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    • Upgraded turbo N54 335i with BMS JB4 tune takes on a 458 Italia from a roll twice and goes door to door with it

      Two simply awesome race videos here from the past weekend at the No Fly Zone event. The 335i in the video is a 6-speed manual with Rob Beck turbos and a Burger Motorsports Juice Box 4 G5 ISO. It also has full bolt ons including downpipes, FMIC, and presumably meth injection. The 458 Italia appears to be stock. What makes this race impressive is how the 335 does being a 6-speed manual going against the quick shifting dual clutch transmission in the 458.


      The first race is pretty close with the 335 just edging the 458 out up top but the second race is quite telling where the 458 gets a slight lead only for the 335 to eliminate the gap. The cars are very evenly matched and the 458 Italia is no slouch especially from a roll. This 335 is putting down some good power, videos below.



      This article was originally published in forum thread: Upgraded turbo N54 335i with BMS JB4 tune takes on a 458 Italia from a roll twice and goes door to door with it started by Sticky View original post
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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by trufus Click here to enlarge
        If I were the 458 owner and I got beat by a 335 I'd ask the guy what kind of mods he had, congratulate him, and drive home in my $#@!ing Ferrari.
        There we go.
      1. Flinchy's Avatar
        Flinchy -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        We seriously even need to ask this?
        shouldn't have had the question mark.
      1. Flinchy's Avatar
        Flinchy -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        In the 450's. I just think the crank rating is too high.



        Headers:

        http://www.bimmerboost.com/images/im...3/dyno73-1.jpg

        Add in a an affordable tune, Eurocharged let's say, and you're golden. Oh and I'd get race headers not ones with integrated cats. Regardless, it's like $6k total if done right.
        and if you can afford a 250k car, 6k in mods should be pocket change

        can't believe they have 2 sets of cats though, they're already ridiculously loud (the ones i've heard at least)
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Flinchy Click here to enlarge
        can't believe they have 2 sets of cats though, they're already ridiculously loud (the ones i've heard at least)
        Well part of the Ferrari experience is the sound. The stock cats off the OEM manifold are 700 cpi from what I understand.
      1. Q4P's Avatar
        Q4P -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        My main point is the Ferrari isn't built for straightline racing and offers things no amount of mods to a 3 series can change, that is my main point.
        Thats what I thought too... until a guy I knew purchased a red F430 a long time ago and I was less than impressed... I even drove it and minus the sound; the car did nothing for me. As far as the 458 is concerned; it's an unbearably expensive car and like 100% of expensive cars; once you get past a certain $$$ point, the improvements are truly minorly incremental.

        Now a TT 458 is probably much different yet again... but for the price; it's crack.
      1. idriveslo's Avatar
        idriveslo -
        I knew this would turn into a pissing contest with the 458 video like it has everywhere else. Lol everyone saying the ferrari owner must have been mad, or upset, or anything other than bat$#@! happy he is driving a 458 was probably born an invalid. The two cars are not even not in the same class, they reside on different planets. And for everyone saying he paid $xxx to be beaten by a car that cost $xxx you are even more retarded. Speed in a straight line has always, and always will be dirt cheap in comparison to speed in turns. just stop, stop the madness.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Q4P Click here to enlarge
        I even drove it and minus the sound; the car did nothing for me.
        Did you just back it in and out of his driveway?

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Q4P Click here to enlarge
        As far as the 458 is concerned; it's an unbearably expensive car
        Not really, expense is relative. It's a bargain compared to the LF-A isn't it?

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Q4P Click here to enlarge
        00% of expensive cars; once you get past a certain $$$ point, the improvements are truly minorly incremental.
        No, not really. It's exclusivity, design, and just the way the car makes you feel can't be replicated by say, oh, a 335. Part of its appeal is its expense and design and not just the performance.

        A Shelby GT500 offers more power for far less money than the new 911 GT3. It's the way the GT3 goes about delivering its power and its engineering (as well as name) that is worth the money making it a far more desireable car.

        The 458 isn't just a 3-Series with some boost. It's a 9000 rpm direct injected mid engine V8 with a lightweight body. It's special.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by idriveslo Click here to enlarge
        Lol everyone saying the ferrari owner must have been mad, or upset, or anything other than bat$#@! happy he is driving a 458 was probably born an invalid. The two cars are not even not in the same class, they reside on different planets.
        Exactly.

        But it's this same mentality that 335 owners use all the time.

        I own a 458 Italia, what do I care if some 335 wins a straightline race? It's as if the 335 is justifying its existence in the context of keeping up with a stock Ferrari.

        Is it impressive to run with a car as great as an Italia? Of course, but anyone thinking straightline speed is the main factor is deluding themselves.
      1. onurleft's Avatar
        onurleft -
        I believe FabSpeed made something like 506whp with Headers and no cats + re-tune. The base car did something like 460whp.

