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    • Not a fluke? F13 M6 proves it is faster than the Nissan GT-R (2012) from a roll

      The last time we saw these two cars do battle it almost caused a world forum war. Nissan GT-R fanboys could not believe their precious robot (excuse me, "Godzilla") got beat down hard and BMW fanboys rejoiced that the M6 was seemingly much stronger than the F10 M5. BS flags were thrown around, Nissan guys said it wasn't possible, and BimmerBoost took the stance that the race should be much closer. Something was fishy with that previous video and this new video answers some questions.


      The very first race shows that from a slow roll, the GT-R will have the advantage. Although the M6 does make up ground showing it pulls harder up top the race is very close with the GT-R edging the M6 which is forced to try to run it down. From a stop, this would have been ugly.

      The other two races are higher speed rolls and these favor the M6. The M6 does not run away easily as previously seen but in one of the runs where it gets a jump it continues to increase its distance. The GT-R is simply not able to catch or close distance against the car up top.

      So, this is a better video that better shows the cars respective strengths. The M6 is a highway monster whereas the GT-R excels more from lower speed situations where its all wheel drive and short gearing pay dividends. It would be interesting to see how a 2013 GTR which traps a little bit more mile per hour in the 1/4 mile than the 2012 model would fair against the M6. A wash? Maybe. This certainly isn't the end of the debate.

      This article was originally published in forum thread: M6 F12 Vs GTR 545Hp started by keikdasneak View original post
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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Autobahn335i Click here to enlarge
        Now convince BMW to put that engine in a reasonably prized, lightweight sportscar and you're my hero Click here to enlarge

        We can't turn back time, unfortunately.
        Time doesn't need to be turned back. BMW needs their balls back.
      1. Autobahn335i's Avatar
        Autobahn335i -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Time doesn't need to be turned back. BMW needs their balls back.
        Hopefully it will happen when they got their ass handed to them by AMG oftenly enough.
      1. Linracing's Avatar
        Linracing -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Your M6 number is wrong, it's 4088.
        Sorry Sticky gotta correct you on this one. You are wrong..

        1,924 kg (4,242 lb) Coupe / 2,056 kg (4,533 lb) Convertible

        Correct me if I am wrong but this weight was taking from BMW.com Wikipedia, car and driver and motor trend.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M6
        http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicle...ata/index.html
      1. Linracing's Avatar
        Linracing -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by inlineS54B32 Click here to enlarge
        Click here to enlarge

        Makes sense - I thought the M6 was a few hundred pounds less than the 5.
        It's not.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by keikdasneak Click here to enlarge
        Sorry Sticky gotta correct you on this one. You are wrong..

        1,924 kg (4,242 lb) Coupe / 2,056 kg (4,533 lb) Convertible

        Correct me if I am wrong but this weight was taking from BMW.com Wikipedia, car and driver and motor trend.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M6
        http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicle...ata/index.html
        I'm going by what was directly stated by BMW in their press release: http://www.bimmerboost.com/showthrea...nd-curb-weight

        Until we get some independent weights that is what I have to go by. I don't know where you got your figure.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by keikdasneak Click here to enlarge
        It's not.
        Yes, it is.
      1. whoosh's Avatar
        whoosh -
        Unladen weight spec on bmwusa is 4255lbs

        http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...fications.aspx
      1. andrew20195's Avatar
        andrew20195 -
        Unladen weight and curb weight numbers aren't really representative of what cars actually weigh on the street. The best thing is to use a publication (Road and Track is one) which actually weighs cars they test.

        Examples (from R&T.com):

        2013 GTR Premium
        Curb Weight: 3890 lbs.
        Test Weight: 4090 lbs.

        2013 BMW M5
        Curb Weight: 4360 lbs
        Test Weight: 4525 lbs

        No data panel for the M6 yet.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by whoosh Click here to enlarge
        Unladen weight spec on bmwusa is 4255lbs

        http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...fications.aspx
        But BMW's own press release differs? And why does the M6 pull away from the M5? It HAS to be significantly lighter there is no other explanation.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by andrew20195 Click here to enlarge
        Unladen weight and curb weight numbers aren't really representative of what cars actually weigh on the street. The best thing is to use a publication (Road and Track is one) which actually weighs cars they test.

        Examples (from R&T.com):

        2013 GTR Premium
        Curb Weight: 3890 lbs.
        Test Weight: 4090 lbs.

        2013 BMW M5
        Curb Weight: 4360 lbs
        Test Weight: 4525 lbs

        No data panel for the M6 yet.
        Exactly waiting on the M6 data panel however the M5 and M6 going head to head show us each time the M6 comes out ahead. BMW's press release shows the M6 as quiet a big lighter.

        The numbers for the M6 convertible show similar 1/4 mile times to the M5 which means the coupe will be faster due to being lighter...
      1. whoosh's Avatar
        whoosh -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        But BMW's own press release differs? And why does the M6 pull away from the M5? It HAS to be significantly lighter there is no other explanation.
        I agree the evidence, press release, and even magazine reviews show the M6 is lighter. Strange that the 2 BMW corporate web sites quoted in this thread have the (seemingly) wrong data though.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by whoosh Click here to enlarge
        I agree the evidence, press release, and even magazine reviews show the M6 is lighter. Strange that the 2 BMW corporate web sites quoted in this thread have the (seemingly) wrong data though.
        It wouldn't be the first time BMW mixed numbers up.