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    • ESS VT2-625 supercharged E92 M3 with claimed 570 wheel horsepower at 7.5 psi beaten by heads/cam/intake/exhaust Camaro SS with 520 wheel horsepower

      Very surprising race here with an ESS VT2-625 supercharged M3 taken down by an all motor LS3 Camaro SS. On paper, this race should easily go the M3's way considering it is claimed to have 570 wheel horsepower at 7.5 psi and also being the significantly lighter car. 570 wheel with a dual clutch transmission is good for 130 MPH trap speeds which a 520 wheel Camaro SS won't match. More power, less weight, dual clutch trans, the M3 should win rather easily. So what gives?

      The Camaro SS with the LS3 naturally aspirated V8 has modified heads, a cam, intake, and exhaust said to be good for around 520 wheel horsepower.


      BimmerBoost has no explanation other than the M3 likely not making the power claimed (it's easier to race on a dyno than in the real world) and possibly not having the right pulley either. Recently a BimmerBoost forum member stated they had a different pulley shipped with their ESS kit than they should have so it's possible this M3 owner isn't making the horsepower or boost they thought they were. The M3 is also said to be a DCT so how a dual clutch car making more power, shifting faster, and with less weight can lose is beyond reason unless the Camaro has more going on than he is letting on (nitrous).

      This article was originally published in forum thread: ***VIDEO*** BMW E92 M3 (ESS VT-625) vs All-Motor Camaro SS (Mr. TORQ) [HD] started by AWD75 View original post
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      1. AWD75's Avatar
        AWD75 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TZ04XJR Click here to enlarge
        His maro has always been a freak out on the street.. His old setup was no joke from the vids I've seen. Check out the M5 and M6 vids on his youtube.

        @AWD75 I wish we had run back on your old Hennessey setup. My M is still down though, been 4 months Click here to enlarge Should be ready very shortly.. I'm sure we can still have a good time out on the hwy.Click here to enlarge

        I'm always up around your way.. I should have run you in my loaner car Click here to enlarge
        Thanks! Cool guys like you are always welcome! Click here to enlarge Even though I dont have my hennessey setup, I will still make a pull with you. No problem. Just let me know when you are here so that I can show the car to you or make a pull or two. Click here to enlarge
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Andrew@activeautowerke Click here to enlarge
        Since when do 625 kits make 570whp?
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
        Not to cause more problems, but has any1 challenged if whether or not it's an actually ESS 625 kit??


        Regardless, can't get over how beautiful that matte blue wrap is on the M3 Click here to enlarge
        The engine bay of the M3 is in the vid, but since its dark and all the ESS kits looks the same, its hard to tell. But it is...

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        @nismo370 , you and your car are apparantly slow, i dont know why you run your mouth, you dont have a car to back it up with, never did, never will.

        @Mr.Squeeze , im still waiting on video, but from what i heard, it was a clean yanking everytime except when he started in the wrong gear, and easily pulled.

        and just to be clear, you all act like there is some amazing recipe for my M to get faster. dude has more boost an d an intercooler, WHOAAAAA BUDDY!! no way i can add that.

        to recap, Camaro is fast, faster than I thought. would LOVE to get a run in on him.
        Nismo370 has lost or would lose to Every BMW i own or owned, has never gone faster than, currently tried to and ended up losing his motor.
        squeeze has a very potent TT 370, capable of running with high HP M3's, but not beating, as of yet.
        Ultimate has a tq monster sitting on a high horse that will be tough to beat, but not impossible
        Sledgehammer has a car that rivals superscars and is really the benchmark performance car that any of us would be suprised to beat.
        I currently have a bargain basement supercharger kit, on an ebay built M3, and easily take a WIN if anyone above is caught slipping on their game.

        HP and boost increases are being researched as we speak in case you dont pay attention

        may god have mercy on your souls, because I will not

        @AWD75 im in nj, your car, or one like it local?
        Sorry, I am not local to you and dont know any camaro that has the same setup or #'s. But it shouldnt be hard to find I believe Click here to enlarge


        Also I wonder what does M3POST and GTBOARD guys would say about this video? Any oppinions? Click here to enlarge
      1. AWD75's Avatar
        AWD75 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Andrew@activeautowerke Click here to enlarge
        Since when do 625 kits make 570whp?
        Is it too low or too high? I though it was putting down right #'s with exhaust. Click here to enlarge

        570WHP is what the owner told me...
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by AWD75 Click here to enlarge
        Also I wonder what does M3POST and GTBOARD guys would say about this video? Any oppinions?
        damn, i cant find any local, tons of cars, but none modded.. you troll any forums, maybe set it up?

        LOL!! POST IT ON M3P AND GTBOARD! Id love it! you think i cause drama? those guys wil flip the F out! Click here to enlarge
      1. sr20seb's Avatar
        sr20seb -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ultimateendz Click here to enlarge
        horsepower sells cars, torque wins races
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ultimateendz Click here to enlarge
        it is what it is....but its "documented" so there Click here to enlarge
        I'm in here for the Torque vs. Horsepower debate!!!!! DING DING DING!!!!!

