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    • The world's most powerful E92 M3, BimmerBoost.com Gintani Stage 3.5+ supercharged E92 M3 hits 773 wheel horsepower - Dynograph and video

      The world horsepower record for the E9X M3 S65 V8 currently stands at 773 wheel horsepower and belongs to Gintani as well as BimmerBoost.com, just do not expect it to stand for very long. At Bimmerfest 2013 Gintani had the BimmerBoost.com project E92 M3 on display. They worked tirelessly to get the car ready for the event and took it to the dyno the night before. On MS109 race gas and 18.5 pounds of boost the car was able to hit 773 wheel horsepower with the completely stock DCT transmission slipping at 7250 rpm.

      Looking at the dyno graph below it is easy to see where the clutches begin to slip. At about 4750 rpm the clutch slips a bit then grabs as the pull continues up to 7250 rpm where it slips again and is unable to hold the power as the car is run to its 8500 rpm redline. Regardless, 7250 rpm was enough for a new world record on the S65 V8 platform and overall on the E9X BMW platform.

      Gintani will be rebuilding the cars DCT transmission and once that is complete the car will be back on the dyno for a clean run to redline and another world record. Looking at the graph, the car should conservatively be capable of ~830 wheel horsepower at 18.5 psi with MS109. What will it do on FTW Purple and 24 psi? We will eventually find out.

      Enjoy the picture and graph below. There is a video included of the car at Bimmerfest 2013. A huge crowd was gathered around it. For some reason the announcer at Bimmerfest never notified the crowd that the world's most powerful E92 M3 was in the house and that a new world record had been achieved on the platform. I waited for hours for the announcement which was hand written and delivered to the announcer but to no avail. Additionally, the car did not win a single award despite being the E92 M3 on display that had the most work done to it. Perhaps it needed some tacky neon green trim and red roundels? Definitely odd and awkward considering the years of engineering that have gone into it and that Gintani was a sponsor of the event. Perhaps if a competitor was not the headline sponsor Gintani and this car would have received the acknowledgement that was deserved and earned?

      Congratulations to Gintani on raising the bar to where nobody else on the platform is able to tread. This car is just getting warmed up.











      This article was originally published in forum thread: The world's most powerful E92 M3, BimmerBoost.com Gintani Stage 3.5+ supercharged E92 M3 hits 773 wheel horsepower - Dynograph and video started by Sticky View original post
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      1. SexiPYm3's Avatar
        SexiPYm3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by inter1032 Click here to enlarge
        theres one in ny or nj isnt there?
        If you're asking about a supercharged 6mt e9x m3, I believe there is one in the NY/NJ area.
      1. inter1032's Avatar
        inter1032 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Not that I know of.
        we talked about it on here after i saw him post it on i.g, he's running the ysi but i think you said he did the stroker instead
      1. mjmarovi's Avatar
        mjmarovi -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Group.america Click here to enlarge
        Not just power...... gearing, traction (laydown) yada yada yada

        Have a mate here with 770 whp/700 Ft-lbs Merc who is slower over a 1/4 mile than my E39 snail... he sits and spins the wheels for 5 secs while I snail, down the road very gently mate...... but he traps over 125
        Correct, that is the point, more than power to it, but traction is not really part of this discussion since it's a roll race and only discussing traps and not ET. Not sure where you thought I was trying to compare power, but good point nonetheless for whoever may not already understand something so basic.
      1. mjmarovi's Avatar
        mjmarovi -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SexiPYm3 Click here to enlarge
        Spare me your responses man. I have no time for ethugs that get besides themselves with their words. I have plenty of experience with turbo E46 M3s. I spoke from experience with dynos, graphs, seeing them in action and many more factors. My statement was one of worth because it is not about potential. These cars have done it already and unexpected issues prevented them from doing so. Read the graphs and go do some homework buddy. That graph would suggest that the car can definitely perform better than the 165mph mentioned. Don't argue shyt about stage 3 vtt shyt because it can't compete in this argument!!
        No, this is all about potential, as that is all you are trying to prove for some reason.
        Never said nor doubted it wasn't capable of more, it trapped 17x in the half before correct? And this particular event was shortened 400ft? So you don't really know what it would have trapped, but again are conveniently ''guesstimating'' a trap speed of 2mph higher than the car which won which also was not at full potential, so again, what is your goal here besides trying to prove potential of a car that had issues?

        "Ethug" I am not, if anything that seems to be an appropriate title for you in this thread, you are simply trying to be a dick and discredit someone else's accomplishment, I don't feel at all in the wrong for calling you out, no matter your experience (to me not proven, but no reason to doubt it) with said vehicle.
      1. SexiPYm3's Avatar
        SexiPYm3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mjmarovi Click here to enlarge
        No, this is all about potential, as that is all you are trying to prove for some reason.
        Never said nor doubted it wasn't capable of more, it trapped 17x in the half before correct? And this particular event was shortened 400ft? So you don't really know what it would have trapped, but again are conveniently ''guesstimating'' a trap speed of 2mph higher than the car which won which also was not at full potential, so again, what is your goal here besides trying to prove potential of a car that had issues?

