• Russians claiming a 1300+ wheel horsepower S85 V10 E63 M6 with nitrous plus ESS-Tuning supercharger kit? The miracle at the dyno

      So let's see here, some random Russian garage is claiming 1370 wheel horsepower (seriously) with an ESS-Tuning supercharged E63 M6 and nitrous. The claim is with 98 octane fuel and a stock motor no less. I mean if you are going to lie at least make it somewhat believable. The most powerful S85 V10 in the world is V.S. Motors twin turbo S85 V10 with an output of 1850 horses on methanol with a 4.8 liter block whose bore was decreased for more material.


      Now you are telling me some random Russian garage with an ESS kit running a tiny V3si blower (That the 4.0 liter S65 V8 in the M3 is capable of easily maxing) with some nitrous thrown on top is making 1370 wheel horsepower on 98 octane gas with 14.5 psi of boost and nitrous? Oh that's funny.

      If this shop wants to prove this, run the dyno in shootout mode please. What you see here is dyno manipulation at its finest. It's a load of crap ladies and gentlemen. First of all, RPI on a Dyno Dynamics with a full bolt on M5 plus the ESS supercharger kit only managed 576.8 wheel horsepower. So another 800 wheel horsepower is just some more boost and nitrous away? That isn't an optimistic dyno the Russians are just running, it is full on capable of miracles.

      The V3si due to the volumetric efficiency of the S85 likely won't even hit 14.5 psi without being severely overspun. The blower is only listed as capable of supporting 775 horsepower at the crank anyway by Vortech:


      ESS-Tuning themselves claims on 93 octane AKI (98 RON, like what the Russians are claiming to use) 640 horsepower at the crank with 6 psi of boost. Independent dynos have shown up to 560 wheel horsepower in STD correction or 540 wheel horsepower in SAE on a dynojet. That's a hell of a long way from 1370 wheel horsepower.

      Ok, let's give the benefit of the doubt. Let's say 6 psi of boost gets the car to 560 wheel horsepower. That's about 23.3 wheel horsepower per psi of boost. Let's go all the way to 14.5 psi which would be roughly 757 wheel horsepower and beyond the capability of the blower but let's just ignore that. That still leaves over 613 wheel horsepower to be generated by the nitrous and nothing under the hood there shows the type of direct port setup with a good amount of race fuel being fed in to supplement the nitrous necessary to even approach a 1/4 of that output.

      Ladies and gentlemen, this is simply someone with a Dyno Dynamics who played with the settings and is essentially trolling everyone. One has to be completely naive to believe some random tuner took an off the shelf kit, added some nitrous, and hit close to 1400 horsepower. If anyone for some reason believes this ask them to do this again in shootout mode. It will never happen.

      Let's just put it this way, see that 729.8 number from the previous pull in the vidieo? It's still optimistic but at least closer to what the car is really putting out. We have the Miracle on Ice. The Russians now have the Miracle on the Dyno.

      This article was originally published in forum thread: 1300hp S85? Yup. Dyno vid to prove it started by DFM View original post
      Comments 59 Comments
      1. dzenno@PTF's Avatar
        dzenno@PTF -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Even with a built motor still not happening.
        Why not? how would you know what was done to it? Let's not hate just because we don't know what's been done to it. For all we know it could be an LS motor in there lol
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno@ProTUNING Freaks Click here to enlarge
        Why not? how would you know what was done to it? Let's not hate just because we don't know what's been done to it. For all we know it could be an LS motor in there lol
        Wow people are stupid.

        You can see the motor and blower while it's on the dyno. The dyno dynamics can be changed to read whatever you want. The ASR "kit" as he calls it doesn't come with nozzles to support over 500 horsepower ok? The V3si can't support the power necessary.

        He would also need a tune with a wet kit to pull timing up top as there is no additional fuel being delivered. Plus, the stock fuel system won't flow enough anyway to support that power and there is no mention of an updated fuel system making this even more bogus.

        People are $#@!ing idiots.

        I'm going to go get a dyno and have the dyno dynamics read out 3000 hp and it must be true since the screen says it.
      1. dzenno@PTF's Avatar
        dzenno@PTF -
        Lol harsh maybe? Yeah i didnt watch the vid again..so idiotic of me
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        1300 wheel horsepower is easy. Just get an ESS kit. Get a generic wet nitrous kit. Bam, 1300+ at the wheels. It's freaking harder in Gran Turismo.
      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        nothing surprises me coming from russia....next thing you know they will say they have a 300mph standing mile X5M
      1. Muscleman's Avatar
        Muscleman -
        The readings are def wrong on this run! The only right is for 0.4b without NOS at the moment.
      1. Bimmerbear's Avatar
        Bimmerbear -
        That was not a 1300 wheel pull. 1300 wheel pulls last much shorter than that.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Bimmerbear Click here to enlarge
        That was not a 1300 wheel pull. 1300 wheel pulls last much shorter than that.
        They probably are somewhere around half that... if that.
      1. MSIZZLE's Avatar
        MSIZZLE -
        No way that car makes that power. Look what ugr goes thru t get there. That's like an r package lol.
      1. Muscleman's Avatar
        Muscleman -
        Absolutely no progress since last year's event) SC belt problems, plus they didn't have time tune it proparly, but no 1300+hp obviously.
        Best time RS6 Sportmile (about 900+hp) and CLS63(with some tune)
      1. Marz's Avatar
        Marz -
        "Where did you hear that?
        The Internet.
        And you believed it?
        Yeah. They can't put anything on the Internet that isn't true.
        Where did you hear that?
        The Internet. "

        If its on the
        internet it must be true
        1370 HP M6 HAHAHA LMAO !!!
      1. Twinturbom3's Avatar
        Twinturbom3 -
        bumpin an old thread.

        1300 at the flywheel and in shoot out mode, so if the intake temperature sensor is not tweaked the power is correct, 1300 at the flywheel, in shoot out mode. Shoot out mode of Dyno Dynamics does not allow any correction.
      1. GG///M3's Avatar
        GG///M3 -
        blah blah vodka blah blah 1300whp.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by GG///M3 Click here to enlarge
        blah blah vodka blah blah 1300whp.
        That's pretty much exactly how it went down.
      1. BigM62's Avatar
        BigM62 -
        I have real estate in Florida if you are interested.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BigM62 Click here to enlarge
        I have real estate in Florida if you are interested.
        What are you saying?
      1. BigM62's Avatar
        BigM62 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        What are you saying?
        1300 rwhp is what I am saying.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BigM62 Click here to enlarge
        1300 rwhp is what I am saying.
        I get your point now.
      1. BigM62's Avatar
        BigM62 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by disruptv Click here to enlarge
        In a street application with the smg? Who makes it?
        Putin