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    • DCT Build Part XII - Build complete, pictures of final assembly, transmission cooler, and Viton seals

      Well, this has been a rather lengthy road to completion but the transmission is basically complete. The car was dropped off by SSP last month to Gintani who should have the motor in by the end of this week. The problem is SSP mounted their trans cooler in the location the heat exchanger for the supercharger needs to go so SSP will need to come to Gintani's facility to re-run their lines as the cooler will need to go in a different location. What took so long for this update? Well, we have been waiting, and waiting, and waiting for SSP to send us details on the Viton seals that required 3 redesigns but never received the information on why these seals are superior to the stock units.

      So, I decided to do my own research and here is what I came up with. These are the stock BMW seals used in the DCT. What is wrong with them exactly? We do not know other than they apparently are not up to the task:










      Here are the Viton seals which delayed the project by 3 months. Viton is a synthetic rubber used for seals, O-rings, things of that sort. Viton was likely used as it is less susceptible to decay and already used in BMW applications such as in VANOS. Viton has much higher temperature and chemical resistance characteristics than the stock seals. Here is what they look like:










      This is the DCT cooler that was mounted by SSP up front. This needs to be moved somewhere else as the supercharger heat exchanger will need to go there. This means SSP will need to come out and run their lines again checking all their fluids and so forth before tuning can take place:














      This is the final assembly. So, the transmission is built but it took about a year longer than estimated. I believe I was as patient as possible and hopefully this will all be wrapped up in December with a built motor, built transmission, a YSI, and a ton of horsepower.





































      This article was originally published in forum thread: M3 DCT Build Journal - World's First BMW DCT Build started by Sticky View original post
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      1. AlexQuattro's Avatar
        AlexQuattro -
        Probably not the best idea posting his address on the forum. Just saying.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SSPKris Click here to enlarge
        Joseph I can be in Cali towards the end of the month. You and can sit down and speak. I always think things can get worked out in a more friendly manner face to face. This keyboard warrior crap is for high schoolers. Dont you think? I can stop by if you like. I remember your address being CA... Am I correct?
        That's it stop by. Tell me when I'll make sure to have my attorney and gintani in attendance they arent happy with you either for some strange reason. Maybe you can try to tell them more about their motor build? Right now all you can do is fix your piece of $#@! transmission work that's it don't waste my time with your passive aggressive nonsense I'm not impressed. Notice I have the same address because I don't have to move states due to people suing me.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Alex325i Click here to enlarge
        Probably not the best idea posting his address on the forum. Just saying.
        Bro it's off a private road no worries.
      1. AlexQuattro's Avatar
        AlexQuattro -
        Was just being concerned.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by NikB316 Click here to enlarge
        Well this is getting interesting.

        Bottom line though is that this overall build won't be complete anytime soon. How about that other company SPE Engineering or something the guy on the other forum about Kris mentioned?

        Well I guess that JRCart fella was right.
        Everything is done. We all should have known SSP would be the problem as always. New trans is the solution no biggie 4k who cares. What is lame is this piece of trash won't stand behind his work or fix it but once again not letting him off the hook.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Alex325i Click here to enlarge
        Was just being concerned.
        Thanks man I think he just makes himself look bad. If he wants to trespass by the mansion and see who he's playing with by all means.
      1. SSPKris's Avatar
        SSPKris -
        Joseph, I offered to meet and settle something with you. But you seem to keep wanting to go on and on. You are a 29 year old that still lives at home. That house is your parent's house.

        I am willing to work something out with you, but you make the final move. You can keep looking like an idiot on here saying all of your nonsense. But my offer stands.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SSPKris Click here to enlarge
        Joseph, I offered to meet and settle something with you. But you seem to keep wanting to go on and on. You are a 29 year old that still lives at home. That house is your parent's house.

        I am willing to work something out with you, but you make the final move. You can keep looking like an idiot on here saying all of your nonsense. But my offer stands.
        I was living in a beautiful malibu condo when you started this build it's taken so long I have two new degrees since then. You don't remember? I'm a 29 year old who is about to teach you a lesson about who you are in comparison to me. Who do you think you're playing with some poor kid in sioux falls? Your options are take your POS trans back and pay the cost for a working trans since you ruined mine or the lawyers can sort it out. I don't mind either way and prefer the latter right now. Let's do this.
      1. SSPKris's Avatar
        SSPKris -
        It is kinda comical you would have money for attorneys (Plural), when you couldn't even pay for your motor with Gintani. I am a simple guy, you need only send me one. I must of really hit a nerve (truth) if your sending the entire firm.
      1. ZooyorQ's Avatar
        ZooyorQ -
        If you're ballin' like you say you are than your most valuable asset should be time and frankly it sounds like you're about to waste a bunch of it. I'd just move on. That's what I did.
      1. Commanderwiggin's Avatar
        Commanderwiggin -
        A true baller would have already sent someone to break some fingers, arms, legs, etc...just sayin.

