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    • ESS-Tuning accuses Evolve of using ESS Tunes, potentially dangerous tuning, and BimmerBoost of generating propaganda for Evolve

      The e-mails below come to us from a user who switched from ESS to Evolve tuning. This is not uncommon, a lot of people have been making this switch lately and it seems to be making ESS uncomfortable. They have not made many of these claims publicly but you can see how they operate behind the scenes with it essentially boiling down to implying Evolve is not capable of doing their own tuning, their tuning could be dangerous, and that Evolve has to resort to modifying the ESS software.


      These accusations as you can see in the forwarded e-mails come from Asbjorn at ESS. Now, Evolve has really been taking over especially in the S85 V10 tuning scene. This seems to have greatly threatened ESS-Tuning. Additionally, ESS goes to length of saying BimmerBoost generates propaganda for Evolve as if BimmerBoost can be held responsible for ESS customer service or individuals choosing to change their tunes. It was not BimmerBoost that forced the user @MisterEm to switch companies and provide his review of the customer service difference between the two and it is not as if he has only discussed his experience here as if held hostage at gunpoint.

      It's a bit of shame to see this behavior behind the scenes. It is also a shame ESS seems to be blaming others for their customer service pushing users to other companies. That is not something in BimmerBoost's control.

      Regardless, Evolve is making tremendous headway in tuning. The user who switched here seems to be happier with his Evolve tune and was upset with the behavior displayed by Asbjorn at ESS giving the go ahead to post these e-mails. Whether he wants to chime in or not is his business, BimmerBoost will not violate his confidence. What BimmerBoost will do however is expose ridiculous accusations especially when someone is simply happy with their tuning experience using a company other than ESS-Tuning. Perhaps Asbjorn at ESS should focus more on quality customer service and tuning rather than writing nasty, untrue, and accusatory e-mails?

      Here is the first e-mail saying Evolve is just using ESS software for supercharged tuning and not their own:


      Those who have been following supercharger development have seen Evolve use and develop their own software. Additionally, those that have seen reviews of Evolve software have seen the impressions regarding the quality of the tuning. Accusing Evolve of just using ESS software and essentially not being capable of doing their own software development and having to modify ESS tunes without even seeing the work done is a bit low. For the record, there will be some basic similarities in practically every S54 forced induction setup on the stock DME.

      Second e-mail:


      Asbjorn accuses BimmerBoost of stating ESS could not get the user in question's car running right. BimmerBoost can not find any article published where it has done what ESS accuses BimmerBoost of doing. The only article published regarding ESS and Evolve was a user's own words, not those of BimmerBoost, of his experience switching from ESS to Evolve for his tuning. This is quite simply a blatant lie that clearly Asbjorn felt comfortable saying in private but not in public. His mistake to choose to lie and disparage regardless.

      Here are the issues this particular customer experienced prompting him to explore other tuning options. Not much different from others who have also experienced similar issues and who have decided to make the switch to Evolve to resolve them:




      Here is an e-mail from Asbjorn at ESS to said customer once he got wind of the customer trying other tuning options. The e-mail just directly states that Evolve is tuning using ESS software and not their own and implies Evolve's tune will be dangerous. Asbjorn states that if the timing is changed it "could be fatal' implying that Evolve is not competent in knowing how to adjust the timing on the fuel quality used in the application and also that their tune can cause engine failure over time as if getting a custom Evolve tune is worse than a canned tune:


      This is all pretty ridiculous, childish, and petty. People will switch tunes. There is not only one tuner capable of tuning a BMW forced induction setup. Evolve has plenty of cars running well. It is their own quality customer service, tuning, and results that is causing such a changover in various markets most visible in the S85 scene currently. People are happy with Evolve tunes. It's ok to have competition. BimmerBoost will not generate propaganda for anyone and knows Evolve can stand on their own merit which is why they are welcome to engage the userbase here. What BimmerBoost will do however is expose this type of shady behavior behind the scenes. The words you see in the ESS e-mails are Asbjorn's own. Come to your own conclusion.

