• 1000+ horsepower Protomotive 996 Turbo beating up on an Underground Racing 1250+ hp Twin Turbo Gallardo Spyder in Mexico, legit?

      Nice to see a daytime run video from "Mexico" for once. In one corner is a 996 Turbo tuned by well known Porsche tuner Protomotive with a claimed 1000+ horsepower. In the other is an LP-560 Spyder with a Twin Turbo setup from famed tuned Underground Racing. Keep in mind with either of these cars the horsepower can be quite up there and there are no specific numbers shown likely for the reason of the owners not wanting the competition to know.


      Yes, this video shows the Porsche coming out on top. Even when the Gallardo gets the jump the Turbo reels it in. With the final race where the UGR Gallardo gets a massive a different angle would have been quite useful but every single run establishes the Porsche as the faster car.

      Some users on the forums are calling BS but they need to keep in mind turbo Gallardos come in all kinds of flavors ranging from 600 wheel to 1800 wheel horsepower depending on what one spends. With a 996 Turbo it is no different it simply depends on how far one modded their car. What is clear is that both can be potent.

      Video below. Both cars said to be in kill mode which means at their best.

      This article was originally published in forum thread: Underground Lambo 1250whp vs BHT Protomotive Porsche 996TT 1000+hp started by Spool View original post
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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Flinchy Click here to enlarge
        yeah i'm still not getting how it's almost an 11.0 @ 151, it's a solid 2s+ slower than the trap would usually indicate?
        ET and trap are two different things. 151 means it has much more capability but there is a significant difference between the two and this is basically common knowledge...
      1. Flinchy's Avatar
        Flinchy -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        ET and trap are two different things. 151 means it has much more capability but there is a significant difference between the two and this is basically common knowledge...
        yeah i understand that traps are sometimes way higher than the ET would suggest... i'm just wondering 'why'?

        it's not babied heaps off the line, no traction issues, no missed shifts...?
      1. benzy89's Avatar
        benzy89 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Flinchy Click here to enlarge
        yeah i'm still not getting how it's almost an 11.0 @ 151, it's a solid 2s+ slower than the trap would usually indicate? again, even without a proper launch or anything....?
        For comparison sack, a WR chasing stock turbo N54 is hitting high 10 seconds (like this car), but at a mid-120 MPH trap. And that's under optimal conditions & giving full effort from the launch.

        MEANWHILE, this car made a near 11 second pass but at at 151 MPH, meaning this car is probably only hitting its "stride" once it's in 3rd gear. Can't forget that this car wasn't built for 1/4 mile times (probably tons of lag in 1st, 2nd & beginning of 3rd), the owner instead focuses on 60-130 times and events like the Texas Mile (where it went 225 MPH) and the Houston 1/2 Mile (188 MPH).
      1. Flinchy's Avatar
        Flinchy -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
        For comparison sack, a WR chasing stock turbo N54 is hitting high 10 seconds (like this car), but at a mid-120 MPH trap. And that's under optimal conditions & giving full effort from the launch.

        MEANWHILE, this car made a near 11 second pass but at at 151 MPH, meaning this car is probably only hitting its "stride" once it's in 3rd gear. Can't forget that this car wasn't built for 1/4 mile times (probably tons of lag in 1st, 2nd & beginning of 3rd), the owner instead focuses on 60-130 times and events like the Texas Mile (where it went 225 MPH) and the Houston 1/2 Mile (188 MPH).
        so what would that mean? extremely long gearing (was my first thought, but with THAT much power/torque, that can't be much of a hindrance), or in-gear boost limits?

        or that the the turbos barely spool in first, drops off boost into second, then it actually has a usable power band in third?
      1. benzy89's Avatar
        benzy89 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Flinchy Click here to enlarge
        or that the the turbos barely spool in first, drops off boost into second, then it actually has a usable power band in third?
        I'm gonna go with this.... Let's look at another mainstream performance indicator: this Porsche has a 4.82 60-130, making it nearly 4 seconds faster than the N54 stock turbo record (which is on boost in every gear the second it leaves the line). And if we go to the N54 extreme (VFF900 twin scroll 6466 / 738 WHP), it managed a 6.28 60-130 with a -2.7 slope (max allowed is -3.0)​.
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        AWD doesnt mean no wheel spin. that car wasnt full boost all the way down the track on purpose, those cars dont really have lag, utra responsive.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Flinchy Click here to enlarge
        yeah i understand that traps are sometimes way higher than the ET would suggest... i'm just wondering 'why'?

        it's not babied heaps off the line, no traction issues, no missed shifts...?
        It is babied off the line. Going for trap to show HP while preserving the driveline is what you see there. ET is really all about the launch.
      1. DFM's Avatar
        DFM -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        It is babied off the line. Going for trap to show HP while preserving the driveline is what you see there. ET is really all about the launch.
        This is what I was getting at when I stated "its obvious of you watch the video."

        That is the opposite of a launch. slow clutch engagement, rolled into throttle.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DFM Click here to enlarge
        This is what I was getting at when I stated "its obvious of you watch the video."

        That is the opposite of a launch. slow clutch engagement, rolled into throttle.
        Agreed.
      1. Blackhorseturbo's Avatar
        Blackhorseturbo -
        I only wanted a 150+ trap here. Tranny is still stock although I have big upgraded axels. Hard launch will break my diff. Not really interested in adding an LSD and new tranny just yet. The car is set up for high speed events and roll racing.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Blackhorseturbo Click here to enlarge
        I only wanted a 150+ trap here. Tranny is still stock although I have big upgraded axels. Hard launch will break my diff. Not really interested in adding an LSD and new tranny just yet. The car is set up for high speed events and roll racing.
        Welcome.

        Perfectly fine to be set up for top end racing.
      1. DFM's Avatar
        DFM -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Blackhorseturbo Click here to enlarge
        I only wanted a 150+ trap here. Tranny is still stock although I have big upgraded axels. Hard launch will break my diff. Not really interested in adding an LSD and new tranny just yet. The car is set up for high speed events and roll racing.
        Completely understandable. This much hp requires significant driveline upgrades to endure hard launches.

        Welcome to the forum.
      1. jhb>bht's Avatar
        jhb>bht -
        BHT said I should come on over. Howdy!
      1. Blackhorseturbo's Avatar
        Blackhorseturbo -
        Nice screen name. Lol
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by jhb>bht Click here to enlarge
        BHT said I should come on over. Howdy!
        whats jhb?