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    • A peak behind the scene of BMW Forum politics - BimmerPost targets ModBargains

      The BMW forum game is honestly pretty twisted. Full of back room deals with vendors struggling for dominance of one another attempting to get every last dollar from every last user. Some may say this is business but on some websites this is how they extort money. Pay enough to get preferential treatment and your competition will find their posts are deleted, fans silenced, censorship is employed, and those who speak out are banned. This is exactly what ModBargains is experiencing.

      ModBargains was forced off of BimmerPost due to underhanded tactics and came to BimmerBoost looking for an open and fair atmosphere. This website is known by its users and vendors alike as the place that does not play BimmerPost's censorship and banning games favoring certain vendors. To put it mildly, you can buy yourself a favorable position on BimmerPost whereas here we expect vendors to stand on their own two feet. So if a user has something to say, and that something may be bad, we favor the vendor making things right with their customer. This certainly doesn't help the bottom line but respect isn't something you can buy. It's these dirty politics that are one of the main reasons that BimmerBoost and the GermanBoost network exist and are thriving.

      So what happened? ModBargains was on the wrong end of these politics and now any positive reviews of them are being systematically deleted to make it appear as if nobody has anything postiive to say about them. Additionally, if you are on BimmerPost and wish to say something positive about ModBargains, you will be banned and the name will come up censored. The right to free speech or even at the very least for members of the BMW community to voice their pleasure with a vendor are not things allowed if it isn't a vendor who is paying off the right person the right amount in the right manner.

      This was sent to BimmerBoost from a disgruntled BimmerPost member who attempted to say he was happy with ModBargains:


      "You didn't hear this from me... I don't want bimmerpost knowing I am telling you about it, but I read your thread about shift s3ctor sponsorship and thought you would be interested in hearing this.

      I guess they are now censoring their own forum users. Anytime somebody posts the word "modbargains" it appears as "***********" instead. Popular threads mentioning ModBargains are censored and then closed or completely deleted. example: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=769987

      They also are deleting positive customer review threads in the feedback section and keeping the negative review threads on their forum. There are over 100 positive customer reviews in the last 3 months that have been deleted.

      There's an old saying... "Give a person enough rope and they just might hang themselves." That might apply here... censoring the internet like this is simply not acceptable... especially a public forum. I think it's only a matter of time before people notice. A lot of the customers don't know their positive reviews have been deleted. Many of them haven't realized their posts are being censored and closed...[/quote]

      Here is another thread where you notice a user listing his mods and ModBargains is censored out so the user isn't allowed to say where he got his mods he is happy with: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=618868"



      So how about that? Hundreds of positive reviews are being deleted yet a handful of negative reviews, which obviously ModBargains won't even be allowed to address, are allowed to stay in order to sway public perception and the users are being treated like blind sheep. Is this a power ploy by another vendor in SoCal who goes head to head with ModBargains? You be the judge. Regardless, it's happening and it's sickening.

      BimmerBoost does not like having to link to its competition but there are times you put pride aside and do what is right. In this case, letting people know how business is conducted "over there" versus here and how it affects you, the enthusiast.

      BimmerBoost isn't afraid of BimmerPost and isn't afraid to make these issues known. We are the voice of the BMW community and this kind of thing won't be silenced. BimmerBoost thanks its vendors who want to help change the currently corrupt climate that exists in the BMW forum world. And if we have to do it ourselves then so be it.