        "Ethug" I am not, if anything that seems to be an appropriate title for you in this thread, you are simply trying to be a dick and discredit someone else's accomplishment, I don't feel at all in the wrong for calling you out, no matter your experience (to me not proven, but no reason to doubt it) with said vehicle.
        1, I gave credit and congrats on several occasions thus far. 2, call it guesstimating, ok. What says it if the car was at 165mph with plenty of room to make up the 10mph gap given there was enough room before the car gave up. 3, no one is going off of previous events anymore. This very event where said 165mph car was in route to run "guesstimated" time but had to let off because of unfortunate issues.
        There is no point here beside it would have made for a good run. what the $#@! can't you understand. You are not calling me out unless you are trying to run. I'm def not ethugging. You just can't comprehend what is being said here and now its a little old. Move on already.
      1. SYZ's Avatar
        SYZ -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mjmarovi Click here to enlarge
        Potential doesn't win races....performance wins races....
        F*cking THIS. God, some people need to STFU already.
      1. SLV335I's Avatar
        SLV335I -
        Congrats to Sticky. He really does deserve it. He did beat any other BMW/MB AMG that day. If these other cars that are "faster" want to run him he will be at the next event that he will be setting up. That's the only way to prove him wrong. Right now he is on top. And I'm sure it feels so good.
      1. benzy89's Avatar
        benzy89 -
        When both cars are 100% & throw up their "Kill Tune" dynos, it would be really interesting to compare the area under the curve on both.... Just another way to compare where each car stacks up.


        Looking forward, I can't wait to see how the S65 turns out once a TT setup has been installed/tuned.
      1. SLV335I's Avatar
        SLV335I -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
        When both cars are 100% & throw up their "Kill Tune" dynos, it would be really interesting to compare the area under the curve on both.... Just another way to compare where each car stacks up.


        Looking forward, I can't wait to see how the S65 turns out once a TT setup has been installed/tuned.
        As Sticky mentioned before not sure if the area under the curve will matter much for a roll race. The only way if both cars are running perfect for a E46 would be if it had more power than Sticky's car. Then it's who's car will last and not break during the run. That's it.
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by inter1032 Click here to enlarge
        theres one in ny or nj isnt there?
        ssshhh.... no one can know vortech sold more than 1 YSI s/c Click here to enlarge
      1. benzy89's Avatar
        benzy89 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SLV335I Click here to enlarge
        As Sticky mentioned before not sure if the area under the curve will matter much for a roll race. The only way if both cars are running perfect for a E46 would be if it had more power than Sticky's car. Then it's who's car will last and not break during the run. That's it.
        You might of interpreted that wrong... If anything the area under the curve for the RPM range between shifts matters the most. Let's evaluate the gears & RPMs you'll be hitting during an airfield roll race, from 40-180 (I'm not going to adjust Power Numbers for Gearing, so I'm strictly going to go off dynos):

        Marcus's Turbo E46 M3 6MT -- This car's peak power 1032 WHP & 780 WTQ; but what's most valuable about this is it makes over 1k WHP from ~6800 to 8k RPMs. Now let's look at gearing: From a roll starting ~40 MPH you're in 2nd gear. From 2nd to 3rd gear shift (70 MPH) sets you back to 6,000 RPMs, which is right where the turbo is ramping up (putting down high 800s WHP and hitting 1k before 7k). The 3rd to 4th gear shifts (around 100 MPH) also sets you back to 6k RPMs. The 4th to 5th gear shift (135 MPH) puts you at 6500 RPMs, putting out high-900 WHP. And finally the 5th to 6th gear shift (170 MPH) puts you back at 6500 RPMs also.

        Sticky's YSI E92 M3 DCT -- Will probably make ~1000 WHP & 650 WTQ when it's running 24psi on the YSI. Because the car is utilizing a centri-blower, we can look at a dyno and see every 500 RPMs an additional ~70 WHP is produced. So starting in a roll race with the DCT, you'll start in 2nd gear and shift into 3rd gear (60 MPH) which sets you back to 6000 RPMs (the car is putting down ~650 WHP at this point). Next is 3rd to 4th (90 MPH) and puts you at 6500 RPMs (~720 WHP). 4th to 5th (125 MPH) puts you at 7000 RPMs (~790 WHP), then 5th to 6th (150 MPH) at 7500 RPMs (~860 WHP) AND if we get to 6th to 7th (175 MPH) you're back at 7500 RPMs again.


