• Cadillac CTS-V with an intake versus a Eurocharged tuned W204 C63 AMG from a roll

      In stock from the Cadillac CTS-V with its supercharged 6.2 liter LSA V8 is stronger than the standard C63 AMG (one without the P31 package). The difference on a dynojet is about ~100 wheel horsepower. The C63 is slightly lighter but is significantly detuned in stock form to protect the egos of the owners of the other 63 AMG models. With a tune however the C63 wakes up considerably as the video shows with the two cars basically neck and neck.


      The C63 even with a tune still has less power than the CTS-V but the Eurocharged tune makes the cars quite even. The CTS-V has a passenger and a intake. The C63 is running just a tune. Impressive how the C63 keeps up with more powerful competition even though it does not have a supercharger like the CTS does.

      This article was originally published in forum thread: CTS V versus C63 started by Sledgehammer View original post
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      1. RnmEvo9's Avatar
        RnmEvo9 -
        I would love to have either car as my next car. Bad ass rides!
      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Yep.

        so how is that any difference?

        ZR1 vs Z06 is a perfect example

        ZR1 is 3400lbs FI
        Z06 is 3100lbs NA

        basically your V vs C63 right there

        ZR1 wins stock for stock every time

        couple mods and a tune and the Z06 is running against the ZR1

        power to weight....doesnt matter if its FI or not....and we all know what a stock bottomend V can do with more boost....or do i need to show you again?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ultimateendz Click here to enlarge
        so how is that any difference?

        ZR1 vs Z06 is a perfect example

        ZR1 is 3400lbs FI
        Z06 is 3100lbs NA

        basically your V vs C63 right there

        ZR1 wins stock for stock every time

        couple mods and a tune and the Z06 is running against the ZR1

        power to weight....doesnt matter if its FI or not....and we all know what a stock bottomend V can do with more boost....or do i need to show you again?
        It isn't different I'm not putting any car down you are taking things personally and getting angry to an absurd level for no reason.

        Power to weight of course matters. The difference here simply being similar sized V8's but one is blow and the other is not. Of course the CTS-V has more room to play with blown versus the M156 NA but that isn't the point. It's impressive for the M156 to do what it does WITHOUT the blower.
      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Too bad nothing you can do about it and I'll say whatever I please whether it's here or to your face. Sorry, not intimidated and you wouldn't be the first person to threaten me over a keyboard. Like I said, grow the $#@! up and stop letting letting a little red thumb go up your ass.

        And here you don't call any shots so I'm only telling you once. Back on topic.
        my last response about this dictating thing is i promise you wont say squat to me in my face....i P.R.O.M.I.S.E. ill get back on topic for sake of the thread...
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ultimateendz Click here to enlarge
        my last response about this dictating thing is i promise you wont say squat to me in my face....i P.R.O.M.I.S.E. ill get back on topic for sake of the thread...
        I've heard this lot's of times and once again I'll say whatever I feel like saying to whomever I feel like saying and there is NOTHING you can or will do about it. That's a promise you can count on. Good luck with that.

        Whether you want to get back on topic or not is irrelevant I'll make you get back on topic or you won't be posting in the thread. So yep, that's your last post on the matter and I strongly suggest an anger management class.
      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Whatever, blown 6.2 liter. Just makes the C63 look more impressive IMO.
        so what is this about then?....i could slap a SC on a 6.2 L and give it a SUPER conservative tune so its not making 60% of the power it could and run it against an FRS.....if the FRS hangs is it supposed to be because my car was inferior?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ultimateendz Click here to enlarge
        so what is this about then?....i could slap a SC on a 6.2 L and give it a SUPER conservative tune so its not making 60% of the power it could and run it against an FRS.....if the FRS hangs is it supposed to be because my car was inferior?
        Nobody said any car was inferior what was said was the M156 and C63 are impressive. You immediately take it as negative against the CTS-V. You need to look in the mirror and set a negative tone from the beginning in this thread.
      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Nobody said any car was inferior what was said was the M156 and C63 are impressive. You immediately take it as negative against the CTS-V. You need to look in the mirror and set a negative tone from the beginning in this thread.
        not talking about the V....your saying for a 6.2L SC car to only hang with a NA V8 is just eh...
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ultimateendz Click here to enlarge
        not talking about the V....your saying for a 6.2L SC car to only hang with a NA V8 is just eh...
        The mod list is stated, the video is what it is. Nobody needs to justify CTS-V modifications. I'm saying the C63 is impressive for hanging not anything the other way around. Maybe you need to read the article again:

