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    • Quickest and fastest M157 on stock turbochargers? - PP-Performance Stage II tuned C218 CLS63 AMG goes 10.6 @ 135

      Great results here from a PP-Performance (Jimmy Pelka) tuned Mercedes-Benz C218 CLS63 AMG. The car is on stock turbochargers (with catless downpipes) making the elapsed time and trap speed very impressive. A 10.678 @ 135.5 miles per hour (218.07 kph) is the quickest and fastest recorded timeslip for a stock turbo M157 twin turbo V8 Mercedes. This run took place at the Yas Marina dragsrip which is located in Abu Dhabi in the United Arab Emirates.

      Now, this car no doubt runs very strong but the issue with overseas timeslips is that the their timing equipment often differs from NHRA approved equipment in the United States. That said, Yas Marina is an NHRA certified dragstrip. BenzBoost is not able to explain why this trap speed is so much higher than other recorded runs in the United States but the Yas Marina strip seems to be using different timing equipment.

      The reason the trap speed is believed to be on the high side here is due to being put in context against the M157 trap speed record help by Renntech at 137 miles per hour with upgraded turbos. Obviously the stock turbos will not make as much power or torque as the upgraded units and there should be a much larger difference than two miles per hour. The only other explanation would be the car not running stock turbos.

      Regardless, this is a very quick and fast run and PP-Performance is clearly tuning these motors well. Congratulations to all involved.


      This article was originally published in forum thread: PP-Performance CLS63 runs 10.6 on stock turbos started by SLS AMG View original post
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      1. M177's Avatar
        M177 -
        stage II + downpipe + intercooler upgrade + mixed gas + skinny front + full slick rear

        10.6 @135 ! Great work




      1. Jacob502's Avatar
        Jacob502 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Now, this car no doubt runs very strong but the issue with overseas timeslips is that the their timing equipment often differs from NHRA approved equipment in the United States. That said, Yas Marina is an NHRA certified dragstrip. BenzBoost is not able to explain why this trap speed is so much higher than other recorded runs in the United States but the Yas Marina strip seems to be using different timing equipment.
        Joseph,
        Nice Article. Although you dont need to throw false comments. I dont know what other overseas NHRA approved dragstrips that uses diffrent equipment that yoiu know of, but Yas Drag strip is an NHRA approved track with approved timing equipment . the equipment isnt any diffrent than the ones used in the United state with NHRA approved tracks.

        This is the same track that @Sirex63 made his 10.5 ET @133, which was intact with what a Weistec stage 3 car should elpase.

        Additionally, I have seen cars usually trap less in YAS than trap speeds in the USA. I have seen Header/Tune C63's trapping speds @118 mph. You can even ask Jeremy from OE tuning about this.




        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        The reason the trap speed is believed to be on the high side here is due to being put in context against the M157 trap speed record help by Renntech at 137 miles per hour with upgraded turbos.
        I know this car very well and its running on STOCK turbos. Nit taking anything away from Renntech, but PP-P's car is faster and quicker. and PBIR is a fast track and most importantly faster than YASClick here to enlarge
      1. Jacob502's Avatar
        Jacob502 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M177 Click here to enlarge
        + intercooler upgrade + mixed gas + 10.6 @135 ! Great work


        Intercooler is Stock

        on Pump gas
      1. M177's Avatar
        M177 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jacob502 Click here to enlarge
        Intercooler is Stock

        on Pump gas
        I'm not really sure about the intercooler i just heard that its upgraded

        but I'm 1000% sure its mixed GAS i personally talked to salah alamoodi
      1. Jacob502's Avatar
        Jacob502 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M177 Click here to enlarge
        I'm not really sure about the intercooler i just heard that its upgraded

        but I'm 1000% sure its mixed GAS i personally talked to salah alamoodi
        Who are you exactley?

        Salah is with me on the phone right now.
      1. Jacob502's Avatar
        Jacob502 -
        Fuel is was indeed mixed but it was a pump tune. The intercooler was stock
      1. Linracing's Avatar
        Linracing -
        wow that is insane!
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jacob502 Click here to enlarge
        Joseph,
        Nice Article. Although you dont need to throw false comments. I dont know what other overseas NHRA approved dragstrips that uses diffrent equipment that yoiu know of, but Yas Drag strip is an NHRA approved track with approved timing equipment . the equipment isnt any diffrent than the ones used in the United state with NHRA approved tracks.

