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    • BMW switching to the Z4 GTE for the American Le Mans Series (ALMS), will race in 2013 - Does BMW now need to sell a Z4 M?

      There was speculation that BMW would no longer race in ALMS after this season. BMW finished in second place to Corvette Racing failing to defend their championship for the second straight year. Speculation on a move began when BMW started to publicly complain and lobby against new technical regulations they said were slowing their cars down to the point where they were no longer competitive. So BMW will ditch the M3 GT's for Z4 GTE race cars.


      Now this is a bit of a cop-out on BMW's part. Rather than race an M3 they will race a car that does not have a few years of racing in the American Le Mans series under its belt meaning it won't be subject to the exact same regulations that slowed down the M3 attempting to make it on par with the rest of the field. Additionally, BMW has no M version of the Z4 with a V8 for sale. So, BMW will once again be bending the rules in their favor.

      Porsche, Chevrolet, Dodge, and Ferrari all race cars based on production vehicles they sell. BMW is twisting things to favor their racing program similar to what got them in trouble with the M3 GTR in 2001 when it used a V8 in the M3. If BMW sold a Z4 M with a V8 this would not be nearly as big of an issue. Kind of funny BMW recognizes the importance of Z4 as a racing platform with a V8 yet refuses to sell something similar to the public unlike the manufacturers they will be racing against.

      BMW Motorsport director Jens Marquardt stated, “This change in model shows that we are focusing fully on the BMW Z4 as an all-encompassing GT car. The BMW Z4 GT3 has been very successful on the GT3 scene in recent years, and has proven its ability to win races. I am confident this car will also play a major role as a GTE car in the ALMS.”

      Sorry Jens, but you seem full of it as you don't actually sell what you are trying to sell to the public with your statement. How are you focused fully on the Z4 when there is no M variant? The previous two generations had one and now you skipped it. Seems like you have lost focus to BimmerBoost. The audacity to pull a similar stunt as in 2001 which at least was justified under the rules at the time as you did sell an M3 GTR in limited quantities is BMW arrogance at its finest.

      Race the Z4 GTE and destroy the competition with it as we all know you can. But stop playing around and give us a Z4 M based on it already. Otherwise, you only make one thing, the Ultimate Marketing Machine.
      This article was originally published in forum thread: BMW switching to the Z4 GTE for the American Le Mans Series (ALMS), will race in 2013 - Does BMW now need to sell a Z4 M? started by Sticky View original post
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      1. bobS's Avatar
        bobS -
        I think if BMW made a s65 version of the z4, it would crush the current m3. The n54 powered z4 is quick in stock form, very quick.

        Just imagine how great/fast the z4 s65 car would be....

        Maybe that's why BMW never put the s65 in the z4.
      1. deemo319's Avatar
        deemo319 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Limited edition $80k Z4M coupe with the S65B44... ok, you got my money.
        Hey Sticky,

        What is poppin? The car would be stupid sick. Go to YouTube and listen to an E92 M3 GTS at full chat, close your eyes and imagine you are in a 444-hp S65B44 powered E89 M Roadster with a trick LSD with hardware, widebody aerodynamics, trick suspension that M went to Ohlins or H&R and collaborated on, carbon fiber front & rear strut brace, a sweet 6-speed manual in your hand and looking out over the powerdome in the long hood with small heat extractors on the flanks of it. It would sound like a storm coming down the street. OK, open your eyes.

        Let's send the NA S65 out in a blaze of glory. They don't have to spend a lot of development capital, they already have done the engineering for the E89 Z4 GT3. Offer a Track Package with an fixed roof, and a real brake kit with front & rear calipers as options with three color choices. Build 2,500 number examples and then stand back and watch it sell. Build 1,250 M Roadsters and 1,250 Track Package cars and a base price of $79,995 and limited options. People would be mad they could not get one, but worse than the E82 1M because it would be drop dead gorgeous and have the S65B44 engine under the hood.

        I have been at this point for about 3 years now. They could do this!
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by IHCrusader Click here to enlarge
        Could we petition for a Z4M Coupe with the current S65B40 motor just like people did before to bring the E36 M3 to the US at a time BMW didn't think there would be a market for one in the US?
        If the car already existed in Europe we'd have a good chance but this would be a petition to build a car that does not exist. Slim chances...
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by deemo319 Click here to enlarge
        Hey Sticky,

        What is poppin? The car would be stupid sick. Go to YouTube and listen to an E92 M3 GTS at full chat, close your eyes and imagine you are in a 444-hp S65B44 powered E89 M Roadster with a trick LSD with hardware, widebody aerodynamics, trick suspension that M went to Ohlins or H&R and collaborated on, carbon fiber front & rear strut brace, a sweet 6-speed manual in your hand and looking out over the powerdome in the long hood with small heat extractors on the flanks of it. It would sound like a storm coming down the street. OK, open your eyes.

        Let's send the NA S65 out in a blaze of glory. They don't have to spend a lot of development capital, they already have done the engineering for the E89 Z4 GT3. Offer a Track Package with an fixed roof, and a real brake kit with front & rear calipers as options with three color choices. Build 2,500 number examples and then stand back and watch it sell. Build 1,250 M Roadsters and 1,250 Track Package cars and a base price of $79,995 and limited options. People would be mad they could not get one, but worse than the E82 1M because it would be drop dead gorgeous and have the S65B44 engine under the hood.

        I have been at this point for about 3 years now. They could do this!
        Everything you wrote makes complete sense to me and I'm with you.
      1. gary88's Avatar
        gary88 -
        BMW really was getting screwed with those regulations though, they were getting killed in straightline speed.

        A roadgoing Z4 with a V8 would be so insane.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by gary88 Click here to enlarge
        BMW really was getting screwed with those regulations though, they were getting killed in straightline speed.
        Why won't these regulations affect the Z4?
      1. SSO95's Avatar
        SSO95 -
        Makes me miss my brothers E36 Z3 M coupe, even though it was pretty ugly, it sounded nice and handled pretty well from what I remember