      This article was originally published in forum thread: A peak behind the scenes of BMW Forum politics - BimmerPost targets ModBargains started by Sticky View original post
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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rclark Click here to enlarge
        Yikes. Unfortunately, it's a business... Click here to enlarge
        A dirty one. You can have business ethics.
      1. rooringhusky's Avatar
        rooringhusky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Or running our own events. The more I go to events, etc., the more I see how I would rather do things myself. This Shift Sector garbage reinforced that.
        Would love to have some events in Cali....I always get jealous on bimmerboost of the tristate guys...wish we had a group of guys in socal that were as down!
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rooringhusky Click here to enlarge
        Would love to have some events in Cali....I always get jealous on bimmerboost of the tristate guys...wish we had a group of guys in socal that were as down!
        I really don't understand how we have as man tri-state performance people as we do, something in the water over there.
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I really don't understand how we have as man tri-state performance people as we do, something in the water over there.
        :cough: :cough:
      1. bobS's Avatar
        bobS -
        I was wondering why mod bargains was censored when I listed the mods on my car..... Thats crazy.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        :cough: :cough:
        Ok ok take a bow.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bobS Click here to enlarge
        I was wondering why mod bargains was censored when I listed the mods on my car..... Thats crazy.
        Now you know, just messed up to go that length eh?
      1. bobS's Avatar
        bobS -
        Yup.... pretty absurd
      1. LZH's Avatar
        LZH -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I'm working on it Terry, honestly I am. It isn't simple and I also don't have their budget. So not only do they have a head start and more money to work with, they also censor me. It's an uphill fight but our N54 readership has decent mass. Yes, not as much, but it also can't be ignored at the moment. In all honesty we are the number #2 site for modern BMW's right now same thing with Benz.

        I appreciate your support it definitely makes things easier. I'll start throwing some serious money at this after New Year's.
        I've told you I'm willing to give you a nice chunk of change buddy Click here to enlarge
      1. LZH's Avatar
        LZH -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Or running our own events. The more I go to events, etc., the more I see how I would rather do things myself. This Shift Sector garbage reinforced that.
        So lets set something up and do like a weekend out at Willow - get both tracks and party Sat night in Palmdale Click here to enlarge
        Winter is great out there, cars make tons of power and I know everyone there really well. $#@!, I'll sponsor a day myself Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LZH Click here to enlarge
        I've told you I'm willing to give you a nice chunk of change buddy Click here to enlarge
        I know, I don't even need as much as you proposed. I actually just finished meeting with an investor, we should set a time for a meeting.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LZH Click here to enlarge
        So lets set something up and do like a weekend out at Willow - get both tracks and party Sat night in Palmdale Click here to enlarge
        Winter is great out there, cars make tons of power and I know everyone there really well. $#@!, I'll sponsor a day myself Click here to enlarge
        That sounds great! I'm down. Let's aim for January as my car will be ready...
      1. G0TB00ST?'s Avatar
        G0TB00ST? -
        Boost>post

        Post has always been sketchy...
      1. IHCrusader's Avatar
        IHCrusader -
        I have only nice things to say about ModBargains, especially dealing with Jurrian who helped me source my AP Racing BBK, Fabspeed catted section 1, Supersprint resonated X-pipe, and Supersprint Race exhaust for my E46 M3.

        Through ModBargains I was able to get parts at a time when most other vendors were telling me that there may be 1-2 month wait times.
      1. mkodama's Avatar
        mkodama -
        Car forums have an odd way of generating lots of drama, lol. Interesting read.
      1. fast4door's Avatar
        fast4door -
        what goes around comes around..what bimmerpost is doing over there is pretty pathetic, thats why I left a long time ago
      1. Njz's Avatar
        Njz -
        Only reason I ever go there is to check out the marketplace. The rest of the threads there are either full of fanboy crap or idiots who don't know how to use the search function.
      1. dmitriyo's Avatar
        dmitriyo -
        This is my favorite part about the forum upon registration.
        An individual is entitled to one single account. Multiple accounts are strictly prohibited and by registering under multiple accounts you agree to all liabilities related to violation of this stipulatiom.
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      1. dmitriyo's Avatar
        dmitriyo -
        Now they can do what they want - obviously if you want to be a part of that forum, you play by their rules. But its another thing when one cannot even get their username unblocked (mine is partially blocked as I was talking about some products that were in direct competition to Procede. purely factual and informative, not meant for marketing). The admins and forum administration never responds to anything.
      1. dmitriyo's Avatar
        dmitriyo -
        Reading through the terms of use and service, Bimmerpost and its affiliates cannot be held responsible for anything on the site, yet one has to agree to those terms upon subscription. One cannot use the site without subscription. The part that vendors should know - is that they too are not protected in any way, and cannot hold bimmerpost resposible for anything that the site does or its users do.