        This is the same track that @Sirex63 made his 10.5 ET @133, which was intact with what a Weistec stage 3 car should elpase.

        Additionally, I have seen cars usually trap less in YAS than trap speeds in the USA. I have seen Header/Tune C63's trapping speds @118 mph. You can even ask Jeremy from OE tuning about this.


        I know this car very well and its running on STOCK turbos. Nit taking anything away from Renntech, but PP-P's car is faster and quicker. and PBIR is a fast track and most importantly faster than YASClick here to enlarge
        The Renntech car isn't running stock turbos I'm not sure where you got that from.

        Yes, the strip is NHRA certified as stated in the article. However, as the slip printouts show they are using some kind of different timing/printout system than what we are used to.

        The stock turbo trap speeds in the United States are all uniformly lower than this. I haven't seen anything around ~135 so to me this seems a bit high.
      1. Jacob502's Avatar
        Jacob502 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        The Renntech car isn't running stock turbos I'm not sure where you got that from.
        Bro, I was talkin about the PPP car. You questioned that it had upgraded turbos. I just replied and said that I know this car very well and that it DOESNT have upgraded turbos and only runing on stock turbos

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Yes, the strip is NHRA certified as stated in the article. However, as the slip printouts show they are using some kind of different timing/printout system than what we are used to.
        They are the same standards. Yas Marina uses the Metric system, Thats all. Equipment is the same. NHRA approved tracks need to uses specific equipments to be classified as NHRA "approved".
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jacob502 Click here to enlarge
        Bro, I was talkin about the PPP car. You questioned that it had upgraded turbos. I just replied and said that I know this car very well and that it DOESNT have upgraded turbos and only runing on stock turbos
        I don't doubt you. I simply provided an alternate explanation.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jacob502 Click here to enlarge
        They are the same standards. Yas Marina uses the Metric system, Thats all. Equipment is the same. NHRA approved tracks need to uses specific equipments to be classified as NHRA "approved".
        You are right but I'm still wondering on the timing system and I'm still struggling to explain a 5 mile per hour trap speed variance between this car on stock turbos and stock turbo cars in the USA. Especially considering there are many more stock turbo tuned runs here. Notice not a single tuner, of out let's say the four major ones, has approached this trap speed.

        Also notice this speed is close to upgraded turbocharger numbers.

        Please do not take offense as I know Pelka can tune but there seems to be a variance here that I can only attribute to the location and equipment.
      1. M177's Avatar
        M177 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        but I'm still wondering on the timing system
        don't be wonder sticky cuz when renntech run the car they run it with the full weight.

        DUUDE after the all bla bla bla in the white PPP cls with upgraded turbo dont get shocked ITS PP-PERFORMANCE STYLE Click here to enlargeClick here to enlarge

        i think you rmember it the one who shifted to 5 before the end line Click here to enlarge
      1. Jacob502's Avatar
        Jacob502 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge



        You are right but I'm still wondering on the timing system and I'm still struggling to explain a 5 mile per hour trap speed variance between this car on stock turbos and stock turbo cars in the USA. Especially considering there are many more stock turbo tuned runs here. Notice not a single tuner, of out let's say the four major ones, has approached this trap speed. .
        Not a single run in the USA was made by a PP-Performance tuned car. has it ever occured to you that PP-P actually offer more powerful tunes.?
        In fact, I have seen a CLS63 with upgraded turbos from one of your "Major four" tuners (dont try i'm not going to say who) lose to a PPP CLS63 runing with stock turbos.






        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge

        Please do not take offense as I know Pelka can tune but there seems to be a variance here that I can only attribute to the location and equipment.
        Joseph, I am in no way offended my friend. This is only a car discussion. As I explained earlier. The equpiment that is used in YAS is NHRA approved equipment. You can even verify it with YAS

        Btw, Joe, did you pay attention to 60ft times?Click here to enlarge
      1. Jacob502's Avatar
        Jacob502 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M177 Click here to enlarge
        don't be wonder sticky cuz when renntech run the car they run it with the full weight.

