• Race video : Stock F10 M5 struggles with and gets beat by a stock P31 W204 C63 AMG in a 1/2 mile race

      More and more videos coming from the No Fly Zone event and this one is particularly telling. The F10 M5 has a twin turbocharged V8 and a dual clutch transmission. The C63 AMG in comparison has a 6.2 liter naturally aspirated V8 with an automatic transmission. Considering the F10 M5 has a large horsepower advantage of almost 100 wheel horsepower due to being underrated and putting down in 5XX wheel horsepower range stock a stock C63 AMG should be easy work for it especially in a half mile race.


      The C63 AMG has the P31 package which provides the 6.2 liter M156 V8 with stronger forged internals and a more aggressive tune. It is about equal to a C63 AMG with a tune on it so power should be somewhere in the low 420 WHP range. So the M5 has more power, but also a few hundred more pounds to carry.

      The C63 belongs to BenzBoost member @xtyper and he claims it is stock. The M5 is also stock. Hard to understand why the M5 does not pull away up top with all that horsepower.

      This article was originally published in forum thread: Race video : Stock F10 M5 struggles with and gets beat by a stock P31 W204 C63 AMG in a 1/2 mile race started by Sticky View original post
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      1. LZH's Avatar
        LZH -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JonsC63AMG Click here to enlarge
        ^ ouch!
        the truth hurts Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        So I have been talking to gustav and he said in sweden m5's beat tuned z06's and c63's because of the air. Makes sense.
      1. Jacob502's Avatar
        Jacob502 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        So I have been talking to gustav and he said in sweden m5's beat tuned z06's and c63's because of the air. Makes sense.
        BS
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jacob502 Click here to enlarge
        BS
        Of course it is I made it up.
      1. flipm3's Avatar
        flipm3 -
        Insanely fast!

        Anyone that knows me, knows that I am a BMW M Fanboy for life...heck look at my screen name! But damn, do I want a C63, C63BS, and E63 Estate....hehe.

        Nice work @xtyper . If you have mods planned for this car, I imagine it still stomp on tuned F10 M5s!
      1. UsualSuspect's Avatar
        UsualSuspect -
        LOL! This is a Sticky situation now! LOL!
      1. Laloosh's Avatar
        Laloosh -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        It's got almost 100 whp on it...
        Peak doesn't tell the whole story, what do the curves look like?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
        Peak doesn't tell the whole story, what do the curves look like?
        Ya it's pretty often that plus 100 whp at peak doesn't translate to more torque under the curve when coming from a twin turbo V8 versus a naturally aspirated one. Good point.
      1. Laloosh's Avatar
        Laloosh -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Ya it's pretty often that plus 100 whp at peak doesn't translate to more torque under the curve when coming from a twin turbo V8 versus a naturally aspirated one. Good point.
        Tq down low is useless, lets talk about their power ands during max straight line acceleration. Does the f10 fall off like the n54 the closer you get to redline?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
        Tq down low is useless, lets talk about their power ands during max straight line acceleration. Does the f10 fall off like the n54 the closer you get to redline?
        Cool dude go look up the dynos and all the numbers and make some graphs and get back to me kthxbye
      1. Laloosh's Avatar
        Laloosh -
        Typical sticky
      1. j2m's Avatar
        j2m -
        Cool
      1. LuckyKimmy's Avatar
        LuckyKimmy -
        I look forward to seeing you there!