• 335/N54 fanboys get panties in a twist over a bolt on DCT E92 M3 pulling a JB4 tuned bolt on 335i

      Oh yes, here we go the millionth time, the ever popular 335 versus M3 discussion. A user posted the video below of a bolt on DCT E92 M3 pulling a JB4 tuned 335i in the forums and the N54 fanboys went for the pitchforks and torches. For whatever reason 335 owners in particular seem to really want to attack the E92 M3 perhaps in justification of their own purchase. There is the typical "oh I didn't get an M3 because a tuned 335 is faster" nonsense that N54 fanboys tend to comfort themselves with in the never ending M3 versus 335 debate.


      Even though the 335 in this video may have more power and torque in tuned form which the fanboys love to point out the other side of the coin is that the M3's redline and transmission are a huge advantage. Gearing is an area the M3 simply has an advantage over the 335 in and the transmission makes a big difference as one can see the shift speed in lower gears is really what gives the M3 the gains it sees in the race early on.

      Up top, the tuned 335's horsepower advantage comes into play as the cars spend more time in gear negating the gear change advantage provided by the DCT allowing the 335 to inch up and close the gap.

      This video is a good real world example as without race gas or meth a 335 will struggle against a tuned M3 especially one with DCT. Of course 335 owners will point out they can upgrade their turbos. Then M3 owners will say they can supercharge. Then the debate escalates and escalate and there are dozens of pages to read of M3 and 335 owners essentially throwing feces at each other. BMW fans, just enjoy 335 versus M3 round 400,000 in the video below.

      M3 is the camera car.

      This article was originally published in forum thread: New video-DCT m3 takes down a FBO 335 with jb4, downpipes, FMIC and intake started by Wannbm5 View original post
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      1. Wedge1967's Avatar
        Wedge1967 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        ^ Well you guys already handled that lol I responded before reading the rest.
        Haha, I shouldn't post before my coffee and you shouldn't post before having a few drinks. Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Wedge1967 Click here to enlarge
        Haha, I shouldn't post before my coffee and you shouldn't post before having a few drinks. Click here to enlarge
        Im on a few.
      1. Wedge1967's Avatar
        Wedge1967 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Im on a few.
        Need to send you some shine. haha
      1. WNF_335i's Avatar
        WNF_335i -
      1. Puerto Rican 335d's Avatar
        Puerto Rican 335d -
        Spanked! !!
      1. warpeacelove's Avatar
        warpeacelove -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Puerto Rican 335d Click here to enlarge
        Spanked! !!
        That is an understatement.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by WNF_335i Click here to enlarge
        Good stuff that's exactly how it should go down. DCT gains on the shifts and once in higher gears the higher hp of the 335 takes over. That's pretty much textbook.

        M3 needs some more mods, tune only? That's it?
      1. Linracing's Avatar
        Linracing -
        I need to find a FBO M3 to run my 335.. Not really to many in close to me.
      1. WNF_335i's Avatar
        WNF_335i -
        yes sticky, it has tune only from what I know I don't really know the owner and im sure if it was fbo it will give me one hell of a run. I know if I ever decide to upgrade to a M3 its going to be a DCT
      1. Wedge1967's Avatar
        Wedge1967 -
        Why people try to compare M3's to 335's is beyond me. I enjoy the video and like Sticky said the outcome is textbook. In a straight line, the car with the most HP/TQ with all other things being equal will win... I personally have my own videos from Shift S3ctor pulling bus lengths on e92 FBO NA M3's.

        What you don't see is track day events where the same M3's really shine.... I have new found respect for the M3's performance after tracking my car at Portland International Raceway yesterday. Although I was catching them on the straights, they were eating me up in the corners. The only way I could over take the M3's was to push them in the corners and try to get the drivers to take the wrong line. Then I was able to pass them on the straights. But the more experienced drivers who always kept the line were untouchable as they would pull enough in the corners I couldn't catch them in the straights before the next corner.

        If you think your 335 is fast, go to the next track day event and see how well it stacks up to the other cars. I went through two tanks of e85 and 5 gal of methanol yesterday. I have to say it was the most fun I have even had with my car and look forward to doing it again. It was truly an eye opening event when I got my ass handed to me by an Audi TTRS...
      1. nafoo's Avatar
        nafoo -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Wedge1967 Click here to enlarge
        Why people try to compare M3's to 335's is beyond me. I enjoy the video and like Sticky said the outcome is textbook. In a straight line, the car with the most HP/TQ with all other things being equal will win... I personally have my own videos from Shift S3ctor pulling bus lengths on e92 FBO NA M3's.

        What you don't see is track day events where the same M3's really shine.... I have new found respect for the M3's performance after tracking my car at Portland International Raceway yesterday. Although I was catching them on the straights, they were eating me up in the corners. The only way I could over take the M3's was to push them in the corners and try to get the drivers to take the wrong line. Then I was able to pass them on the straights. But the more experienced drivers who always kept the line were untouchable as they would pull enough in the corners I couldn't catch them in the straights before the next corner.

        If you think your 335 is fast, go to the next track day event and see how well it stacks up to the other cars. I went through two tanks of e85 and 5 gal of methanol yesterday. I have to say it was the most fun I have even had with my car and look forward to doing it again. It was truly an eye opening event when I got my ass handed to me by an Audi TTRS...
        M3 suspension bits, get them ;D
      1. Wedge1967's Avatar
        Wedge1967 -
        on my wish list... along with rotors and pads, oil cooler (bigger one), track rims and tires, LSD... the list goes on an on...
      1. wreckz's Avatar
        wreckz -
        You did this to yourself starting this tread with this name ...
      1. Mr. Boost's Avatar
        Mr. Boost -
        Where was the take down?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mr. Boost Click here to enlarge
        Where was the take down?
        ?