        DUUDE after the all bla bla bla in the white PPP cls with upgraded turbo dont get shocked ITS PP-PERFORMANCE STYLE Click here to enlargeClick here to enlarge

        i think you rmember it the one who shifted to 5 before the end line Click here to enlarge
        Again who are you please?

        you carry alot of BS with your posts. I have not seen you run 10seconds , so I'm not really sure what your beef is about.

        Please dont spread BS around about the car discussed above, It did not have an intercooler and it was running on FULL WEIGHT. Only weight reduction came from the wheels/Tires. Renntech also made thier run with diffrent Tires/Wheel combination
      1. 63Master's Avatar
        63Master -
        Not hard to believe that PP-Performance are the best. I love thier software remapping. I tuned three different cars with them and they preformed well above my expectations.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M177 Click here to enlarge
        don't be wonder sticky cuz when renntech run the car they run it with the full weight.

        DUUDE after the all bla bla bla in the white PPP cls with upgraded turbo dont get shocked ITS PP-PERFORMANCE STYLE Click here to enlargeClick here to enlarge

        i think you rmember it the one who shifted to 5 before the end line Click here to enlarge
        I have no idea what you're saying.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jacob502 Click here to enlarge
        Not a single run in the USA was made by a PP-Performance tuned car. has it ever occured to you that PP-P actually offer more powerful tunes.?
        In fact, I have seen a CLS63 with upgraded turbos from one of your "Major four" tuners (dont try i'm not going to say who) lose to a PPP CLS63 runing with stock turbos.
        I understand that which means we have several tuners all getting the stock turbochargers to the same level. What exactly is PP-P doing differently to account for 5 miles per hour of traps speed? One tuner gets a much higher number on the same hardware than several other tuners? It doesn't make sense right?

        Everyone is going to get the stock turbos to about the same level. There will not be a 5 mile per hour trap speed variance as it is impossible.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jacob502 Click here to enlarge
        Joseph, I am in no way offended my friend. This is only a car discussion. As I explained earlier. The equpiment that is used in YAS is NHRA approved equipment. You can even verify it with YAS

        Btw, Joe, did you pay attention to 60ft times?
        I've paid attention to all of it. It's no doubt quick and fast.
      1. M177's Avatar
        M177 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jacob502 Click here to enlarge
        Again who are you please?

        you carry alot of BS with your posts. I have not seen you run 10seconds , so I'm not really sure what your beef is about.

        Please dont spread BS around about the car discussed above, It did not have an intercooler and it was running on FULL WEIGHT. Only weight reduction came from the wheels/Tires. Renntech also made thier run with diffrent Tires/Wheel combination
        I'm talking about something else
        About the pp-performance white cla63 with upgraded turbo the one who get 10.88 ET that shifted to fifth gear before it pass the end line 1/4 mile .. I don't want to go on deep details but the fastest cls63 for renntch didn't changed to fifth gear before the end of 1/4 mile what does this mean ?


        i think its clear dear red arrow no need to go more deep Click here to enlarge


        And here is my approve link





        I'm talking about how they are professional and they have there own style to get the fastest 1/4 mile


        With all respect,
        M177'z
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M177 Click here to enlarge
        I'm talking about something else
        About the pp-performance white cla63 with upgraded turbo the one who get 10.88 ET that shifted to fifth gear before it pass the end line 1/4 mile .. I don't want to go on deep details but the fastest cls63 for renntch didn't changed to fifth gear before the end of 1/4 mile what does this mean ?


        i think its clear dear red arrow no need to go more deep Click here to enlarge


        And here is my approve link


        http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q3ibAp6Nokg


        I'm talking about how they are professional and they have there own style to get the fastest 1/4 mile


        With all respect,
        M177'z
        This car has upgraded turbos and went 132 miles per hour?
      1. M177's Avatar
        M177 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        This car has upgraded turbos and went 132 miles per hour?
        Yes

        Upgraded turbo
        upgrade transmission
        intercooler
        downpipe / headers
        bmc filters

        its run in yas abudhabi 10.88 ET @ 132
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M177 Click here to enlarge
        Yes

        Upgraded turbo
        upgrade transmission
        intercooler
        downpipe / headers
        bmc filters

        its run in yas abudhabi 10.88 ET @ 132
        Then how is a stock turbo car exceeding it?

        This is the problem...