• Supercharged manual E92 M3 races a tuned Nissan GT-R and pulls it easily from a roll, fishy result?

      Well something is definitely up with this race. The video description seems to strongly favor the M3 but it is incorrect in certain areas making for low credibility of the mods. The M3 is clearly supercharged and a 6-speed manual car, that much is true. But the GT-R is said to have Stillen downpipes which Stillen does not actually make... oops. Secondly, the claim is 20 psi with the tune on 91 octane which no intelligent GT-R owner or tuner is going to be recommending or doing partially due to fuel system limitations.



      The strength of the M3 is the topend. A supercharged M3 pulling a GT-R up top is not surprising. It is likely this car has a tune and certain mods just not what is listed in the video. Regardless, the supercharged M3 pulls the GT-R rather quickly and easily. If this race went longer, it would only get worse for the GT-R.

      This article was originally published in forum thread: VF 620 M3 Vs 2013 GTR Black Edition- Roll started by LostMarine View original post
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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by longboarder Click here to enlarge
        By the way I only made a max of 509 RWHP SAE with the ESS VT2 Supercharger on stock exhaust / 91 octane on the EAS dyno. Right on the money from what ESS advertises.
        But you're making pretty high numbers now at 5 psi?

        I won't start on what ESS advertises, they used to claim 600 whp on pump gas through the stock exhaust.
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        longboarder -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        But you're making pretty high numbers now at 5 psi?

        I won't start on what ESS advertises, they used to claim 600 whp on pump gas through the stock exhaust.
        I never heard that...but then again I only started my research a few months ago (June 2012). I spoke with Roman quite a few times and he led me to expect that the VT2 600 kit made 600 crank on 93 octane and 590 crank on 91 octane, which he said was equivalent to 510 wheel...pretty much exactly what I made.
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        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by longboarder Click here to enlarge
        I spoke with Roman quite a few times and he led me to expect that the VT2 600 kit made 600 crank on 93 octane and 590 crank on 91 octane, which he said was equivalent to 510 wheel...pretty much exactly what I made.
        Definitely that is what it should make.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by longboarder Click here to enlarge
        I never heard that...but then again I only started my research a few months ago (June 2012).
        I sure did:

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Asbjorn@ESS Click here to enlarge
        Hello guys, we have been working secretly for almost a year now on a new kit design for a new BMW model. I will leave it up to you to figure out what model it is.. Click here to enlarge

        Tests were performed on a 100% stock car on pump fuel only. The kit is 100% bolt-on.


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        longboarder -
        Yeah I see what you are saying. Maybe it's possible if you tweak the tuning for one glory run in perfect conditions but that is certainly not what you would sell to the public since that would result in catastrophic damage.

        In fact, I hear that Joe's car is not running well at the moment on 91 octane @ 7.8 psi...something about numerous CEL's. I'm not trying to spread any rumors, but this is what others have told me. I hope he gets it all figured out before Shift-Sector.
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        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by longboarder Click here to enlarge
        Yeah I see what you are saying. Maybe it's possible if you tweak the tuning for one glory run in perfect conditions but that is certainly not what you would sell to the public since that would result in catastrophic damage.
        Nobody is making a 600 whp glory run on pump gas through the stock exhaust, it just isn't possible.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by longboarder Click here to enlarge
        In fact, I hear that Joe's car is not running well at the moment on 91 octane @ 7.8 psi...something about numerous CEL's. I'm not trying to spread any rumors, but this is what others have told me. I hope he gets it all figured out before Shift-Sector.
        We'll see, hope his stuff gets figured out.

        Regardless, best thing to do is not even worry too much about dyno's and get real world results. I just hate dyno games and those that play them personally.