        I'm a drop a little mix of some buzzing bees and hornets on you my man:



        Oh snap, and since you like quotes!!!!

        "You can't have horsepower without torque, but you can have torque with no horsepower......it's called a dump truck"
      1. AWD75's Avatar
        AWD75 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        damn, i cant find any local, tons of cars, but none modded.. you troll any forums, maybe set it up?

        LOL!! POST IT ON M3P AND GTBOARD! Id love it! you think i cause drama? those guys wil flip the F out! Click here to enlarge
        I dont like to open up a new account on other forums just to post one vid. Maybe later tho if I manage to get more bimmer vids... But still it would be very fun to watch their reactions Click here to enlarge . Do you have an account on those forums?
      1. TZ04XJR's Avatar
        TZ04XJR -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by AWD75 Click here to enlarge
        I dont like to open up a new account on other forums just to post one vid. Maybe later tho if I manage to get more bimmer vids... But still it would be very fun to watch their reactions Click here to enlarge . Do you have an account on those forums?
        If LM doesn't want to post it on GTBoard for you I can.. Honestly the M3 section doesn't get too much traffic. M5 & M6 owners seem to be the majority of users. The E39 M5 section typically has as many active members as the E60 and E63 M5/6 combined.. Lol. I honestly most people would see it in the E60 area.. Click here to enlarge
      1. nismo370's Avatar
        nismo370 -
        LM im gonna pound you into the ground wait till i get this vette and boost it, your finished toast! = )
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by nismo370 Click here to enlarge
        LM im gonna pound you into the ground wait till i get this vette and boost it, your finished toast! = )
        run along child, grown ups are talking here
      1. inlineS54B32's Avatar
        inlineS54B32 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by sr20seb Click here to enlarge
        I'm in here for the Torque vs. Horsepower debate!!!!! DING DING DING!!!!!

        I'm a drop a little mix of some buzzing bees and hornets on you my man:

        Oh snap, and since you like quotes!!!!

        "You can't have horsepower without torque, but you can have torque with no horsepower......it's called a dump truck"
        ^ This. Click here to enlarge
      1. inlineS54B32's Avatar
        inlineS54B32 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        if you graph the dyno's in different ways, the spikes ta the end will show on the dyno, ive seen it on my dyno's as well. in "shiv" terms its part of the hidden dyno HP Click here to enlarge
        lol, yeah I can see it now... I highly doubt that would amount to anything on the street even if it was actual power - looks like it occurs for like .001 seconds.

        I wonder if it's just the RPM pickup reading wrong (high?) from the fuel/spark cut from redline?
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by inlineS54B32 Click here to enlarge
        lol, yeah I can see it now... I highly doubt that would amount to anything on the street even if it was actual power - looks like it occurs for like .001 seconds.

        I wonder if it's just the RPM pickup reading wrong (high?) from the fuel/spark cut from redline?
        no, im re-reading some information now. ill see if i can C+P it over here
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        edit- n/m, wrong info
      1. nismo370's Avatar
        nismo370 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        run along child, grown ups are talking here
        Get them $ bills up son son lmao.
      1. Sledgehammer's Avatar
        Sledgehammer -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by nismo370 Click here to enlarge
        Get them $ bills up son son lmao.
        You gotta calm down, how can you be excited when you got no car yet... Cop something at least and then go HAM
      1. nismo370's Avatar
        nismo370 -
        Becuz i can do a lot if i want jus relaxing and besides i like messin with LM lol
      1. MisterEm's Avatar
        MisterEm -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by nismo370 Click here to enlarge
        Becuz i can do a lot if i want jus relaxing and besides i like messin with LM lol
        why bump the thread? You contributed absolutely nothing in the "STOCK 350Z" thread that will never end and here you are muddying up another thread with your lols and becuz's. Since you don't even have a car, whats the deal anymore?

        Squeeze has a car, and communicates intelligently. You on the other hand...lack either quality.
      1. nismo370's Avatar
        nismo370 -
        Ahh shut up ya cry baby... Anyway....
      1. MisterEm's Avatar
        MisterEm -
        How's that altima treating you?
      1. benzy89's Avatar
        benzy89 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MisterEm Click here to enlarge
        You contributed absolutely nothing in the "STOCK 350Z" thread that will never end and here you are muddying up another thread with your lols and becuz's. Since you don't even have a car, whats the deal anymore?

        Squeeze has a car, and communicates intelligently. You on the other hand...lack either quality.
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by nismo370 Click here to enlarge
        Ahh shut up ya cry baby... Anyway....
        For nismo...

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      1. nismo370's Avatar
        nismo370 -
        Yeah thanks = ) appreciate it. Its great lovin my MPGs.