• M156 versus M156, Black Series versus Black Series, Weistec versus Weistec - Supercharged Stage III+ 1000+ horsepower CLK63 AMG BS and 750+ horsepower Stage III C63 AMG BS go at it

      Some very interesting sibling rivalry to see here especially for M156 V8 63 AMG enthusiasts. Both cars here are Black Series with the W209 CLK63 AMG Black Series obviously being the older of the two using the 7G transmission with a torque converter and the W204 C63 AMG Black Series being the newer car featuring the newer 7-speed MCT Speedshift automatic which does not have a torque converter. Both cars have the M156 6.2 liter V8 although the C63 AMG Black Series has stronger engine internals and makes more power from the factory.


      The internals are strong for the C63 Black Series which still runs the factory engine internals but the CLK63 Black Series has a Weistec built motor setup with forged internal engine components. Those components are said to be good for over 1000 horsepower making them stronger than what the C63 AMG has from the factory.

      Regardless, both cars also employ the 3.0 liter twin screw blower used in Weistec Stage III supercharged applications. The difference being one is making much more boost as the C63 AMG is said to be somewhere around 11 psi. What boost and other mods the CLK runs is anyone's guess as the owner tends to be difficult to deal with thinking his car is the fastest thing on planet Earth whose setup should be treated with the same secrecy as nuclear launch codes as if on the same level of importance. The CLK is likely somewhere in the 9XX rear wheel horsepower range while the C63 is somewhere in the upper 6XX wheel horsepower range.

      So, on one hand we have similar base motors, although one built with aftermarket components, both running the same supercharger. On the other hand we have one car which has a Weistec built "Bulletproof" AMG 722.9 7G transmission while the other has the factory AMG 7-speed MCT. Weight is close from the factory but the CLK has been lightened quite a bit so that works in its favor. The CLK is tuned for race gas though while the C63 is tuned for pump gas.

      So what is the result? Well, not hard to guess but nice to see the comparison between the two cars. Video below.

      This article was originally published in forum thread: M156 versus M156, Black Series versus Black Series, Weistec versus Weistec - Supercharged Stage III+ CLK63 AMG BS and Stage III C63 AMG BS go at it started by Sticky View original post
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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Just chill out guys. User your ignore lists...
      1. ecampbell's Avatar
        ecampbell -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Just chill out guys. User your ignore lists...
        You could have avoided all this by simply asking questions and not just blindly posting what you thought was a technically accurate article. You defense..no one told me....what a crok.

        you are used to people handing you stuff and you honestly believe you have never made a mistake.

        here is the deal, ask my nicely and I will tell you what is inaccurate with what you wrote.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ecampbell Click here to enlarge
        You could have avoided all this by simply asking questions and not just blindly posting what you thought was a technically accurate article
        It's not blindly posting when the information was accurate and whether it still happens to be is being contested. You could have avoided all this by simply adding some supplemental information, right?

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ecampbell Click here to enlarge
        you are used to people handing you stuff and you honestly believe you have never made a mistake.
        If I never believe I made a mistake why would I have an edit button?

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ecampbell Click here to enlarge
        here is the deal, ask my nicely and I will tell you what is inaccurate with what you wrote.
        Here's the deal, I'm going outside to enjoy this beautiful day and not caring. If you want "accuracy" it's on you. Peace.
      1. Gondon's Avatar
        Gondon -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        It's not blindly posting when the information was accurate and whether it still happens to be is being contested. You could have avoided all this by simply adding some supplemental information, right?



        If I never believe I made a mistake why would I have an edit button?



        Here's the deal, I'm going outside to enjoy this beautiful day and not caring. If you want "accuracy" it's on you. Peace.
        ROFL this has to be the dumbest defense and you don't even have the balls to admit you're wrong. If your source is not 100% certain than you're wrong. You shouldn't be using words like accurate, likely, clearly...they don't suit you well. No one cares what you believed. It's either happened or didn't happen.

        Politician Joke- Hey, I'm telling you all the TRUTH about me lying. See I'm an honest politician I TOLD YOU ALL I LIED and stole those funds. I didn't lie about lying. I told you the truth. VOTE FOR ME. BILL THE HONEST MAN..

        This guy drives a BMW? explains enough
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Gondon Click here to enlarge
        This guy drives a BMW? explains enough
        For sure! Good point.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Gondon Click here to enlarge
        ROFL this has to be the dumbest defense and you don't even have the balls to admit you're wrong. If your source is not 100% certain than you're wrong. You shouldn't be using words like accurate, likely, clearly...they don't suit you well. No one cares what you believed. It's either happened or didn't happen.
        If there is something to add I said add it. That's me not saying I'm wrong or being open to info? Good point! Well played, well done.

        The way the word accurate was used in the post you just quoted was if you want "accuracy" implying that it is innacurate go ahead and provide more info as until then I'm operating under the reasoning that the setup I know of is accurate. Apparently you want guessing games. You should probably learn that what precedes or follows your use of a word can affect it's meaning.

        Not going to ask what you drive, you probably shouldn't have a license.
      1. ecampbell's Avatar
        ecampbell -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        It's not blindly posting when the information was accurate and whether it still happens to be is being contested. You could have avoided all this by simply adding some supplemental information, right?



        If I never believe I made a mistake why would I have an edit button?



        Here's the deal, I'm going outside to enjoy this beautiful day and not caring. If you want "accuracy" it's on you. Peace.
        You posted the article within the last coupe of days, enlighten me and tell me what investigative work you did to think the information was accurate. Ultimately this is your website and not mine so it up to you, not me to make sure your article is correct.

        The very fact you are happy to leave the article up when you know it is likely wrong (I am not the only one saying it is not accurate) shows that your Dad's money might have bought you an education, house, cars, and the capital to start this website, but it bought you zero common sense.

        All you had to do was show a bit of humility and ask me and I would have pointed out what you missed. On multiple occasions I have held out an olive branch and in every instance you have essentially said screw you.


        Your at the point where your even getting sarcastic comments from your sponsors (the guys that ay your bills). How do you think they must feel?

        My last post so if anyone has comments to me, please pm me and I will get back to you or, come onto the other mb site and I will be sure to respond.