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    • Trouble in paradise? Vishnu/FFtec N54 335ii Single Turbo kits experiencing issues as a BimmerBoost member runs 12.5@121 with misfires and having to short shift

      BimmerBoost would like to thank member GeorgiaTech335Coupe for his openness and honesty regarding his Vishnu/FFTEC single turbo setup. Recently, this member took his single turbo upgraded 6-speed manual 335i to the PBIR (Palm Beach International Raceway) dragstrip in Florida to do some testing. His best run was a 12.50@121.6 alongside a 12.8@117. Yes, these times are quite a ways away from the 10.8@131 glory pass from Vishnu demonstrating the kits capability.


      This is in no way the fault of GeorgiaTech335Coupe who experienced misfires on his car and had to short shift at 6300 rpm in order to avoid them. Now, Vishnu has basically portrayed this kit as perfect and ready for sale with nobody having any issues. The reason BimmerBoost is bringing this issue to the attention of the community is for potential buyers to understand what they are getting into.


      There is absolutely nothing wrong with having issues when modifying a car to this level and BimmerBoost is confident Vishnu will resolve them. There is something wrong with pretending nothing is wrong. A few cars with the single turbo kits have gone up for sale and apparently a total of three people, that are willing to open their mouths, are having misfire issues with these kits.

      These issues will no doubt get resolved but potential buyers and current customers needs to be aware of the process, effort, and that progress is being made. Pretending nothing is wrong and collecting money simply is the wrong way to go about this and once again (it's becoming a trend) BimmerBoost is the only site bringing these issues to the attention of the community.

      For the record, a member by the name of @tmo335tt says he has a hardware solution for the misfires that he will likely share with Vishnu (hopefully not for free). Interesting that it isn't Vishnu but the community solving this.

      Thanks again to @GeorgiaTech335Coupe for sharing his details, good or bad, as we all learn thanks to honesty and openness. There is more to tuning than just collecting money.

      This article was originally published in forum thread: Vishnu Single Turbo at PBIR - 12.50@121.6 having to shift all gears at 6300rpm started by Sticky View original post
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      1. CaptainInsano's Avatar
        CaptainInsano -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rudypoochris Click here to enlarge
        The cost to get this car to 10s is ridiculous. It makes more sense to just get a base model Vette if that's hat people are aiming for. The limitation is the platform itself and the small displacement. If you want 10s on pump gas you are going to have big lag and it won't be a "street" car anymore. Never mind all the cash you need for LSD, suspension, clutch, axles (like really, why are they so damn weak), driveshaft, fuel pumpS, tunes, turbos, piping, intercooler, etc. I agree there will be daily drivers in the 10s. I wouldn't call them street cars though personally.
        Go buy a Civic...
      1. Q4P's Avatar
        Q4P -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sigma 3 Click here to enlarge
        If I recall.. you said the same thing on the other form... just sayin
        Very nice of you to notice... I havent been on the post for over a year now.
      1. Q4P's Avatar
        Q4P -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BuraQ Click here to enlarge
        I disagree with that sentence. Again this is opinion and it will be noted for later
        Just to point out, full street car means different things to different people... An Fbo 335i is a full street car to me. You really can't go out and change diffs, build trannies, run gallons of meth, completely shift the power curve, drive on drag radials and still be considered a full street car.
      1. rudypoochris's Avatar
        rudypoochris -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by CaptainInsano Click here to enlarge
        Go buy a Civic...
        I don't get it? Are you saying I should have to make all those compromises?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rudypoochris Click here to enlarge
        The cost to get this car to 10s is ridiculous.
        Not for the M3 Click here to enlarge
      1. nafoo's Avatar
        nafoo -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Not for the M3 Click here to enlarge
        You will end up spending way more to get an M3 into the 10s. Won't your car be the first M3 in the 10s when it is finished?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by nafoo Click here to enlarge
        You will end up spending way more to get an M3 into the 10s. Won't your car be the first M3 in the 10s when it is finished?
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      1. nafoo's Avatar
        nafoo -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
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        Opps sorry. I'm guessing something else happened pushing the project back again? =(
      1. amclint's Avatar
        amclint -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by nafoo Click here to enlarge
        Opps sorry. I'm guessing something else happened pushing the project back again? =(
        There was an article on here recently about an M3 in the 10s....maybe two M3s, can't remember.
      1. nafoo's Avatar
        nafoo -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by amclint Click here to enlarge
        There was an article on here recently about an M3 in the 10s....maybe two M3s, can't remember.
        Oh, damn...missed those. Well, you can be the first in the 9s, right? Click here to enlarge
      1. import36's Avatar
        import36 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by tmo335tt Click here to enlarge
        LOL....pos rep if i could.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by nafoo Click here to enlarge
        Oh, damn...missed those. Well, you can be the first in the 9s, right? Click here to enlarge
        Yes, two m3's, but let's keep this on topic. Point being the M3's cost / result looks better at the moment and 10's, mid 10's, are easier.
      1. tmo335tt's Avatar
        tmo335tt -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Yes, two m3's, but let's keep this on topic. Point being the M3's cost / result looks better at the moment and 10's, mid 10's, are easier.
        If you live your life a 1/4 mile at a time.





