• Fftec Motorsports N54 twin scroll top mount turbo manifold kit, $4950 - Too pricey?

      The N54 inline-6 turbo upgrade era is really now blossoming from stock housing options to a variety of aftermarket manifold and turbo solutions. Fftech originally worked on a bottom mount turbo manifold but it seems they have abandoned that setup in favor of a top mount turbo manifold now. This 'kit' includes everything you need to install an aftermarket turbo setup at $4950 but does not include an upgraded turbo making for a pricey manifold option.

      Fftec deserves whatever the market is willing to pay and there are not exactly a plethora of top mount off the shelf manifold options in the N54 world at this time. Will it sell? Absolutely.

      Why a top mount? Speculation by BimmerBoost members is that the bottom mount manifold required too much modification to the frame of the vehicle to fit. As a reminder, BimmerBoost vendors do have working bottom mount solutions for those not interested in a top mount for whatever reason (sleeper, heat in the engine bay, etc.).

      Picture and pricing info below.




      Included in this Kit:

      FFTEC Twin Scroll Top Mount Exhaust Manifold
      FFTEC Top Mount Downpipe
      FFTEC Lower Intercooler Pipe
      FFTEC CNC Coolant Pipe
      FFTEC Oil Feed and Drain Lines
      FFTEC Swirl Pot
      FFTEC Boost Control Solenoid
      FFTEC Valve Cover Heat Shield
      This article was originally published in forum thread: FFTEC Top mount twin scroll kit started by bmw335iguy View original post
      Comments 265 Comments
      1. bigdnno98's Avatar
        bigdnno98 -
        This turbo?

        CT4B6765 Triplex Ceramic .58/.70/.84/1.00/1.15/1.32/1.52 3"V-Band T4 divided turbine housing
      1. lamia2super's Avatar
        lamia2super -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
        This turbo?

        CT4B6765 Triplex Ceramic .58/.70/.84/1.00/1.15/1.32/1.52 3"V-Band T4 divided turbine housing
        yup, but its the 6767
      1. bigdnno98's Avatar
        bigdnno98 -
        Badass! That is going to be an AWESOME setup! congrats.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lamia2super Click here to enlarge
        yup, but its the 6767
      1. CannonFodder's Avatar
        CannonFodder -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lamia2super Click here to enlarge
        comp 67mm
        Nice, A mans turbo. I think the key to big power on pump gas is going to be in the 67-71 range.

        What made you go with the comp over the precision 6766 or a s366, or even a gt4088r. They all seem pretty comparable.
      1. lamia2super's Avatar
        lamia2super -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
        Badass! That is going to be an AWESOME setup! congrats.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by CannonFodder Click here to enlarge
        Nice, A mans turbo. I think the key to big power on pump gas is going to be in the 67-71 range.

        What made you go with the comp over the precision 6766 or a s366, or even a gt4088r. They all seem pretty comparable.
        thanks and because from my experience comp is one of the quickest spooling turbos you can buy.
      1. Flinchy's Avatar
        Flinchy -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
        Precision 5858 or 5862; It's a shame you couldn't use a TiAL Alpha since their Oil Lubricated/Water Cooled but Forged Performance HTA's aren't a bad alternative since they both start out as a Garrett Turbo
        What's wrong with being Oil+Water?
      1. benzy89's Avatar
        benzy89 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Flinchy Click here to enlarge
        What's wrong with being Oil+Water?
        Nothing, just involves a lot more work to setup since the OEM setup is oil lubricated/cooled.
      1. Flinchy's Avatar
        Flinchy -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
        Nothing, just involves a lot more work to setup since the OEM setup is oil lubricated/cooled.
        oh really? i thought it had water cooling for some reason, i could've sworn two lines came from the water!


        that definitely makes sense though... what has to be done to get the water cooling to happen?

        also, would it overwhelm the stock water cooling system easily? when most people doing this would already have a ridiculously beefed up oil cooler setup?
      1. bmw335iguy's Avatar
        bmw335iguy -
        Stock turbos are both water and oil cooled.
      1. benzy89's Avatar
        benzy89 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Flinchy Click here to enlarge
        oh really? i thought it had water cooling for some reason, i could've sworn two lines came from the water!
        I take that back, N54 OEM Turbo setup is Water/Oil; so the TiAL Alphas would work. Since the Water is responsible for both cooling the Engine & Turbos, if you were heavily tracking the car a radiator upgrade would prob be smart.

        Otherwise, a strict oil setup is sufficient for a street car and just less complex to setup.
      1. Eleventeen's Avatar
        Eleventeen -
        The nice thing about a water cooled turbo on these cars is that the DME keeps the water pump running after the car is shut off to cool the turbo. It's like having a turbo timer.
      1. jlcf22's Avatar
        jlcf22 -
        so 4950.00 for all the hardware plus 1600.00 for 5858 turbo and 350.00 for the wastegate =6.900.00 for a turbo kit thats not bad I would like to see it between 5k-6k i think they would sell a lot of kits
      1. fastgti69's Avatar
        fastgti69 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by jlcf22 Click here to enlarge
        so 4950.00 for all the hardware plus 1600.00 for 5858 turbo and 350.00 for the wastegate =6.900.00 for a turbo kit thats not bad I would like to see it between 5k-6k i think they would sell a lot of kits
        You can still even get that size turbo as a journal bearing and it wont be that much difference in lag. The smaller you go it will be better with lag, but less power of course. You can get a JB turbo for like 700$ brand new from BW.
      1. lamia2super's Avatar
        lamia2super -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by jlcf22 Click here to enlarge
        so 4950.00 for all the hardware plus 1600.00 for 5858 turbo and 350.00 for the wastegate =6.900.00 for a turbo kit thats not bad I would like to see it between 5k-6k i think they would sell a lot of kits
        2 wastegates + heat shields + shipping +labor = $$$$$
      1. jlcf22's Avatar
        jlcf22 -
        FFTEC quoted me 1500.00 for the install
      1. bigdnno98's Avatar
        bigdnno98 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by jlcf22 Click here to enlarge
        FFTEC quoted me 1500.00 for the install
        that's not bad. FFTEC is a very solid shop too. i'd jump on that.
      1. nafoo's Avatar
        nafoo -
        If I could get Vargas Stage 3 installed for $1,500, I would most likely keep my car Click here to enlarge
      1. fastgti69's Avatar
        fastgti69 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by nafoo Click here to enlarge
        If I could get Vargas Stage 3 installed for $1,500, I would most likely keep my car Click here to enlarge
        Do it!
      1. lamia2super's Avatar
        lamia2super -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by nafoo Click here to enlarge
        If I could get Vargas Stage 3 installed for $1,500, I would most likely keep my car Click here to enlarge
        I would think ~2500 would be book time on any turbo kit for our car. It's all about how much discount they are willing to give
      1. nafoo's Avatar
        nafoo -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lamia2super Click here to enlarge
        I would think ~2500 would be book time on any turbo kit for our car. It's all about how much discount they are willing to give
        Yea, 2500 for Stage 3, 1200 - 1500 for Stage 2.