        That's a huge gain considering the cost of the parts and tuning. Enough to walk this 335 hard.

        No comment on the I beat you nutswinging this and that cheap car. No 458 owner is going to re-considering anything getting beat by bigger turbo, nitrous, cage I don't care what Civic, 335, Suzuki Samuri. At the end of the day, he's in a 458 and the other person isn't.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by onurleft Click here to enlarge
        I believe FabSpeed made something like 506whp with Headers and no cats + re-tune. The base car did something like 460whp.
        Thanks, I didn't see that dyno.
      1. Terry@BMS's Avatar
        Terry@BMS -
        IIRC the 458 was driven by the son of a very generous father, who let him beat on his baby all day. Sweet car. But I was happy to see SRanch335 go nose to nose with it. Click here to enlarge
      1. M3_WC's Avatar
        M3_WC -
        LOL at the people doubting the epicness of the 458. Too f*cking funny.

        The 335i could have 1000hp. It is still a hunk of sh*t compared to the 458.
      1. Eric335's Avatar
        Eric335 -
        What are you guys talking about? The 335i is obviously the same as a Ferrari now. Oh, and a Supra too.
      1. SleepersOwn's Avatar
        SleepersOwn -
        Weird to see some of the comments in here.

        Unless you're just some rich yuppie that has no concept of car modifications, why would you be the least bit upset at a car beating you ( ANY car ). Confused ? Sure. Upset ? Uh, no. A real car enthusiast knows where their money is going and understands the reality of life. That reality is: There is ALWAYS someone faster. If you need your loss from another car to come by some stripped down race prepped car, or something valued much higher than your car, you're pathetic. If I chose to purchase a 458, I know what I should and shouldn't be able to beat ( when comparing stocks of course ). Once a car is modded, you're advised to expect the unexpected. This vid was a simple display of that. I would do exactly as another member here posted. Ask for mods, give my congrats and drive home happy as I came. You know, what REAL car enthusiasts do.

        Simply knowing the mods will stifle any ill feelings and educate you to the capabilities of a certain setup ( in case you were to run into something similar again ). This video was certainly suprising. That 335 is definitely a beast ! And you're right Sticky, that runway really looks tip top.
      1. BMW86's Avatar
        BMW86 -
        Drag racing is an ego contest and in a lot of cases it comes down to who's prepared to spend more $$$.

        Losing sucks. Nobody races to lose, we all want to win, it's hard to top that adrenaline rush.

        I'm sure the 458 owner won't lose any sleep over the loss but he will most definitely remember this loss for a long time.

        He will also gain some respect for what BMW's are capable of and give it a second thought about running one again, especially if he's got his woman or mates in the car.

        Losing to an equally impressive supercar, even if by bus-lengths is easier to accept, but losing to an entry level non-///M 3 series? It's a peasants car by comparison.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BMW86 Click here to enlarge
        Drag racing is an ego contest and in a lot of cases it comes down to who's prepared to spend more $$$.
        Anything automotive performance related comes down to who spends more $$$.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BMW86 Click here to enlarge
        He will also gain some respect for what BMW's are capable of and give it a second thought about running one again, especially if he's got his woman or mates in the car.
        He's never going to run into an RB turbo upgraded 335 on race gas on the street.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BMW86 Click here to enlarge
        Losing to an equally impressive supercar, even if by bus-lengths is easier to accept, but losing to an entry level non-///M 3 series? It's a peasants car by comparison.
        I didn't say it...
      1. nafoo's Avatar
        nafoo -
        This thread is full of lawls. I'm sure the 458 owner was ready to straight up trade cars with the 335 after the 2nd race and the 335 owner politely refused because his car was faster...

        Let's be serious Click here to enlarge
      1. BMW86's Avatar
        BMW86 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Anything automotive performance related comes down to who spends more $$$.
        Not the case in this instance.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        He's never going to run into an RB turbo upgraded 335 on race gas on the street.
        No.
      1. Autobahn335i's Avatar
        Autobahn335i -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        The first part of your statement makes sense, it's the second part that is stupid. If you owned a 458 Italia and were so super concerned with straightline racing, you can build it to crap on any 335 in existence with just a stock internal low boost turbo kit. So there's nothing to be upset about. I'd be more angry about not being able to afford a 458 Italia.
        Well the 458 owner was at the event, wasn't he? So he obviously cared. And he's for sure NOT amused to see his bella macchina get spanked by a lowly bimmer and the vids spread around on the Interwebs.

        And no, he probably doesn't care if it's a 335i or an M3...

        Ok, not all Ferrari owners are arrogant pieces of $#@!, there's a handful of them which are enthusiasts too like we are. Sadly that's the minority.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BMW86 Click here to enlarge
        Not the case in this instance.
        Kind of does.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BMW86 Click here to enlarge
        No.
        Ya.