        Its obvious that the M3 in this case jumped and was chased down and if they kept going beyond the cone, the M3 would have been looking at tail lights.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by tmo335tt Click here to enlarge
        If you live your life a 1/4 mile at a time.


        http://youtu.be/TkNfB2IQkXc


        Its obvious that the M3 in this case jumped and was chased down and if they kept going beyond the cone, the M3 would have been looking at tail lights.
        Don't waste my time with ESS-VT2 600 junk and videos where they start at different speeds. And let's just keep the thread on topic.
      1. Terry@BMS's Avatar
        Terry@BMS -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by tmo335tt Click here to enlarge
        Its obvious that the M3 in this case jumped and was chased down and if they kept going beyond the cone, the M3 would have been looking at tail lights.
        Adam's car is basically 100% stock full weight with around 575whp, compared to Shiv's "race car" with 800 (?) whp. I was really surprised it took Shiv that much time to make up the ground. A 200whp+ advantage in a lighter car using NLS to boot should make more of a difference up to 160mph IMHO.

        PS. In terms of "potential" the universal standard is normally engine displacement. So all else being equal the car with larger motor has more potential. But if the goal is simply a low 11 second car the N54 that comes preequipped with boost is the easier and less expensive route. If it's a race to 9s, I would not bet against a supercharged or turbocharged M3.
      1. Q4P's Avatar
        Q4P -
        I will be thoroughly impressed if someone smokes a FBO, tune and headers Z06 or an Alpha 9 GTR... Using an M3 vs 335i comparo in drag racing is like the special olympics in a way.
      1. tmo335tt's Avatar
        tmo335tt -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Don't waste my time with ESS-VT2 600 junk and videos where they start at different speeds. And let's just keep the thread on topic.
        10-4

        The 2,000 WHP Ford GT that was at the event sure as hell didn't make the fastest passes of the day and if the GT raced this M3 it probably would have looked very similar to this vid. Traction at the airstrip was crap and you can see smoke coming from the tires on the 335 when he starts at the first cone. More power usually has and adverse affect on traction, so your right M3's rock!
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by tmo335tt Click here to enlarge
        10-4

        The 2,000 WHP Ford GT that was at the event sure as hell didn't make the fastest passes of the day and if the GT raced this M3 it probably would have looked very similar to this vid. Traction at the airstrip was crap and you can see smoke coming from the tires on the 335 when he starts at the first cone. More power usually has and adverse affect on traction, so your right M3's rock!
        Seriously you want to do this?

        You have 2 m3's in the 10's, 1 N54 with a single turbo, first E9x in the 10's was an M3, first e9x to break 130 traps (and 140 traps as well no doubt) was an M3, and the M3 seems to make much more efficient use of its power running quicker ET's with less power than even the OMG so super badass (just on paper) single turbo N54 kits.

        You better believe the M3 will be the first to the 9's as well. It isn't a comparison, you have no argument, stick to the topic. Maybe talk about that fix so you don't get embarrassed by forced induction M3's.
      1. Q4P's Avatar
        Q4P -
        Lol... a liter extra of displacement, 2 extra cylinders and a much quicker tranny. Now, what is it that we r surprised at? One is also an M car if I may point out... pound for pound the 335i is a clear winner and was never even meant to b a track car but a sport luxury dd.
      1. rader1's Avatar
        rader1 -
        Next thing you know there's going to be a MT vs DCT debate...