        This is the point I was making in my last post regarding the strengths and weaknesses of each car. The E92 M3 is making record power for the S65 and the DCT is going to rip off lightning quick shifts, but the problem with the centri-blower is that it makes peak power at redline and post shift it's going to have to start the cycle of building boost (and power) all over again. Meanwhile, the E46 M3 is making great power and has much more area under the curve (remember, 1k+ WHP from ~6800 to 8k RPMs) because it's been paired with a properly sized turbo, but it can be "held back" by the Driver's Ability to shift gears. The NLS will help speed up the shifts and help maintain boost, but a human will never be as quick or consistent as the DCT.
      1. benzy89's Avatar
        benzy89 -
        From strictly looking at these numbers, the E46 M3 has the edge but is 100% dependent on the driver making quick quality shifts. If the driver misses a gear, takes too long, the E92 M3 would fly right by and probably not give up the lead.

        Now this prediction doesn't take into account "real world" variables like Grip & Aerodynamics, and is also going off a "guess-timate" for the E92 M3s power. SO until these cars line up, there's no way to be sure who would get the W.
      1. Mikecoupe's Avatar
        Mikecoupe -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        So my car ran faster? With less torque? How about that.
        Can you read ?his head lifted halfway down the track so imagine wat his trapspeed would be,but they will see you at the next event if you dare to show up instead of playing with your plastic hot blonde,did you let the air out and is she under your bed again?Click here to enlarge
      1. Team Plutonium's Avatar
        Team Plutonium -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        It's explained several times in this thread I say just read over it.

        It wasn't my transmission. I didn't want to be responsible for breaking it. They said look we'll run it and assume responsibility if the trans let's go. I said fine.
        So you are telling me that if you'd f@cked something up they wouldn't have taken care of it? You built a groundbreaking portfolio car with Gintani, spent gobs of money, and they would've left you hanging if you'd mess up a the clutch driving in a straight line instead of them. That's just weak.
      1. img's Avatar
        img -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mikecoupe Click here to enlarge
        Can you read ?his head lifted halfway down the track so imagine wat his trapspeed would be,but they will see you at the next event if you dare to show up instead of playing with your plastic hot blonde,did you let the air out and is she under your bed again?Click here to enlarge
        LMFAOL, NO SHOW !
      1. img's Avatar
        img -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Team Plutonium Click here to enlarge
        So you are telling me that if you'd f@cked something up they wouldn't have taken care of it? You built a groundbreaking portfolio car with Gintani, spent gobs of money, and they would've left you hanging if you'd mess up a the clutch driving in a straight line instead of them. That's just weak.
        Last time he drove that thing back in 08 on the strip he roasted the clutch haha
      1. ChuckD05's Avatar
        ChuckD05 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Team Plutonium Click here to enlarge
        So you are telling me that if you'd f@cked something up they wouldn't have taken care of it? You built a groundbreaking portfolio car with Gintani, spent gobs of money, and they would've left you hanging if you'd mess up a the clutch driving in a straight line instead of them. That's just weak.
        dude why do u give a f^&k. Who cares?


        I for one wouldnt want to drive the car until its 100%, dont be jelous bc no one wants to drive your car
      1. singletrack's Avatar
        singletrack -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SexiPYm3 Click here to enlarge
        lol.. Who even knows what your numbers are anyway since the dyno couldn't get a proper reading.
        Maybe faster that day, due to his car troubles. But you can't really get an accurate comparisons by trying to come his 165 (which was when he shut it down due to the lifted head), to your 173. His car is definitely faster than yours, no doubt at all. But you pulled off the victory that day, so congrats to you. Next event, we shall all be in attendance.
        LOL.

        ....like talking about being the best team in the NFL from your couch in February.
      1. singletrack's Avatar
        singletrack -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mikecoupe Click here to enlarge
        Can you read ?his head lifted halfway down the track so imagine wat his trapspeed would be,but they will see you at the next event if you dare to show up instead of playing with your plastic hot blonde,did you let the air out and is she under your bed again?Click here to enlarge
        Seriously, I almost never say this, but - "cry more noob"...

        The car couldn't do it that day because it wasn't setup right - that is part of racing. Accept that the car did not perform, fix it, come back. Don't be a whiney pu$$y.
      1. singletrack's Avatar
        singletrack -
        TP - I heard that if ESS blows your tranny you get a free one PLUS FREE INHOME STEREO WIRING FROM ROMAN!

        Are you going to run Sticky img?

        I love the people that talk sh1t on behalf of other people's cars. Hilarious.

        I mean, I love to talk sh1t - it can be fun. Generally (ok always), I try to talk sh1t on things that *I* can back up.

        Sticky - I hate the cursing filter...please take it off. Please?