      This article was originally published in forum thread: ESS-Tuning accuses Evolve of using ESS Tunes, potentially dangerous tuning, and BimmerBoost of generating propaganda for Evolve started by Sticky View original post
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      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mkpoto Click here to enlarge
        yeah pretty nasty stuff, i just went on m3p and all i see is who is the best turner bs.. I even got bashed for my review of the Evolve tune
        funny how Evolve N/A tune does hold the record for 60-130, minus that one scumbag liar fraud who exceeds laws of physics with 6 psi..
      1. JohnBlaze's Avatar
        JohnBlaze -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by flipm3 Click here to enlarge
        Good stuff to say the least. Curious if it would coincidentally fit a ZHP that happened to have a S54... Click here to enlarge


        I am ready to beta test this as well
      1. evolve's Avatar
        evolve -
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        Soon....

        This thread gives us, somehow, some motivation. I cannot think of why !
      1. flipm3's Avatar
        flipm3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by evolve Click here to enlarge
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        Soon....

        This thread gives us, somehow, some motivation. I cannot think of why !
        ...maybe I shouldn't buy cams yet then... Click here to enlarge
      1. BrianSpilner's Avatar
        BrianSpilner -
        I'll be contacting you shortly about a tune, Evolve. I am using your favorite blower (C38-91), but with custom parts that your ordinary customers probably haven't changed out before. I think you'll be excited.
      1. evolve's Avatar
        evolve -
        Look very much forward to hearing from you!
      1. flipm3's Avatar
        flipm3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BrianSpilner Click here to enlarge
        I'll be contacting you shortly about a tune, Evolve. I am using your favorite blower (C38-91), but with custom parts that your ordinary customers probably haven't changed out before. I think you'll be excited.
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by evolve Click here to enlarge
        Look very much forward to hearing from you!
        @evolve take good care of @BrianSpilner . He's another local of Chicago that has a CRAZY car, haha.
      1. MisterEm's Avatar
        MisterEm -
        stop corrupting my brain with thoughts of boost! All of you... @evolve, @flipm3 and @normcaldwell.
      1. Artsoasis's Avatar
        Artsoasis -
        Let me know evolve and I will purchase ur kit for my 2004 m3 (M3Freak86's Car) once I get back from this deployment.
      1. benzy89's Avatar
        benzy89 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by evolve Click here to enlarge
        Look very much forward to hearing from you!
        Sent you guys a PM about an N54 Evolve-R tune & some more info..... no love back Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
        Sent you guys a PM about an N54 Evolve-R tune & some more info..... no love back Click here to enlarge
        Did you PM Imran? Sal is in Finland right now.

        @Imranevolve
      1. benzy89's Avatar
        benzy89 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Did you PM Imran? Sal is in Finland right now.

        @Imranevolve
        PM'd the general evolve account, I'll resend it to Imran. Thanks
      1. flipm3's Avatar
        flipm3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MisterEm Click here to enlarge
        stop corrupting my brain with thoughts of boost! All of you... @evolve , @flipm3 and @normcaldwell .
        ...That's what you get for tempting @normcaldwell and I get all the other fancy stuff Click here to enlarge

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Artsoasis Click here to enlarge
        Let me know evolve and I will purchase ur kit for my 2004 m3 (M3Freak86's Car) once I get back from this deployment.
        Hey! Congrats on the new car! Chris and I have gotten to know one another fairly well on a car level over the years. You are getting A GREAT CAR! Practically as close to buying new as possible. Come back safely from your tour and thanks for serving!
      1. Artsoasis's Avatar
        Artsoasis -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by flipm3 Click here to enlarge
        Hey! Congrats on the new car! Chris and I have gotten to know one another fairly well on a car level over the years. You are getting A GREAT CAR! Practically as close to buying new as possible. Come back safely from your tour and thanks for serving!
        Thanks! I am looking forward to continuing such an epic journal. I am already planning a few things I am going to do once I'm back. A S/C kit from evolve is near the top of my list of things to do with only sub-frame reinforcement and preventative maintenance being ahead.
      1. TZ04XJR's Avatar
        TZ04XJR -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Artsoasis Click here to enlarge
        Thanks! I am looking forward to continuing such an epic journal. I am already planning a few things I am going to do once I'm back. A S/C kit from evolve is near the top of my list of things to do with only sub-frame reinforcement and preventative maintenance being ahead.
        Sounds like you have a proper plan mapped out! Good luck and keep us posted with the development.

        -TZ