're right though, even though the motor in stock form isn't anything to write home about, it's sheer potential makes it undeserving of being called a POS, I'm ok with taking that statement back, but I think my point is made.

        This rendered lightning looks awful but would probably have a great drivetrain and awesome straight line performance. The older lightning looked great, but the drivetrain needed a lot of aftermarket attention to be anything.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        We're talking the heads, right? You said 2V. It isn't even a huge deal you can make a bunch of power with the 2V heads but if it bothers you 4V heads bolt on right as the Cobra R uses the same 5.4 block.

        There's no reason to swap an LS into a lightning. The Lightning's appeal is big bolt on power. Nobody swapped an LS into a Cobra, what for? The LS needs a ton of work to match a bolt on lightning as in forced induction as in more money.

        What you're saying doesn't make any sense.
      1. mjmarovi's Avatar
        mjmarovi -
        Well actually...tons of people have swapped LS1, LS7, and LSX series into their cobra's, 03-04 Cobra's swaps were/are fairly common.

        What do you mean bolt-on power? 400whp? Where are you finding these so impressive lightnings?



        Built motor...511 hp

      1. richpike's Avatar
        richpike -
        There was an excellent April fools trick today by 4wheeler magazine:

        http://www.fourwheeler.com/news/1404...o-coming-soon/

        2016 Ford Bronco SVT

        This would have been so awesome, especially with the GT500 engine... But alas.

        -Rich

        Attachment 37156
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        ^ Yeah I saw that. A shame they aren't make it.

        Honestly, I can't think of a reason why they shouldn't. That thing is badass.
      1. richpike's Avatar
        richpike -
        Totally agree. The market is there, but instead they continue to make the Flex? I love Ford, but I'm still lost on that one.

        -Rich
      1. chrisisnapping's Avatar
        chrisisnapping -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mjmarovi Click here to enlarge
        Well actually...tons of people have swapped LS1, LS7, and LSX series into their cobra's, 03-04 Cobra's swaps were/are fairly common.
        Are you serious? never heard of anyone putting an LS in a terminator. Sure it was common for a foxbody, but I honestly don't see the point of getting a terminator and putting an LS engine in it. Get a regular GT, I mean if you're swapping the engine you're probably going to swap the IRS out for drag racing anyways....

        I should note I'm not trying to call bs on you, I'm really interested to see some of these builds.
      1. chrisisnapping's Avatar
        chrisisnapping -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by richpike Click here to enlarge
        Totally agree. The market is there, but instead they continue to make the Flex? I love Ford, but I'm still lost on that one.

        -Rich
        My dad had one for a couple years. He absolutely loved it, until the new challenger came out then so long flex.

        I still ill don't get it, it's like a Mini Cooper took a bunch of steroids.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by chrisisnapping Click here to enlarge
        Are you serious? never heard of anyone putting an LS in a terminator. Sure it was common for a foxbody, but I honestly don't see the point of getting a terminator and putting an LS engine in it. Get a regular GT, I mean if you're swapping the engine you're probably going to swap the IRS out for drag racing anyways....

        I should note I'm not trying to call bs on you, I'm really interested to see some of these builds.
        What he's saying makes no sense.