        Impressive how the C63 keeps up with more powerful competition even though it does not have a supercharger like the CTS does.
      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        whatever man
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ultimateendz Click here to enlarge
        whatever man
        I think you just need to chill out nobody is talking down on your car. If the car wasn't strong it wouldn't be impressive for the C63 to do what it did in the vid in comparison to it.
      1. nismo370's Avatar
        nismo370 -
        Little boys and there egos lol settle down settle down lol.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by nismo370 Click here to enlarge
        Little boys and there egos lol settle down settle down lol.
        Agreed, from all sides.
      1. nismo370's Avatar
        nismo370 -
        Yes both of yall lol not just ultimate.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by nismo370 Click here to enlarge
        Yes both of yall lol not just ultimate.
        Hence why I said from all sides.
      1. nismo370's Avatar
        nismo370 -
        Sticky i would love to meet you, see what little shrimp sits behind the keyboard typing all this stuff lmao, sorry i had too lol.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by nismo370 Click here to enlarge
        Sticky i would love to meet you, see what little shrimp sits behind the keyboard typing all this stuff lmao, sorry i had too lol.
        There's something wrong with you guys on the East Coast LOL.
      1. Sledgehammer's Avatar
        Sledgehammer -
        As with many threads here this went south and the common denominator is @Sticky. @ultimateendz made a comment that a visit to the East Coast would be "humbling". Meaning that M3 is gonna get walked by multiple cars if it ever shows it headlights around here. Sticky you take that as a threat of some sort threat and accuse him of E ThuggeryClick here to enlarge

        From their Sticky proceeds to do just what he accused Ultimate of doing and proceeds to get his E Thug on. He rants on how he says what he wants, when he wants. How nobody can do anything about. How he will ban him from the thread if he goes off topic and then proceeds to indirectly drag the rest of us "Guys on the East Coast" into it with post #38. Sticky you took this the wrong way, humbling your car & your ego with your WWE talk was the clear intent of the comment. Now I know you wont apologize nor see the comment for what it was. You'll have some interesting retort and/or banning of me from a thread. Bottom line is you got this wrong but thats more telling to me.

        But consider the following as food for thought...

        1. You have repeatedly said you were coming to the East Coast with the Unicorn. We're just waiting for you to man up and come over here in 2013. You said it, so do it... Anything else you say is WWE
        2. You drag threads off topic consistently and talk more $#@! than a little bit. Yet you're the first to get mad when folks see through your BS. That leads to these little temper tantrums and all kinds of comments that amuse us to no end.
        3. You're scared, why else would you react to a simple comment that way. Thats the $#@! in you creeping out again, pull your skirt down and man up. Nobody here is gonna hurt youClick here to enlarge other than your ego of course.

        Ultimate stop taking this $#@! personal everything is not a dig against you or your car conspiracy. Moreover stop taking the bait with Sticky he's predictable and will say or do whatever gets a rise out of you and people in general. Its mask to cover his own issues and you're smart enough to know this. Bigger still he will NEVER show up here to run any of us despite his own statements. Learn to ignore the ignorance and all the WWE $#@! flying off his keyboard...
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        ^ Cool story bro, I have things to do other than baby sit you kids today though.

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      1. oldgixxer's Avatar
        oldgixxer -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        It's impressive for the M156 to do what it does WITHOUT the blower.
        Comparing a relatively high compression 4v engine to a relatively low compression 2v blow engine is a bit silly no? One isnt better or more impressive then the other,they were both designed for completely different drivetrains;one FI the other NA.