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    • Supercharged M3 versus single turbo upgrade 335i - ESS VT2-625 supercharged E92 M3 DCT S65 V8 versus Vishnu single turbo 335i with meth injection

      Interesting race here with the ever popular M3 versus 335i topic. Before this race creates a World War on BimmerBoost it really goes exactly as expected. Despite what Vishnu would have people think about "their" (FFtec) single turbo kit for the N54 it ends up just a bit slower than a DCT M3 running a basic Vortec V3si supercharger kit at 7 psi with a 91 octane pump gas tune. The 335i even has meth injection which of course it will need due to how Vishnu tends to go about masking fuel issues when trying to make big power on the N54 with the turbo kit.


      The 335i is likely a manual as the automatic single turbo cars still do not seem to be making the same power as the manual vehicles. So, at this point, it will really take a manual 335i with meth on race gas with the ST kit to keep pace with a mild supercharged DCT M3 on 91 pump as seen in the vid. The M3 pulls, but the 335i does a nice job considering the M3 seems to get a jump on it and has the disadvantage seen during shifts due to the dual clutch M3 transmission.

      The main thing this video shows is Shiv@Vishnu needs to beat stock internal M3's before running his mouth about what this turbo kit can do against more stout BMW's including more powerful M3's. Which right now, as the video shows, is not much of anything.

      This article was originally published in forum thread: Supercharged M3 versus single turbo upgrade 335i - ESS VT2-625 supercharged E92 M3 DCT S65 V8 versus Vishnu single turbo 335i with meth injection started by Sticky View original post
      Comments 49 Comments
      1. Sledgehammer's Avatar
        Sledgehammer -
        A win is win... However what I find interesting are the following things

        1. They dont start evenly at all and initially the M3 pulls without question
        2. Around 16-20 secs the 335 pulls hard puffs and puffs some smoke
        3. It repeats that same thing around the 24-27sec mark as well.

        No idea how the car is tuned but it would appear the 335 is pretty damn quick and needing more tuning to be 100%. But as I said a win is win
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sledgehammer Click here to enlarge
        A win is win... However what I find interesting are the following things

        1. They dont start evenly at all and initially the M3 pulls without question
        2. Around 16-20 secs the 335 pulls hard puffs and puffs some smoke
        3. It repeats that same thing around the 24-27sec mark as well.

        No idea how the car is tuned but it would appear the 335 is pretty damn quick and needing more tuning to be 100%. But as I said a win is win
        I'm sure this car could improve but it would be like saying the M3 could use a race gas tune, 11 psi of boost, and meth injection.
      1. Autobahn335i's Avatar
        Autobahn335i -
        A car with a VT2-625 kit is not "basic" or "mild supercharged" in my book.

        Still, a win is a win.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Autobahn335i Click here to enlarge
        A car with a VT2-625 kit is not "basic" or "mild supercharged" in my book.
        91 octane 7 psi with that baby blower, lol, yeah it is.
      1. Q4P's Avatar
        Q4P -
        m3 wins nicely but it was still a half car jump in the beginning
      1. Sledgehammer's Avatar
        Sledgehammer -
        As stated the 3 series appears to need more tuning, it's showing signs of speed in the run. If thats the final tune of the car it appears lacking. If its still being developed then I wouldnt count it out quite yet.
      1. Puerto Rican 335d's Avatar
        Puerto Rican 335d -
        A win is a win is a win!! But you can see the M3 had a nice jump and the 335 fell asleep on this . As the race goes i could not see the 335 beating the M, but like Sledge stated it needs a better tuning and better drive(r) next time but It must of been fun to keep up with the Jones's
      1. benzy89's Avatar
        benzy89 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sledgehammer Click here to enlarge
        As stated the 3 series appears to need more tuning, it's showing signs of speed in the run. If thats the final tune of the car it appears lacking. If its still being developed then I wouldnt count it out quite yet.
        The Vishnu/FFTEC Single Turbos have been getting "tuned" for over a year now (http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=651949), at this rate Sticky's car will be running 100% before the Vishnu/FFTEC STs
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        @shiv@vishnu

        what a fail the tuning is on that car!!!! hahahahahahahahaha!! a 125mph trapping car with about 550 hp pulls on it.

        well done shivster, well done
      1. Eric335's Avatar
        Eric335 -
        N54>2JZ>any M3.

        /thread Click here to enlarge
      1. crazylegs's Avatar
        crazylegs -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        @shiv@vishnu

        what a fail the tuning is on that car!!!! hahahahahahahahaha!! a 125mph trapping car with about 550 hp pulls on it.

        well done shivster, well done

        I want to so captaininsanos 163.3 run anyone know who he ran against? shiv said he was on "25 PSI about 650 whp"
      1. benzy89's Avatar
        benzy89 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by crazylegs Click here to enlarge
        shiv said he was on "~24 PSI about 650 whp"
        Fixed & that's Shiv's bull$#@! math that every PSI is adding ~20 WHP. Honestly I couldn't care less about the Vishnu/FFTEC ST because it has yet to prove itself in real world conditions besides a dyno.
      1. Terry@BMS's Avatar
        Terry@BMS -
        I think that is the same M3 I raced in Bakersfield and put 2-3 cars on with our 135 when it would shift properly. That car makes 500rw. It seems like the single turbo car has to be making the equivalent of only 460whp or so at least in this video.
      1. Terry@BMS's Avatar
        Terry@BMS -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by crazylegs Click here to enlarge
        I want to so captaininsanos 163.3 run anyone know who he ran against? shiv said he was on "25 PSI about 650 whp"
        Here is a video of captaininsano racing one of our customers who makes around 430whp. He's full weight with a passenger and loses by 2-3 cars on a clean start? This race is more baffling to me than the other video in this thread!

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      1. MisterEm's Avatar
        MisterEm -
        Apparently the FFTEC Single Turbo was the fastest recorded E9X at the event...Click here to enlarge

        I wonder if Drew agrees?

        Attachment 29423
      1. Black Sheep's Avatar
        Black Sheep -
        Yet another "left off early" comment
      1. benzy89's Avatar
        benzy89 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MisterEm Click here to enlarge
        Apparently the FFTEC Single Turbo was the fastest recorded E9X at the event...Click here to enlarge

        I wonder if Drew agrees?

        Attachment 29423
        Posted that in the Shift Sector thread, $#@! is super questionable & I'm def calling Click here to enlarge also
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by crazylegs Click here to enlarge
        I want to so captaininsanos 163.3 run anyone know who he ran against? shiv said he was on "25 PSI about 650 whp"

        how does a car thats faster than all other e9x, lose to or barely beat out other e9x and n54's but has more mph.. funny how that can happen.. better put the waders on.. $#@!s getting deep in here
      1. Puerto Rican 335d's Avatar
        Puerto Rican 335d -
        Lost Marine i gather he had the wind on his back favoring him, LOL!!!
      1. leo985i's Avatar
        leo985i -
        Man those single turbo kits sure seem like a waste. Have not seen anything that I would consider "proven" regarding these expensve ass kits. Terry's 135i beat the same M3 that single turbo 335i ran I believe. What the $#@! is wrong with those singles after almost a year since their release?