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  • APR Stage 3 GTX Golf R runs an 11.5@116 1/4 mile on street tires

    Very, very impressive results here for an APR Stage 3 Golf R. This car features a fully production APR Stage 3 GTX turbo kit on a full weight MKVI Volkswagen Golf R with street tires. This car would have no problem repeating this performance on the street just as easily as it did on the street. That means from a stoplight it is going to be tough to beat as the 11.5@116 1/4 mile time suggests. That is with 93 octane pump gas by the way.

    The question is what transmission is the Golf R using? As this run was done in Australia the car could either be a DSG or a manual (USA only gets manual). Considering the elapsed time, VWBoost leans toward thinking this is a dual clutch car.

    Regardless, very impressive runs. Check out the video below.




    This article was originally published in forum thread: APR Stage 3 GTX Golf R runs an 11.5@116 1/4 mile on street tires started by Sticky View original post
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    1. chrisisnapping's Avatar
      chrisisnapping -
      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
      I'm amazed there are no piggyback options. You wouldn't need to screw with the ECU or flash.
      Probably has something to do with the bosch ECU VAG runs. I know on the TSI they have a lot of complex3d maps with mostly german tech notes and may be arguebly harder to tune than a BMW (GIAC is basically the only people that can answer that question since they do both). I know the ECU is extremely finicky and even using a MBC/EBC you're limited to what you can do before the ECU just becomes a dick about it.
    1. Sticky's Avatar
      Sticky -
      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by chrisisnapping Click here to enlarge
      Probably has something to do with the bosch ECU VAG runs. I know on the TSI they have a lot of complex3d maps with mostly german tech notes and may be arguebly harder to tune than a BMW (GIAC is basically the only people that can answer that question since they do both). I know the ECU is extremely finicky and even using a MBC/EBC you're limited to what you can do before the ECU just becomes a dick about it.
      I'm sure there is something to that but the BMW ECU is highly complicated as well. I think it works with the N54 due to being a closed loop fueling system. I have no idea what the VW setup is.
    1. chrisisnapping's Avatar
      chrisisnapping -
      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
      I'm sure there is something to that but the BMW ECU is highly complicated as well. I think it works with the N54 due to being a closed loop fueling system. I have no idea what the VW setup is.
      Closed loop, or at least I am fairly certain it is. With a 11.5 target at WOT and the ECU will do whatever it takes to get that a/f.
    1. Sticky's Avatar
      Sticky -
      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by chrisisnapping Click here to enlarge
      Closed loop, or at least I am fairly certain it is. With a 11.5 target at WOT and the ECU will do whatever it takes to get that a/f.
      I think in that case somebody just needs to try to get a piggyback working.
    1. bigdnno98's Avatar
      bigdnno98 -
      @Terry@BMS would make a FORTUNE by making a JBVW (I'm copywriting that name as we speak Terry) for the VW guys. Plenty of modded 2.0s out there begging for something better than mailing ECUs back and forth and paying some rediculous ammount of money for a VAG cable in order to log.
    1. chrisisnapping's Avatar
      chrisisnapping -
      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
      @Terry@BMS would make a FORTUNE by making a JBVW (I'm copywriting that name as we speak Terry) for the VW guys. Plenty of modded 2.0s out there begging for something better than mailing ECUs back and forth and paying some rediculous ammount of money for a VAG cable in order to log.
      just a side note, only a handful of smaller tuners require the mailing back and forth, or if you live out in the sticks somewhere. APR, GIAC, Unitronic, and REVO all have loads of dealers world wide where you can easily get flashed tuned. For instance, I can get to dealers who provide flashing for all 4 of those major tuners within about 30-40 minutes.

      keep in mind that our cable for logging, also lets us do coding, fault clears, resets, etc. very similar to a BT tool. So the prices are fairly in-line.

      Unitronic also has "UniConnect" which is similar to a COBB AP. It's $150 (plus cost of tune) and it'll allow you to log, fault clear, and change tunes. This also makes it easier for custom/e-tuning to get to you.

      Don't get me wrong, I'd love for Terry to get into the VW world, and there is a lot of potential for him here (same with Vargas). Just wanted to clarify some things.
    1. bigdnno98's Avatar
      bigdnno98 -
      ok thanks for that. i looked at the APR dealer finder and closest to me is 3 hours. I'm not exactly in the sticks either, 45 minutes north of Nashville, TN.

      That ultrasonic cable for $150 sounds like a pretty awesome deal.

      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by chrisisnapping Click here to enlarge
      just a side note, only a handful of smaller tuners require the mailing back and forth, or if you live out in the sticks somewhere. APR, GIAC, Unitronic, and REVO all have loads of dealers world wide where you can easily get flashed tuned. For instance, I can get to dealers who provide flashing for all 4 of those major tuners within about 30-40 minutes.

      keep in mind that our cable for logging, also lets us do coding, fault clears, resets, etc. very similar to a BT tool. So the prices are fairly in-line.

      Unitronic also has "UniConnect" which is similar to a COBB AP. It's $150 (plus cost of tune) and it'll allow you to log, fault clear, and change tunes. This also makes it easier for custom/e-tuning to get to you.

      Don't get me wrong, I'd love for Terry to get into the VW world, and there is a lot of potential for him here (same with Vargas). Just wanted to clarify some things.
    1. chrisisnapping's Avatar
      chrisisnapping -
      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
      ok thanks for that. i looked at the APR dealer finder and closest to me is 3 hours. I'm not exactly in the sticks either, 45 minutes north of Nashville, TN.

      That ultrasonic cable for $150 sounds like a pretty awesome deal.
      the upside is you're less than 300 miles from APR's headquarters!
    1. bigdnno98's Avatar
      bigdnno98 -
      Oh that's right. I forgot, my buddy has the GTI shopcar and that's where it came from.

      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by chrisisnapping Click here to enlarge
      the upside is you're less than 300 miles from APR's headquarters!
    1. bigdnno98's Avatar
      bigdnno98 -
      I'm really digging that Bettle R LOL