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      1. NikB316's Avatar
        NikB316 -
        Zooy,
        Sometimes things need to be taken care of out of principle IMO.

        It looks like SSP really screwed him over. Explains why they went out of business, etc. Sticky should have avoided them from the beginning. Even with Drew's car they sold a product that ultimately didn't work. I was actually looking into it myself. How can you guys sell something that wasn't tested and found to be working?

        I feel bad for Sticky. It sounds like Gintani took way too long in their end but at least is getting things done. SSP told Sticky they were dropping out. Not cool that far into the project unless there were really payment issues or things on Sticky's end which caused delays.

        Just my .02. I really hope the car gets running soon. Would be really rough to see this all done and not making significantly more power than say a VT3.
      1. SSPKris's Avatar
        SSPKris -
        Do you really think anyone believes it took Alex 3+ years to build a motor. I think not. I have seen Alex's shop first hand, and know this not to be true. I believe he is a straight up business guy. The audience can fill in the details. You have two stories, Josephs lies, and more of Josephs lies.
      1. SSPKris's Avatar
        SSPKris -
        A true baller would take it upon himself to take care of business. A true baller would not needs his parents money to carry out all of his deeds. A true baller would not be living at home with his mommy and daddy. Just sayin...
      1. Commanderwiggin's Avatar
        Commanderwiggin -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SSPKris Click here to enlarge
        Do you really think anyone believes it took Alex 3+ years to build a motor. I think not. I have seen Alex's shop first hand, and know this not to be true. I believe he is a straight up business guy. The audience can fill in the details. You have two stories, Josephs lies, and more of Josephs lies.
        This isn't about his engine...it's about the transmission which never worked for Drew and isn't working for a person who appears to have been used by your company to market a product that doesn't work. Regardless of Joe and his lies...you have been advertising for quite a long time on your website...a product that does not work.

        Please advise us how your clutch kit works for the E92 M3?...or lack of working rather...
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SSPKris Click here to enlarge
        It is kinda comical you would have money for attorneys (Plural), when you couldn't even pay for your motor with Gintani. I am a simple guy, you need only send me one. I must of really hit a nerve (truth) if your sending the entire firm.
        Haha ya it's super comical how it was paid for IN 2010 but you have trouble reading and with basic comprehension. I posted evidence, what do you have? You're super honorable word? I'm not the only person who states your word is worthless. Since then I have spent tens of thousands with Gintani and they haven't had any problems doing whatever I ask, weird eh? Weird no company has ever had any problems doing my work, eh? Pulling things out of your ass is easier, eh? Gintani will respond, no prob and the link is there where I sold an sc I paid for over three years ago in full with cash but hey whatever you want to say. Keep posting insults rather than fixing your junk work which doesn't work. How many m3's is it now ditching your clutches?

        Your company is junk, your customer service is junk, your work is junk, your word is junk, and you are junk.
      1. SSPKris's Avatar
        SSPKris -
        I dont think I have insulted you in anyway. Please show me where I have insulted you?
        From some one that is supposed to be such a baller, and a well educated person, you sure have crap for punctuation.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Commanderwiggin Click here to enlarge
        This isn't about his engine...it's about the transmission which never worked for Drew and isn't working for a person who appears to have been used by your company to market a product that doesn't work. Regardless of Joe and his lies...you have been advertising for quite a long time on your website...a product that does not work.

        Please advise us how your clutch kit works for the E92 M3?...or lack of working rather...
        Still trying to figure out my supposed 'lies'? He got free adverising, a dozen front page articles, and my car AND trans just like he wanted. I'm stuck with the broken trans he didn't even bother to test or check to see if it worked... and instead of making it right he wants to try to spin this into a motor issue?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SSPKris Click here to enlarge
        I dont think I have insulted you in anyway. Please show me where I have insulted you?
        From some one that is supposed to be such a baller, and a well educated person, you sure have crap for punctuation.
        Ya talk about that when im on my cell enjoying a day at the beach when you can't spell 'sore' genius.
      1. Commanderwiggin's Avatar
        Commanderwiggin -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Still trying to figure out my supposed 'lies'? He got free adverising, a dozen front page articles, amd my car AND trans just like he wanted. I'm stuck with the broken trans he didnt even bother to test or check to see if it worked... and instead of making it right he wants to try to spin this into a motor issue?
        I was using his reference to "Lies" as a statement not as truth...I really don't care if you're lying or not. What I want to know is why he has been selling a product that does not work.